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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 09:32 AM
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Acura less reliable than Audi?

These are the latest Consumer Reports brand rankings...
1. Lexus
2. Toyota
3. Mazda
4. Subaru
5. Kia
6. Infiniti
7. Audi
8. BMW
9. Mini
10. Hyundai
11. Porsche
12. Genesis
13. Acura
14. Nissan
15. Honda
16. Volkswagen
17. Mercedes-Benz
18. Ford
19. Buick
20. Lincoln
21. Dodge
22. Jeep
23. Chevrolet
24. Chrysler
25. GMC
26. Ram
27. Tesla
28. Cadillac
29. Volvo

Is Acura hurting from the transmission issues or are there other issues? I have a 2019 RDX and have had a couple of blips with the Information System but that hardly makes the car less reliable than an Audi...
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 09:36 AM
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Acura is full of issues these days. They are NOT reliable like they used to be. They haven’t been reliable in a long time. But car stigmas die hard and those who spent 40k on an SUV recently are likely not going to be the first ones to admit their purchase has flaws.

I’ve seen on the boards here a number of people who said thy bought an RDX because they perceive Acuras and Hondas to be reliable. If only they knew how to open a web browser and spend 6 minutes searching


Seriously. Acura sucks these days when it comes to reliability. Don’t kid yourself. Have you not seen the threads about misaligned panels, creaks, rattles, improperly functioning electronics, etc etc.

Also, just because your RDX is good, does not mean that all RDXs are good. On that same note, just because the RDX has a high level of issues does not mean all RDXs will have issues. You got lucky with yours. Many others did not.

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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 09:43 AM
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What are the metrics by which this list was created. I'm hesitant to believe most lists due to how they are created and how classify an "issue" with the car.
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 11:45 AM
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It makes sense. You have to look at the car objectively. Acura, in the last couple of years, made some pretty bad missteps in their cars. For one, the TLX was a solid offering when it launched, but the ZF9 transmission was bad. So bad, Acura accrued a crazy high number of issues. Also remember Acura's lineup of cars is very small, so any one issue is magnified because of the small list of cars.
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 11:45 AM
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by thoiboi
Lexus :zzz:
Yup.

Love my Audi.
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by svtmike


Yup.

Love my Audi.
So we all agree that new Acuras are


Good enough for me

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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 11:48 AM
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I would expect, by the way, that the new 2.0T causes some issues in Acura's reliability rankings for the first couple of years as well.

In the mid to late 2000s, Audi's reliability scores were terrible because, among other things, they were the first of the German manufacturers to introduce a 2.0T in the A4. Honda was very conservative in their adoption of newer technologies. It serves them well, but when they finally move to newer stuff, their reliability shows it.
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by kurtatx
It makes sense. You have to look at the car objectively. Acura, in the last couple of years, made some pretty bad missteps in their cars. For one, the TLX was a solid offering when it launched, but the ZF9 transmission was bad. So bad, Acura accrued a crazy high number of issues. Also remember Acura's lineup of cars is very small, so any one issue is magnified because of the small list of cars.
That's being generous. What about the insolvable vibrations when driving at speed some TLXs face? How at all is that acceptable in this day and age? There were a number of issues with the TLX that everyone seemingly ignores because Acura is the most reliable. Or something. I don't even know.
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by kurtatx
I would expect, by the way, that the new 2.0T causes some issues in Acura's reliability rankings for the first couple of years as well.

In the mid to late 2000s, Audi's reliability scores were terrible because, among other things, they were the first of the German manufacturers to introduce a 2.0T in the A4. Honda was very conservative in their adoption of newer technologies. It serves them well, but when they finally move to newer stuff, their reliability shows it.
Honda has had turbos since the late 80s, in Japan. It's nothing foreign to them. Audi had issues in the early 2000s because quite simply, they were shit. They cut corners to save a few bucks in areas they never should have. They were also using a VW derived powertrain, were they not? Those things were fun but unreliable.
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 11:59 AM
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Turbo engines aren't rocket science. Just don't cheap out on parts that face high levels of stress. And get your tuning right. If a Dyno shop can tune the shit out of an ecu for a car that was never turbo'd in the first place, you would think a billion dollar conglomerate could get it right also.

Manufacturers also study the crap out of each others products. It's not like Honda decided one day to build turbo engines and did zero research into it. I'd imagine the issues happen when the bean counters get involved and start looking for ways to cut costs. Manufacturers even build in parts into cars they expect to fail... Keeps the repair shop happy. There's zero reason a J series engine in 2018 still needs to rely on a timing belt instead of a timing chain. Honda keeps it on purpose, though.
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 12:06 PM
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Cadillac. Yikes.
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 12:24 PM
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Shit Cadillac and Volvo..


Good thing we don't know anyone that has those two pieces of shit


Know anyone @rockstar143 ?
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by thoiboi
Shit Cadillac and Volvo..


Good thing we don't know anyone that has those two pieces of shit


Know anyone @rockstar143 ?
Why do you think he hangs on to his ureliable-era A3?
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 12:54 PM
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Ahhh relativity

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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 01:02 PM
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Some of these lists are subjective. But I think Acura has had it's share of issues, many of which have been major. Luckily my 4G has been solid but I'll definitely be considering a Lexus for my next vehicle.
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 01:45 PM
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I mean.. these reports typically are referring to current MY's right? Not OVERALL.. ?
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 01:59 PM
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Duh!
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 02:15 PM
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 02:52 PM
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OP, why did you single out Audi?

Personally, when I think of Audi, I don't think unreliable.
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 02:59 PM
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They used to be shit. They've really cleaned up their act in the last 3 or 4 years it seems.
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RPhilMan1
OP, why did you single out Audi?

Personally, when I think of Audi, I don't think unreliable.
Audi tends to be in the crosshairs of Acura people. I admit I was a four rings doubter for a while. There are some similarities between Audi and Acura
  • Both subsidiaries of larger automakers
  • Both use FWD/AWD as their drivetrains
But that's about it. Audis are more expensive, but they're more reliable with better quality interiors, but their options are more difficult to add and demand a huge premium. It's also worth mentioning that Acuras share platforms with Accords but, while some Audis do share platforms with Volkswagen, more and more of their cars share platforms with Porsches.
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 03:28 PM
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Audi is singled out cuz it's the cuck-standard. And no one likes cucks.


Or something like that.
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Audi is singled out cuz it's the cuck-standard. And no one likes cucks.


Or something like that.
Your S5 is super reliable. Vapor doesn't have electronic or drive train issues
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by kurtatx
Your S5 is super reliable. Vapor doesn't have electronic or drive train issues









Oh sure, rub it in.
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Acura: The past few years have seen Acura—Honda’s luxury brand—add new automatic transmissions and infotainment systems, and they caused reliability headaches. These problems have been worked out on most models, although the MDX is still below average in these two areas.
https://www.consumerreports.org/car-...reliable-cars/
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 06:39 PM
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Well for the long run (7-8yo+), my money is on the Honda/Acura/Toyota/Nissan... but not Germans (and I would lease one 36-48mo).
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would you lease one using money?
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Originally Posted by kurtatx
Audi tends to be in the crosshairs of Acura people. I admit I was a four rings doubter for a while. There are some similarities between Audi and Acura
  • Both subsidiaries of larger automakers
  • Both use FWD/AWD as their drivetrains
But that's about it. Audis are more expensive, but they're more reliable with better quality interiors, but their options are more difficult to add and demand a huge premium. It's also worth mentioning that Acuras share platforms with Accords but, while some Audis do share platforms with Volkswagen, more and more of their cars share platforms with Porsches.
They both start with A.
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Saintor
Well for the long run (7-8yo+), my money is on the Honda/Acura/Toyota/Nissan... but not Germans (and I would lease one 36-48mo).
dont you lease your TLX?
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Flipster23


dont you lease your TLX?
you’re looking for argument consistency from a person who's IQ is the square root of someone else’s IQ.
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Old Oct 26, 2018 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by kurtatx

you’re looking for argument consistency from a person who's IQ is the square root of someone else’s IQ.
Whose.
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Old Oct 26, 2018 | 07:11 AM
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Whores.
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Old Oct 26, 2018 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Saintor
Well for the long run (7-8yo+), my money is on the Honda/Acura/Toyota/Nissan... but not Germans (and I would lease one 36-48mo).
but what’s the fuel economy like?
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Old Oct 26, 2018 | 08:20 AM
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on which one? his money isn't on fuel economy.
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Old Oct 26, 2018 | 08:22 AM
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That’s all Saintor’s money is on. And then he will follow up with telling you he only drives in Sport+ mode
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Old Oct 26, 2018 | 08:23 AM
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dude, he doesn't have one. his money isn't on that.
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Old Oct 26, 2018 | 08:34 AM
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Why do I get the feeling we aren’t even talking about the same thing here?
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Old Oct 26, 2018 | 08:40 AM
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now you're starting to follow his train of thought, buddy.
to find a crook, you have to think like a crook.

also, his money's not on that though, man.
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