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Old 10-26-2018, 08:44 AM
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now you're starting to follow his train of thought, buddy.
to find a crook, you have to think like a crook.

also, his money's not on that though, man.
I would need a traumatic brain injury to think like Saintor.
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I’m starting to wonder what his money is actually on.
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probably a lease on a 2.0t
but he isn't going to admit that here now that he's dragged the poor 2.0t's name through the mud so vehemently.
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
probably a lease on a 2.0t
but he isn't going to admit that here now that he's dragged the poor 2.0t's name through the mud so vehemently.
Dude, every time I see a video with a Civic Type-R in it, I don't care what engine is under the hood. That car is nuts.
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Dude, every time I see a video with a Civic Type-R in it, I don't care what engine is under the hood. That car is nuts.
bUt iT's So uGlY
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i don't see it being ugly.
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i would maybe lease it with my money.
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
i don't see it being ugly.
It really isn't ugly at all.

It's fugly.
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Overdone, I can see.
I just don't think it's ugly.
I guess I have bad taste?
I sat in one and was pretty impressed with fit and finish
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J, are you 16 years old and were you recently introduced to car modding via pep boys? Asking for a friend.
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Well total thread derail, but since we are on the topic... I looked up fuel economy for the Golf R verse Type R. How does the Golf get identical consumption numbers, having a 2.0L turbo like the civic, yet powering all four wheels as opposed to only two?

Also, how does the STi get such worse mileage than both of those cars, having a bigger turbo engine and pushing less boost, and still connected to all four wheels, like the R?
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Golf R doesn't have a mechanical / symmetrical AWD system, I believe it's FWD biased until grip is lost - IIRC, I want to say it has Haldex differentials.

Paging SamDoe.
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It does have a haldex system. So the subie is full time AWD, where the Golf is only AWD under low traction scenarios? Hmmm the numbers seem to make sense if that is the case... and with how it can match the civic in terms of fuel economy.

though I feel like when I took an R for a test drive, I could feel the power going to the rear wheels through a corner, without the front actually slipping. At least I don’t think it was slipping. Stepped on it while halfway through a turn to see what would happen. Complete and utter control is what happened. Just point the wheel where you want to go and apply throttle. Everything beyond that was magic.

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I'm not 16...
but it does appeal to that 16 year old boy trapped inside!
wait...wut
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
It does have a haldex system. So the subie is full time AWD, where the Golf is only AWD under low traction scenarios? Hmmm the numbers seem to make sense if that is the case... and with how it can match the civic in terms of fuel economy.


Haldex is a beautiful thing ...

6MT Golf-Rs with the right tune / launch control MOVE OUT from a stop ... all you hear is a chirp and they're car lengths ahead of you.

Buddy of mine pulls consistent 1.7 60's on his street tires.
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I'm a fan of the Type R.


I don't mind how it looks. But, then again, I drive a Sea Cucumber, so, I guess I have questionable tastes.
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I love the type R. The looks are super weird but damn it's an amazing vehicle.

I just wish Honda had something exciting, affordable, and normal looking
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Well total thread derail, but since we are on the topic... I looked up fuel economy for the Golf R verse Type R. How does the Golf get identical consumption numbers, having a 2.0L turbo like the civic, yet powering all four wheels as opposed to only two?

Also, how does the STi get such worse mileage than both of those cars, having a bigger turbo engine and pushing less boost, and still connected to all four wheels, like the R?
Golf R doesn't always drive the rear axle like the Subaru does, it only does it on demand.

The STi gets much worse fuel economy because the engine is ancient, the car is heavy AF, and the drivetrain is the same as it was back in 2005.

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Golf R doesn't have a mechanical / symmetrical AWD system, I believe it's FWD biased until grip is lost - IIRC, I want to say it has Haldex differentials.

Paging SamDoe.
The Golf is not only FWD biased but it is straight up FWD unless there's a demand for traction from the rear wheels. That demand doesn't have to be from slip though, the haldex drive has a computer driven clutch that pushes power to the back. So if you floor it from a stop, the power will go to the rear before any traction is lost because the car knows you'll need the grip, same with high speed cornering and such it'll send power back to help rotate the car. If you put it into different drive modes, it'll change how aggressive it is in sending power back. Race mode will basically be AWD all the time and your fuel economy will suffer accordingly.

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Haldex is a beautiful thing ...

6MT Golf-Rs with the right tune / launch control MOVE OUT from a stop ... all you hear is a chirp and they're car lengths ahead of you.

Buddy of mine pulls consistent 1.7 60's on his street tires.
Yup. And the DSG ones are even faster. I don't think mine will even chirp the tires if using launch control.
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Originally Posted by kurtatx
i love the type r. The looks are super weird but damn it's an amazing vehicle.

I just wish honda had something exciting, affordable, and normal looking
s2000
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Definitely, but it's not there anymore. You know what I mean.
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Originally Posted by kurtatx
Definitely, but it's not there anymore. You know what I mean.
RLX. Used.


Duh.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
RLX. Used.


Duh.
I said normal looking
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Look at the where the Odyssey and Clarity ranks in terms of reliability. There was a time when the Honda/Acura name was up there, side by side, with Toyota/Lexus for well-built cars, but those days are no more.

I can only imagine the reactions of these buyers, thinking they're buying traditional Honda reliability.
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I don't think some ranking on some website will all of a sudden make the person feel like their car was a steaming pile of shit. If they are the minority that have the problems then they probably already feel that way. Plus, we are dealing with a ranking of the exceptions here, not the rule.
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Look at the where the Odyssey and Clarity ranks in terms of reliability. There was a time when the Honda/Acura name was up there, side by side, with Toyota/Lexus for well-built cars, but those days are no more.

I can only imagine the reactions of these buyers, thinking they're buying traditional Honda reliability.
honestly, don't worry about that too much. Lexus/Toyota are very conservative with the driving technologies. Yeah, they're high reliability, but Lexus JUST added the 2.0T to the IS almost 10 years after the Germans
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
I don't think some ranking on some website will all of a sudden make the person feel like their car was a steaming pile of shit. If they are the minority that have the problems then they probably already feel that way. Plus, we are dealing with a ranking of the exceptions here, not the rule.
This, too. Also, remember reliability is model-specific. You don't buy a car brand, you buy one car.
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I think it also matters what you deem unreliable.
Like me, for instance...if the car gets me where I'm going but has minor annoyances and little things break here and there, my general perception isn't that the car sucks.
Not everyone would feel that way.
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Originally Posted by kurtatx
I said normal looking
Well, that's cuz it's an exotic.

Not only is it faster than a McLaren P1 GTR once you upgrade the tires, but it is even more breath-taking than a Ferrari 250 GTO. The RLX, if personified, is like the Alessandra Ambrosio of cars...
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I’ve seen on AZ a number of times where people bought a brand new Acura because of its perceived reliability... only to be quite shocked with what they are experiencing, in terms of a lack of reliability.

It’s not everyone. We know these issues only impact a certain percentage of vehicles. But it’s still there.

And none of this is new. Acura’s reliability has been slipping over the last decade or so. It’s rare to actually be left stranded. But it still sucks having to do warranty claims. It’s a waste of your day. The more it happens, the more annoying it becomes.
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Well, that's cuz it's an exotic.

Not only is it faster than a McLaren P1 GTR once you upgrade the tires, but it is even more breath-taking than a Ferrari 250 GTO. The RLX, if personified, is like the Alessandra Ambrosio of cars...


we F'd up buying Owdis
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No you didn’t. Because there aren’t that many RLX-SHs even available in the first place! Super duper über rare sedan that is hard to find!
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No you didn’t. Because there aren’t that many RLX-SHs even available in the first place!
Everyone keeps buying them.
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Who’s everyone?
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No you didn’t. Because there aren’t that many RLX-SHs even available in the first place! Super duper über rare sedan that is hard to find!


They make Apple iPhone launch-day lineups look like nothing. RLX-SH inventory goes faster than me fapping in a robot store in Japan...it's insanity. The line-up almost circles the globe. Almost. I had no choice to settle for my vapor-S5 because the Acura dealership laughed at me when I asked about the RLX and hung up...this is after I was on hold for THREE WEEKS straight. That is how busy their lines were. Can you believe it?!?!?




All for the RLX.
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Who’s everyone?
You're not cool enough.

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You're not cool enough.
I bought one and then rented it out to a family of four. It's the Duplex on four wheels
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Definitely, but it's not there anymore. You know what I mean.
Sure it is, I see at least one every single day.

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I don't think some ranking on some website will all of a sudden make the person feel like their car was a steaming pile of shit. If they are the minority that have the problems then they probably already feel that way. Plus, we are dealing with a ranking of the exceptions here, not the rule.
And this, my friends, is why Land Rover is still in business.
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All cars suck.

thats why i take the Subway
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
And this, my friends, is why Land Rover is still in business.
No sir, there are NO people with trouble free Land Rovers!

J loves em...I talked to my buddy that's a purchaser for carmax...he's like bro, I've had a corporate loaner twice and both times they left me stranded. That's a no.


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