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Old 05-29-2006, 07:12 PM
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Went and looked at a Katana 750 the other day, its a 99 in good shape with 10k on it, gonna get a really good deal $ wise, but i am wondering if any of you can tell me what this means;started it and not realizing it is not fuel injected i didnt fuck with the choke at first, and then when the guy adjusted the choke and started it it ran real rough so he started taching it up, and then it ran beautifully... could this mean it needs a tune up, or something bigger wrong with it? thanks for any help, need to know asap.
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Went and looked at a Katana 750 the other day, its a 99 in good shape with 10k on it, gonna get a really good deal $ wise, but i am wondering if any of you can tell me what this means;started it and not realizing it is not fuel injected i didnt fuck with the choke at first, and then when the guy adjusted the choke and started it it ran real rough so he started taching it up, and then it ran beautifully... could this mean it needs a tune up, or something bigger wrong with it? thanks for any help, need to know asap.
it was probably cold out?
I had a 90 GL it had 6 carbs on it(yes that's right and it's not a type)it had manual choke. so as long as it ran well after it warmed up.
my new 05 Goldwing has auto. choke. so as soon as it fires and about 2-3 seconds after that it stays on and after it runs fine. I wouldn't worry about it too much.
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your first bike?
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don't get it, start with ninja 250/500 or suzuki gs500f
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Originally Posted by Teh Jatt
don't get it, start with ninja 250/500 or suzuki gs500f

good looks on the opinion, i was just wondering about the technical question though
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look for katan 600's for a first bike not a 750. and for your question the bike was just cold and needed to warm up. my dads FJ1200 does that because it has the manual choke( which for the first time today i rode around the block on it since he was teaching me how to ride, alot of bike for sure and i'm looking for a katana 600) now my dads new M109R boulevard is all fuel injected and is a bit rough when cold but smooths right out after it's warm. before i get flamed about riding his FJ he has alot of riding experiance and me riding it was just to teach me, but he knows it's to much for a first bike.
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good looks on the opinion, i was just wondering about the technical question though
have you got taken MSF course, and have your license?
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Katana's run like that when they're warm too. Spare yourself the embarrassment of having to tell your grandkids you once owned a Katana. On the bright side, it's discontinued for 07. There is a god.
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Originally Posted by Water-S
it was probably cold out?
I had a 90 GL it had 6 carbs on it(yes that's right and it's not a type)it had manual choke. so as long as it ran well after it warmed up.
my new 05 Goldwing has auto. choke. so as soon as it fires and about 2-3 seconds after that it stays on and after it runs fine. I wouldn't worry about it too much.
Hey Water...If your talking about a GL1500, they only had 2 carbs. 6-cylinder 2 carbs.
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Originally Posted by AS3.0CL
look for katan 600's for a first bike not a 750. and for your question the bike was just cold and needed to warm up. my dads FJ1200 does that because it has the manual choke( which for the first time today i rode around the block on it since he was teaching me how to ride, alot of bike for sure and i'm looking for a katana 600) now my dads new M109R boulevard is all fuel injected and is a bit rough when cold but smooths right out after it's warm. before i get flamed about riding his FJ he has alot of riding experiance and me riding it was just to teach me, but he knows it's to much for a first bike.
How does your dad like his M109R boulevard? That's a very interesting cruiser...w/ alot of power.
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anybody know how long does bike last, milage wise? with proper maintainence, and oil changes and other good stuff.
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^ just like the car...
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Originally Posted by swami
Hey Water...If your talking about a GL1500, they only had 2 carbs. 6-cylinder 2 carbs.
and the 05 is fuel injected with automatic choke.


GENERAL INFORMATION
Manufacturer Honda

Model Year 2005

Model Gold Wing® 1800 ABS

M.S.R.P. $19,699.00*

POWERTRAIN
Engine Liquid-cooled horizontally opposed six-cylinder; SOHC; two valves per cylinder

Displacement 1832 cc

Bore x Stroke 74.0 mm x 71.0 mm

Compression Ratio 9.8:1

Fuel System Programmed Fuel Injection (PGM-FI) with automatic choke

Fuel Capacity 6.6 gal.

DRIVETRAIN
Ignition Computer-controlled digital with three-dimensional mapping

Transmission 5-speed including overdrive, plus electric reverse

Final Drive Shaft

DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase 66.6 in.

Seat Height 29.1 in.

Dry Weight 799 lbs.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
How does your dad like his M109R boulevard? That's a very interesting cruiser...w/ alot of power.

He likes it alot. he actually just picked it up last weekend because of how hard they are to get. it does have alot of power with alot of get up. first day he got it, he dropped to 4th gear on the highway and opened it up and was at 110 in no time, he was surprised by how fast it got going. the bike is very sleek looking though and has that big rear tire. i'll upload some pics if i can get the digi working today.
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my boy has a very heavliy modded 97 gxxer750 (not efi) that thing chatters like no other. could be a blocked jet or something. Does he have any mods done to the fuel system? really need more info than what you gave.
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Originally Posted by mattzheng
anybody know how long does bike last, milage wise? with proper maintainence, and oil changes and other good stuff.
most bikes atleast sportbikes dont make it over 50k miles. by then there old or usally beat to death. 25k miles is alot for a bike. its nothing like a car. but like anything else if taken care of properly it will last for a long time.
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Looks like everyone already answered the technical question... but as for the logical question, since this is your first bike, don't get it.

Not only is there a possibility that it's not running right, but that's too much bike for a first bike. Take the MSF course, then get a Ninja 250/500 or Suzuki gs500f like Jatt mentioned. Not only are they safer first bikes, but since they're so popular as beginner bikes they hold their value well. After a year or two you'll be able to sell it for close to what you paid. Then you can upgrade to a bigger bike...


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most bikes atleast sportbikes dont make it over 50k miles. by then there old or usally beat to death. 25k miles is alot for a bike. its nothing like a car. but like anything else if taken care of properly it will last for a long time.
i thought it wouldnt last as long as cars... but damn, only 50k miles? thats such a crappy investment
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Originally Posted by AS3.0CL
He likes it alot. he actually just picked it up last weekend because of how hard they are to get. it does have alot of power with alot of get up. first day he got it, he dropped to 4th gear on the highway and opened it up and was at 110 in no time, he was surprised by how fast it got going. the bike is very sleek looking though and has that big rear tire. i'll upload some pics if i can get the digi working today.
Cool! Post the pics!
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pics are from a camera phone.....digi is broke....so this is the best i can do.




you can see the FJ1200 behind the M109R
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The Katuna!!! is a piece of junk if you ask me. How cold was it when you first started it? It could be the cold or it could be clogged jets.

It is an old bike. If he let it sit for a while with fuel in the tank with out fuel saver in it……it could have clogged up the jets.
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Originally Posted by AS3.0CL
pics are from a camera phone.....digi is broke....so this is the best i can do.




you can see the FJ1200 behind the M109R
Thanks....but how bout some pipe side pics?:wink:

Looks good!
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Originally Posted by 1killercls
and the 05 is fuel injected with automatic choke.


GENERAL INFORMATION
Manufacturer Honda

Model Year 2005

Model Gold Wing® 1800 ABS

M.S.R.P. $19,699.00*

POWERTRAIN
Engine Liquid-cooled horizontally opposed six-cylinder; SOHC; two valves per cylinder

Displacement 1832 cc

Bore x Stroke 74.0 mm x 71.0 mm

Compression Ratio 9.8:1

Fuel System Programmed Fuel Injection (PGM-FI) with automatic choke

Fuel Capacity 6.6 gal.

DRIVETRAIN
Ignition Computer-controlled digital with three-dimensional mapping

Transmission 5-speed including overdrive, plus electric reverse

Final Drive Shaft

DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase 66.6 in.

Seat Height 29.1 in.

Dry Weight 799 lbs.
Maybe his is custom made, like Lars' 7-speed M-B S600?

BTW how much power does a GoldWing have?
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Originally Posted by mattzheng
i thought it wouldnt last as long as cars... but damn, only 50k miles? thats such a crappy investment
well its worth it if you ask me. The enjoyment i get out of my bike is well worht the money that i spent on it along with the countless friends i have met and made along the way..
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Take the MSF course and just buy the damn thing. I've been riding street for 20 years this summer. My two cents is that you will outgrow a 250/500 in a matter of weeks to months then you will be looking for something larger.
A 750 is a nice size, just don't go out and buy a new liter bike, etc.

Get a good deal on the Katana, get some miles under you belt and love every minute of it! Ride safe!
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Thanks....but how bout some pipe side pics?:wink:

Looks good!

i'll get some mor epics prob this weekend. but the pipes look good . and hopefully i can get my digi working.
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Dude...A number of reasons not to get a Katana. 1. It's a heavy ass tank, regardless if it's a 600-750. It was designed in the eighties, handles like it was designed in the 70's. 2. Long, heavy, and underpowered make for a dangerous combination. 3. If you buy it you'll regret it...IMO I'd go with an older R6 or CBR600F4, there lighter, better handling, and faster. These bikes are much more noob friendly, and your less likely to want a new bike next year. Take it easy for awhile and in a couple of years you'll be trading for a 750 or 1000.
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Originally Posted by swami
Dude...A number of reasons not to get a Katana. 1. It's a heavy ass tank, regardless if it's a 600-750. It was designed in the eighties, handles like it was designed in the 70's. 2. Long, heavy, and underpowered make for a dangerous combination. 3. If you buy it you'll regret it...IMO I'd go with an older R6 or CBR600F4, there lighter, better handling, and faster. These bikes are much more noob friendly, and your less likely to want a new bike next year. Take it easy for awhile and in a couple of years you'll be trading for a 750 or 1000.
Not so sure about the trading part. My 600RR has more than enough power for anyone.. Like I have said countless times 99% of riders can not push their bike to the limit. I will some day get 1000 sure but when that day does come my 600rr will not leave me. it will then be my track/ race bike.. almost done building it to that stage now.. Just have got race plastic cause i still street it everyonce in a while. Just wondering im gunna try to do the Star suzuki school at road atlanta anyone else done that course?
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I wasn't suggesting he do that, only that most new riders want to. Just trying to keep a new rider from buying a relic and thinking this is as good as it gets. If I were buying a new bike, I'd get an current gen 600. They are extremely fast, and light, and an absolute blast to ride. A 3-4 year old F4I for a newb is the way to fly IMO. Read some articles on countersteering before you do anything.
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
Looks like everyone already answered the technical question... but as for the logical question, since this is your first bike, don't get it.

Not only is there a possibility that it's not running right, but that's too much bike for a first bike. Take the MSF course, then get a Ninja 250/500 or Suzuki gs500f like Jatt mentioned. Not only are they safer first bikes, but since they're so popular as beginner bikes they hold their value well. After a year or two you'll be able to sell it for close to what you paid. Then you can upgrade to a bigger bike...


I second that. It's an old bike and carburetted. Those things are cold blooded and expensive if the carbs needs to be cleaned & synched.
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Originally Posted by SpeedyV6
Maybe his is custom made, like Lars' 7-speed M-B S600?

BTW how much power does a GoldWing have?
the newer(like 01s and up) have 1800 cc
the older ones(like my old one i traded in) had 1500cc
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Originally Posted by Water-S
the newer(like 01s and up) have 1800 cc
the older ones(like my old one i traded in) had 1500cc
What kind of hp do they have?
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