Looking for a possible replacement for the Yukon. The heavy towing days are over soon. I have really gotten accustomed to the overall room in a big vehicle, but can do without the 12 mpg around town. My wife drives the TL daily now and doesn't want to give it up

I would be quick to jump on a 2011 6 speed, but I really need something with more rear leg room. Is the RL any better in this category, or do I need to look outside the Honda family?

I'd like to go with a bigger sedan, instead of another truck.

 

You should go look at the Acuras and see for yourself. I am a fairly tall guy and the TL has plenty of leg room for me

 

I mean rear leg room. I'm only 5'8 but have two 6'+ sons that have to fit

 

Oh! I have no idea what cars have much rear leg room.. other than Lincolns and Caddies. My 3G TL has enough rear legroom for most people... I will see about the 4G soon

 

I'm 6' and can fit in the back of a TL comfortably, but I can see how it might be a bit cramped with four people in the car. Are you set on getting a sedan? Because the MDX might suit your needs.

The RL won't be much bigger than the TL at all.

 

I rarely have had any people in my 11 TL, but I have a friend over 6' and he commented the car was pretty roomy in the back. I agree you might take a look at the MDX. Having looked at an RL before I got my TL, I don't think you will find the RL to offer much more if any additional rear seat leg room. If you still want a sedan in the TL price range, you might taken a look at a Toyota Avalon Limited. The styling is rather boring, but the car has a huge rear seat, it even reclines a bit. The interior is very nicely done. While it does not "run" as well as a TL, it is still an OK car, if you can get past to bland appearance and the old person stigma. One plus, it does get pretty good gas mileage for its size and burns regular.

 

I have a 4G and passed it to my wife. The rear leg room is not terrible, but for long trips it can be cramped.

the MDX might be the call, but I would think the gas mileage wont be too much better than the Yukon.

You've hit on exactly what I'm looking for and I understand about the old factor with the Avalon. I may have to look at a new genesis or the Avalon, or maybe a 5 series

 

Looks like you need a full sized sedan or an SUV, even a compact SUV should work for room and gas mileage. I don't know about a new 5, I found it's rear legroom to be no better if not worse than the TL's. Like the 4G compared to the 3G TL, the new 5 adds little interior volume (1 ft) despite it approaching full size dimensions on the exterior. Also, the new 5 series seats are about a foot thick so it takes away from the rear room. Extremely nice car nonetheless.

But rear legroom and front legroom are really one in the same space, most of the time it just depends on the seat position. That type of room can always be adjusted for and so can front headroom but never shoulder or width and generally not rear headroom. It's a good idea to check out the cars personally, don't rely on measurements too much. They rarely consider other factors that can drastically change what appears to be an advantage or disadvantage on paper.

 

Not too many full size sedans anymore... at least, in a reasonable price range

Lincoln Town car
Cadillac DTS
Hyundai Genesis
Mercedes S Class
BMW 7 Series
Audi A8/S8 (the 6 is kinda big too)
Lexus LS
Mercury Grand Marquis (discontinued brand!)
Ford Crown Vic
Buick Lacrosse


Bentley & Maybach have a nice back seat too

 

wow, i just decided to look at the progression of the Lincoln Town Car (my family probably owned about 25+ lincolns in the 80s/90s

They've got some serious balls charging over $50k for this outdated crown vic. no major changes, under powered V8, same boring Ford Radio since the 90s...no AWD... these guys are nuts

 

Just for info. I did drive a V8 Genesis. The car looked great both inside and out. However, while the car "flew", I was not impressed at all in the driving dynamics. The car, for the price, I thought was not very quiet, steering felt funny while on center, and the rear suspension made the car feel bouncy. In short, I was very disappointed. Considering the 40+ window sticker, I thought the Acura TL was a whole lot better car for the money. Frankly, I thought the Avalon was a better car than the Genesis. I can't comment on the BMW, I have not had the pleasure of driving the 5 Series. As to the 3 Series, I can tell you first hand, there is not a lot of room in the back seat. I think the TL has more room.

 

my fiancee has an 06 Avalon LTD that was gifted to her. its great car, very comfortable, averages 34mpg on an all highway trip, ample power for most needs, JBL sound, and a reclining back seat.

i think the 08+ went to a 6AT from the 5AT

its is a bit too much car for her though, she tends to misjudge curbs while making right turns and often hops them lol

 

Just out of curiosity, what year whas the Genesis? I test drove an 09 while I was shopping for the TL, and experienced the same behavior. Hyundai was supposed to have fixed the issues in 2010. I like the Avalon, but it certainly is short on excitement.

#39 is officially in the driveway.

It has
6 speed auto
274 hp
Voice activated everything
Navigation with Sirius traffic
Rear camera
Heated and cooled seats
Paddle shifters
Leather
Bluetooth
19" alloys
HID headlights
Led tail lights
More cabin room than a 4G
Rain sensing wipers
Dual exhaust
Push button starting
8 speaker 320 watt Infiniti sound system
Auxiliary and iPod USB jacks
Dual sun roofs

 

Oh, and it's silver

 

pics of #39 plz ... is it an mdx?

 

And under $30,000

 

Is it a maxima.

 

Hyundai Sonata Limited edition? it has to be cause of the 274 HP

 

^Yep. Congrats on the new Sonata. Take pics.

 

purchased new? good call on the 274! lol

 

Sonata has LED tails and dual sunroofs? Wowzers.

Congrats on the pickup! Can't wait to see pics.

 

Just an FYI, my 2010 MDX Advance averages 17 mpg with about 80% of that being heavy city driving.

 

Not a Sonata.

Pics to follow later this morning.

 

Doh, I was hoping to see something now!

 

not sure how much hp the pilot has ... but is it a honda pilot ex?

 

im changing my vote to the chevy traverse

 

OK not a Sonata, but her sister the optima.

 

 

That interior... Big congrats deserved! I think this looks better than the Sonata, and will be a little less common.

 

I can't say I am feeling it for the car at all but as long as you are happy with it, then congrats!

 

The body is subjective, but so was the TL. I like the side view and the back end, but I'm not thrilled with the nose and the wheels. The ride is solid and handling is incredible. I have one TL already and wasn't going to spend $45,000 on a new one. Driving 30,000-40,000 miles a year, I didn't want to invest too much. You can't find this much technology for the price with any other car. The warranty works...I have the first years service free and the fit / finish is way above anything I would have imagined. Overall, I'm happy and i can drive the TL whenever I want

 

wow i was way off ... kias are coming up in the auto industry looks really good congratz

 

that car is even smaller then the tl, and has less leg room....how is the turbo, does the power come on pretty decent, or is there a bunch of turbo lag?

 

Congrats!! I'm very impressed with what Kia did here.

 

For sure.. from the little matchbox, throw away cars to this. Korean cars are moving on up.

 

nice pick up man, great car. Besides SH-AWD its loaded with more features and more room than a 4G for 20 g's less!

 

My co-worker has the same exact car, color and package. He paid $28K OTD and it has more options than my TL-S. A/C cooled seats up front rear heated seats.

KIA's have definitely gone up in status!

 

Maybe the older models were, but this has significantly more room.

It's a pretty impressive bang for the buck!

Same here on the money and I got a great trade in for the Yukon...about $2000 more than Galves.

 

Nice car. Not a big fan of the wheels though.

 

nice pick up!