There are some cars out there that you are right, an owner does not need to explain/justify. The Lexus is definitely not one of those.

 

Wow, I leave on a long trip and I come back to "contoversy" about the IS-F.

Actually, I'm happy that two owners checked in to give their view. I have no doubt that the fast Lex is going to last 200k miles with no trouble. Wasn't aware of the changes for 2010. I wish I could get 27 mpg out of my V stock.....I can only do that with a tune, CAI, and lower pulley (only around a grand....thank G_d for old American iron....cheap to mod), voiding the drivetrain warranty in the process.

As far as the C63.....drove one.....

 

You totally miss the point. I did not post to justify or explain my ownership or how good the IS-F. There is no need for this.

I posted to help out the OP and the discussion as whole. I am done with this. Thanks everbody and have a great day!!

 

Your cousin should seriously think about a pontiac G8 GXP! Its the holden commodore SS, in australia. ITs real cheap now, pontiac died, and it can hang with these two cars, all day. If you put your wallet into it, it'll brutalize them both, with its 6.0L corvette engine. Cheap, fun, and easy to mod, bad ass sport sedan.

http://www.insideline.com/mitsubishi...ac-g8-gxp.html

 

The only caveat with regard to the G8 GXP is the OP's consideration of depreciation.

 

I hope GM brings the G8 GXP back in some other form.

If not...CTS-V. M5s shudder at the sight of them.

 

It will depreciate now, but since its discontinued, and its a rare vehicle, it might actually appreciate, by the time the OP's cousin looks to sell it.

 

doubtful if it's daily driven.

Maybe if it's garaged and cared for over the next few years.

 

No controversy, just a bunch of spoiled car lovers (me included) picking nits. It's what the interweb was designed for.

As far as the C63, I couldn't find one within 500 miles to test drive when I was car shopping so I had to scratch it off the list. Just as well, I reckon.

 

Funny as I sit here browsing the web regarding M3s and IS-Fs I come across this thread.

I'm looking to purchase one in the next few months and I think the IS-F is winning right now.

Sorry for the old bump.

 

If you have any questions about the M3 let me know. Been driving one for over 4 years now.

Just curious, how come you leaning towards the IS-F?

 

I love both but if i had to choose, ill most prolly go with the F. For the simple fact that i dont like coupes. Sedan FTW !! Four doors for more whores

 

They make a M3 Sedan.

 

Where is the Whiskers option?

 

Mainly reliability. If i end up going for the M3, I'll keep my MDX as a DD; however, in that case I may jump into a 2003+ Viper.

 

M3 has been fairly reliable and im not trying to be biased either, magazine have stated its the most reliable BMW currently.

Then again I guess thats not saying much.

But yea, get something less practical if you have a daily driver. Viper would be cool!

 

How man miles are on your e90? warranty?

 

Warranty ended in August, I have 42k miles currently.

 

Thinking of an extended one or are you comfortable with it?

 

Decided against extended warranty.

Not worried about it though. Only thing that might go wrong is the idle control valve but its not that common. Also change the oil every 5-7k miles to prevent excessive rod bearing wear. Otherwise the complaints on the forums are very few.

 

If it was my choice to make, I would go with M3 since it comes with a manual transmission.

 

I voted IS-F because then there is no dealing with the reputation of being an M3 owner.

 

Well just for a vote for the F in the reliability department I just rolled over 104k in my 2008 CPO which had 24k on it when I bought it 3 years and 1 month ago. I have only replaced the subwoofer and the water pump under warranty. The water pump which is a known issue on the 06-08 IS line. Also had a HID bulb go out and my battery die after 4 years of life. Other than that I have only done one set of brake pads cause I couldn't stand the dust of the factory ones and probably replacing rotors soon since it is still on the original set. Most of those are highway miles though.

I do someday want to own a BMW and experience one as I have loved driving my buddies 335is but at this time in my life I drive to much and wanted to have complete reliability for now.

 

^ That's great to know. I can't deny the top notch reliability of Lexus.

Lexus brand just means #1 reliability in my book all time.

 

I considered an IS-F at one point, but I was a bit turned off my the interior and I didn't enjoy driving it as much as the M3. It's a hot rod for sure and you can't go wrong with either choice. Test drive both and see what you like more.

 

i was in the same boat. m3 fan boy..drove both cars back to back. As you can see with my username, ISF i chose

 

ISF feels more luxury, nice interior, feels like a rocket/actual 400hp car . m3 felt slower than my old 350z daily driving. that changes after 6 rpm though but still not worth it.

 

my F if anyone asks... holds its own to all cars mention in this thread..besides ctsv in terms of power, lol

 

I will go with M3 to avoid looking like this idiot ^

 

??

 

Yeah, that seemed harsh. I agree...
I love both cars, and can equally not reasonably afford either at this point.

 

Well, your credibility is just above Golf R.: after that comment.

 

Looks like a clean IS-F to me.

 

I riked it.

 

Sorry if I went overboard on that, but I thought this post was a complete joke to me.

 

Trunk wing looks great

 

You lowered yet?

 

Maybe in 2023

 

Many think the way he does. The M3 is not a torque monster so it does not "feel" fast unless you learn how to drive it. Its the same way with the S2000.

Not easy to learn how to drive it from a simple test drive. I actually hated the car when i first drove it.

 

thanks fellas for the last replies.


M3 was the car i originally wanted to get. i guess i just expected more because the e46 m3 had 333hp, really nice interior for its years, ..so the m3 with 100hp, a newer model, i was just let down. its a beautiful car, the reliability rate on the s65 engine is quite good actually. also their transmission. i still want one now that the aftermarket has literally blew out of no where for that car.

lexus just has a lot of amenities that the bmw doesn't even offer. rear view camera, touch screen navi, step up gauges , led lights everywhere, front led lights, ...just a lot more going on. running a 12.8 stock didn't hurt either and getting over 400whp to the wheels with exhaust and headers with no tuning(can't tune toyotas) was a plus in my book as well since the 5.0 engine is not maxed out like the s65 engine.

Isf engine was built by yamaha, dry oil sump system, oil coolers for motor and tranny...just a good reliable engine. I beat on it everytime i drive it. there are really no known problems on this car. also Lexus does good will repairs for free for F owners if you are out of warranty. Really cheap to maintain this car.