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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 01:22 AM
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Exclamation Autocar: Ford Mondeo > BMW...

AutoCar magazine's recent cover story comparing the BMW 3-Series, VW Passat and Ford Mondeo says the unthinkable...The Ford simply drives BETTER than the BMW 3-Series. Interesting...anyhoo, :ibtvenomandspewtofollow:...

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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 01:39 AM
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haha, BMW is lost to Infiniti in a comparo, and now this?!
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 09:21 AM
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The "King is Dead !!" part deux ??

Must be the bang for the buck angle again, eh ?? My last car was a ford, and while I did love it, when I got to 136K miles I sold it for $700. A 7 year old bmw is going to retain more value then a 7 year old ford, so that kinda kills the buzz and the "bang for the buck" angle...

Oh, the mondeo isn't even available here is it ??

I'm not even going to go into the FWD vs. RWD thang...
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 09:42 AM
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Well, the Ford Mondeo certainly looks good IMO.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 11:06 AM
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In the end Ford still losses in NA.....because they are too stupid to bring the Mondeo here.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 11:12 AM
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Every other car here is a Focus or Mondeo.....Except in my neighborhood, which is filled with luxury cars and SUVs....
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
In the end Ford still losses in NA.....because they are too stupid to bring the Mondeo here.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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For the price of the BMW the mondeo comes with all teh goodies, laser guided cruise control, etc. Maybe bmw will need to start making those standard?
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 11:32 AM
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it would be nice if the douchebags at ford would offer some of their good cars to their HOME market.

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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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too bad Ford doesn't bring the Mondeo to the states
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Python2121
For the price of the BMW the mondeo comes with all teh goodies, laser guided cruise control, etc. Maybe bmw will need to start making those standard?
not just BMW, ahem Lexus gets really expensive with all the options.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
not just BMW, ahem Lexus gets really expensive with all the options.
very true
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 12:36 PM
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its a shame the Mondeo isnt available in the US
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 02:23 AM
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 02:38 AM
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Well, that's cuz Bond drove it. That must be it.





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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 08:41 AM
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They all did the same bullshit back in 1995 with the Contour. A Ford is Ford. And a BMW is a BMW.

Brits are pricks when evaluating German cars.
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 11:36 AM
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Ford Europe is totally different than Ford North America. Remember the 1st gen Ford Focus? It also won many praises for great combination of handling, steering feel, and ride comfort, etc. If it weren't for its so-so reliability, it would have done even better. Unfortunately, they screwed up the 2nd gen Focus...but then..it's hard to improve on something thats already so good, just like how BMW screwed up the new 5 series.

Anyways, the Mondeo has competed with cars like Alfa Romeo 156, Peugeot 406, etc in Europe. Just like the Focus, it's regarded as one of the most fun to drive FWD sedans there, probably slightly behind the Alfa. Just keep in mind that most journalists there prefer the handling/steering feel of Alfa Romeo than BMW. The only reason why the Mondeo (or Contour in NA) didnt sell well is because of its compact size. It's too small to compete directly with Accord, Camry, and Ford's own Taurus.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 02:43 PM
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I might be wrong, but aren't they brining the Mondeo to the US. They're just renaming it the Taurus.

p.s. I had a Mondeo as a rental when I was in Israel. It did pretty good. I was impressed.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan
I might be wrong, but aren't they brining the Mondeo to the US. They're just renaming it the Taurus.

p.s. I had a Mondeo as a rental when I was in Israel. It did pretty good. I was impressed.
They brought a watered down version to the States as the Ford Contour and the Mercury Mystique, but they did not do very well here. The later versions of the Mondeo, which were dramatically improved, apparently, never made it to the US.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 06:14 PM
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The thing to remember is many of the UK/Euro Fords would NOT sell here despite how good they are, due to price. Many people think we get the crap Escort and long for the excellent UK/Euro version, but reality is it would be too procey for the perception of Ford.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 06:52 PM
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most people on this side of the Earth seem to prefer size rather than driving dynamics (car enthusiasts excluded).
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
In the end Ford still losses in NA.....because they are too stupid to bring the Mondeo here.
And i hope they dont. By bringing it over here, they will just dumb it up and ruin the european version to make it compatible with our fat asses.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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i think thats still bad that Ford doesn't sell this in it's own home country. the mondeo looks a lot better than the taurus, ford 500, and it would look good to sell alongside the Fusion.

it would be like if BMW sold the X5 here in the USA, but didn't sell it in Germany.
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