Acura less reliable than Audi?
10-25-2018, 09:32 AM
#1
Acura less reliable than Audi?
These are the latest Consumer Reports brand rankings...
1. Lexus
2. Toyota
3. Mazda
4. Subaru
5. Kia
6. Infiniti
7. Audi
8. BMW
9. Mini
10. Hyundai
11. Porsche
12. Genesis
13. Acura
14. Nissan
15. Honda
16. Volkswagen
17. Mercedes-Benz
18. Ford
19. Buick
20. Lincoln
21. Dodge
22. Jeep
23. Chevrolet
24. Chrysler
25. GMC
26. Ram
27. Tesla
28. Cadillac
29. Volvo
Is Acura hurting from the transmission issues or are there other issues? I have a 2019 RDX and have had a couple of blips with the Information System but that hardly makes the car less reliable than an Audi...
1. Lexus
2. Toyota
3. Mazda
4. Subaru
5. Kia
6. Infiniti
7. Audi
8. BMW
9. Mini
10. Hyundai
11. Porsche
12. Genesis
13. Acura
14. Nissan
15. Honda
16. Volkswagen
17. Mercedes-Benz
18. Ford
19. Buick
20. Lincoln
21. Dodge
22. Jeep
23. Chevrolet
24. Chrysler
25. GMC
26. Ram
27. Tesla
28. Cadillac
29. Volvo
Is Acura hurting from the transmission issues or are there other issues? I have a 2019 RDX and have had a couple of blips with the Information System but that hardly makes the car less reliable than an Audi...
10-25-2018, 09:36 AM
#2
Team Owner
Acura is full of issues these days. They are NOT reliable like they used to be. They haven’t been reliable in a long time. But car stigmas die hard and those who spent 40k on an SUV recently are likely not going to be the first ones to admit their purchase has flaws.
I’ve seen on the boards here a number of people who said thy bought an RDX because they perceive Acuras and Hondas to be reliable. If only they knew how to open a web browser and spend 6 minutes searching
Seriously. Acura sucks these days when it comes to reliability. Don’t kid yourself. Have you not seen the threads about misaligned panels, creaks, rattles, improperly functioning electronics, etc etc.
Also, just because your RDX is good, does not mean that all RDXs are good. On that same note, just because the RDX has a high level of issues does not mean all RDXs will have issues. You got lucky with yours. Many others did not.
I’ve seen on the boards here a number of people who said thy bought an RDX because they perceive Acuras and Hondas to be reliable. If only they knew how to open a web browser and spend 6 minutes searching
Seriously. Acura sucks these days when it comes to reliability. Don’t kid yourself. Have you not seen the threads about misaligned panels, creaks, rattles, improperly functioning electronics, etc etc.
Also, just because your RDX is good, does not mean that all RDXs are good. On that same note, just because the RDX has a high level of issues does not mean all RDXs will have issues. You got lucky with yours. Many others did not.
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10-25-2018, 09:43 AM
#3
Ex-OEM King
What are the metrics by which this list was created. I'm hesitant to believe most lists due to how they are created and how classify an "issue" with the car.
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10-25-2018, 11:45 AM
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Azine Jabroni
It makes sense. You have to look at the car objectively. Acura, in the last couple of years, made some pretty bad missteps in their cars. For one, the TLX was a solid offering when it launched, but the ZF9 transmission was bad. So bad, Acura accrued a crazy high number of issues. Also remember Acura's lineup of cars is very small, so any one issue is magnified because of the small list of cars.
10-25-2018, 11:45 AM
#5
Senior Moderator
Lexus 
10-25-2018, 11:47 AM
#6
Team Owner
10-25-2018, 11:48 AM
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10-25-2018, 11:48 AM
#8
Azine Jabroni
I would expect, by the way, that the new 2.0T causes some issues in Acura's reliability rankings for the first couple of years as well.
In the mid to late 2000s, Audi's reliability scores were terrible because, among other things, they were the first of the German manufacturers to introduce a 2.0T in the A4. Honda was very conservative in their adoption of newer technologies. It serves them well, but when they finally move to newer stuff, their reliability shows it.
In the mid to late 2000s, Audi's reliability scores were terrible because, among other things, they were the first of the German manufacturers to introduce a 2.0T in the A4. Honda was very conservative in their adoption of newer technologies. It serves them well, but when they finally move to newer stuff, their reliability shows it.
10-25-2018, 11:50 AM
#9
Team Owner
It makes sense. You have to look at the car objectively. Acura, in the last couple of years, made some pretty bad missteps in their cars. For one, the TLX was a solid offering when it launched, but the ZF9 transmission was bad. So bad, Acura accrued a crazy high number of issues. Also remember Acura's lineup of cars is very small, so any one issue is magnified because of the small list of cars.
10-25-2018, 11:54 AM
#10
Team Owner
I would expect, by the way, that the new 2.0T causes some issues in Acura's reliability rankings for the first couple of years as well.
In the mid to late 2000s, Audi's reliability scores were terrible because, among other things, they were the first of the German manufacturers to introduce a 2.0T in the A4. Honda was very conservative in their adoption of newer technologies. It serves them well, but when they finally move to newer stuff, their reliability shows it.
In the mid to late 2000s, Audi's reliability scores were terrible because, among other things, they were the first of the German manufacturers to introduce a 2.0T in the A4. Honda was very conservative in their adoption of newer technologies. It serves them well, but when they finally move to newer stuff, their reliability shows it.
10-25-2018, 11:59 AM
#11
Team Owner
Turbo engines aren't rocket science. Just don't cheap out on parts that face high levels of stress. And get your tuning right. If a Dyno shop can tune the shit out of an ecu for a car that was never turbo'd in the first place, you would think a billion dollar conglomerate could get it right also.
Manufacturers also study the crap out of each others products. It's not like Honda decided one day to build turbo engines and did zero research into it. I'd imagine the issues happen when the bean counters get involved and start looking for ways to cut costs. Manufacturers even build in parts into cars they expect to fail... Keeps the repair shop happy. There's zero reason a J series engine in 2018 still needs to rely on a timing belt instead of a timing chain. Honda keeps it on purpose, though.
Manufacturers also study the crap out of each others products. It's not like Honda decided one day to build turbo engines and did zero research into it. I'd imagine the issues happen when the bean counters get involved and start looking for ways to cut costs. Manufacturers even build in parts into cars they expect to fail... Keeps the repair shop happy. There's zero reason a J series engine in 2018 still needs to rely on a timing belt instead of a timing chain. Honda keeps it on purpose, though.
10-25-2018, 12:06 PM
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Senior Moderator
Cadillac. Yikes.
10-25-2018, 12:24 PM
#13
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Shit Cadillac and Volvo..
Good thing we don't know anyone that has those two pieces of shit
Know anyone @rockstar143 ?
Good thing we don't know anyone that has those two pieces of shit
Know anyone @rockstar143 ?
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10-25-2018, 12:50 PM
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Shit Cadillac and Volvo..
Good thing we don't know anyone that has those two pieces of shit
Know anyone @rockstar143 ?
Good thing we don't know anyone that has those two pieces of shit
Know anyone @rockstar143 ?
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10-25-2018, 12:54 PM
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Ahhh relativity
10-25-2018, 01:02 PM
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Some of these lists are subjective. But I think Acura has had it's share of issues, many of which have been major. Luckily my 4G has been solid but I'll definitely be considering a Lexus for my next vehicle.
10-25-2018, 01:45 PM
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Senior Moderator
I mean.. these reports typically are referring to current MY's right? Not OVERALL.. ?
10-25-2018, 01:59 PM
#18
Team Owner
Duh!
10-25-2018, 02:59 PM
#21
Team Owner
They used to be shit. They've really cleaned up their act in the last 3 or 4 years it seems.
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10-25-2018, 03:09 PM
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Azine Jabroni
- Both subsidiaries of larger automakers
- Both use FWD/AWD as their drivetrains
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10-25-2018, 03:28 PM
#23
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Audi is singled out cuz it's the cuck-standard. And no one likes cucks.
Or something like that.
Or something like that.
10-25-2018, 03:30 PM
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Azine Jabroni
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10-25-2018, 03:38 PM
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10-25-2018, 06:29 PM
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Acura: The past few years have seen Acura—Honda’s luxury brand—add new automatic transmissions and infotainment systems, and they caused reliability headaches. These problems have been worked out on most models, although the MDX is still below average in these two areas.
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10-25-2018, 09:43 PM
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10-25-2018, 10:15 PM
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Audi tends to be in the crosshairs of Acura people. I admit I was a four rings doubter for a while. There are some similarities between Audi and Acura
- Both subsidiaries of larger automakers
- Both use FWD/AWD as their drivetrains
10-25-2018, 10:19 PM
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Azine Jabroni
10-26-2018, 06:57 AM
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10-26-2018, 08:20 AM
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10-26-2018, 08:22 AM
#37
Team Owner
That’s all Saintor’s money is on. And then he will follow up with telling you he only drives in Sport+ mode
10-26-2018, 08:34 AM
#39
Team Owner
Why do I get the feeling we aren’t even talking about the same thing here?