It's that bad, huh?

Sorry Bob. You're quite the enthusiast and if Acura is losing you that's a really bad sign.

 

An extremely bad sign...
like, bad enough to not get one on his recommendation since I respect his knowledge and experience.

 

The ZF9 is an unmitigated piece of $hit. I'm sorry to say it, but it is. It's too bad, too, because I like everything else about the 2018 iteration of the TLX. Really. Interior is awesome, two screen system with smartphone integration is on point, power delivery is really good, SH-AWD is still awesome, handling is good, and I really like the way the A-Spec looks. However, that transmission completely ruins the driving experience because you have to live your life around the way it works, not the other way around.

Specific issue is that in turns, right more than left, the transmission refuses to shift, almost as if it's stuck. I can floor it, and there's no acceleration. I can reset by taking my foot off the accelerator, then pressing on it again. It's not dangerous, but it's annoying as hell.

If Acura could put the DCT from the RLX or the NC1 NSX in it, it would be really good. But they ended up with the ZF9, the rare fail for ZF.

Because others have the same issue I do, and there's no solution, I haven't taken my car to the dealer. My time is too valuable to waste on the issue, and a lease is temporary. Had I purchased, I would have traded it in already.

Acura hasn't lost me completely...I'm still loving the NC1, especially with the 2019 changes. They've lost me on the TLX, though.

 

 

Yikes @neuronbob ...I did not know it was like this for you.

 

I think help is on the way. I would imagine the next gen has a Honda tranny.

 

Like the 03 TL tranny?

 

I would assume either the 10 speed from other Honda models or the DCT from the 2.4L. I think either would probably work for the 2.0T.

 

I love the 8 speed in the Vulva. I wonder if they'd consider it.
I don't love all autos but in the Volvo I can pretty predictably get it to downshift and anticipate the turbo kicking in with just throttle modulation.

 

I have a friend who is a master Volvo mechanic. He has a lot of good things to say about the V60.

Volvo does a lot right, they just need to get their driving wheels straight.

 

I have little experience with it so far but it really does seem to be well put together.
I guess time will tell.

 

That's an Aisin transmission, and since Aisin is part of Toyota Group, I'm thinking Honda won't be using it.

 

Over what time period? I keep my cars well over ten years.

And how do you define "reliability". If my horn fails to work, that is hardly an issue. If my transmission goes, that is a different matter.

Worry less!

 

I guess I don't see your point. If CS goes back three years, you see those issues in the first three and continually over the following 7.

And CS is a measure of customer satisfaction. Every problem is frustrating if it means another visit to the dealership

 

Everyone is frustrated by different things though...
some people would have a higher tolerance and therefore a good impression even with little BS problems.

 

Small problems/build quality issues is probably emblematic of larger problems since it could reflect a lack of attention to detail.

 

 

but that's not brand specific...
all cars now are rolling computers with too many features...they have little issues no matter what...

 

 

Honda is responsible for their choices on that front. For example, the ZF9 sucks. Honda still put it in the TLX. That's on Honda.

When I buy a car, I don't buy all the parts. I buy the package which includes the car and all the reliability issues or lack thereof of the brand. I review actual data and surveys. Manufacturers do not get a pass for choosing a bad ZF transmission or developing a bad infotainment system or sourcing Takata airbags.

Unless, of course, you're @Saintor , whose head is made up of 94% lead, and justifies bad part choices on behalf of the manufacturer.

 

*alluded

 

 

 

ain't no way you caught that one word in that huge paragraph you did not go back and read!
i did have to look at it for a few moments to determine it was wrong though. LOL

 

 

you are still having issue with ZF9? i thought it was fixed... or "Improved"?

I know i hate the ZF9 in the Oddy EXL our company just leased... i think it behaves more like a CVT than an actual CVT. But i havent experienced any "issues"

 

I was. However, I recently figured out how to reset the ECU/TCU myself and am no longer having issues. Takes only 30 seconds and is easy to do in my driveway.

 

owning something makes me so horny!.
Love you too, breh.

 

 

Not really. Many cars are reliable during the warranty period. After that they start to fail. A quality car has a reliability record that goes beyond the warranty period.

 

By the way, Acura is a North American brand I take it. If not, what other markets are they sold in?

 

The world.
The parent company is one you've probably heard of...Honda.

 

Yes, most cars are reliable during their warranty period. Those that aren't, like say the most recent Acuras, tend to continue to get worse with age.

The crap ZF9 isn't going to fix itself. It will keep getting worse.

 

I get what he's saying by "North American company" but the "where it sold" statement is pretty myopic.

 

I get the impression he's fkn around

 

Another future Kraut-mobile owner...

 

Maybe he has the need for swede too?

 

 

That one is a 9-speed. My RDX has the 6-speed. Which one is the ZF9 in?

You know since automatics have been made since the 40s I think, you'd think they can get it right.