I've been looking at a few on autotrader, I got the urge to trade the TL for something different. What do you guys think about these bad boys?

 

I would only buy an 04 if I could get some type of warranty and not to mention the 2005.5 headlight refresh makes the car look 1000x better

 

is there lots of quality concerns in the 04? Audi forums suck btw.

 

From what I recall, the S4 had reliability issues, which is common with Audi, however, there were not nearly as bad as the previous S4 because they had gotten rid of the twin turbo 6 and went to a 8 cylinder.

That twin turbo was a sweet engine (I owned a 2.7T A6), but the turbo's failed like clockwork.

 

I honestly don;t think i'll be able to find something that offers what the TL does without spending another 10k

 

Not to mention the turbos are a huge PITA to get to if you work on them yourself, and if you get someone else to do it for you, well.... labor = $$$$$$

 

04 is a NA V8 so no turbo worries.

 

Hmm I'm sure the water pump and timing belt would cost a lot of money. But it also depends how many miles on it, and what warranty you get. Fixing Audis can get expensive.

 

Make sure you get a chance to test drive one....I also had the same urge and after driving one I was less than impressed. I did however make the mistake of comparing an e46 M3 right after the S4 test drive. Since that comparison I've been trying to justify getting into an M. Those cars are truly amazing...

 

You can get an 05 CTS-V for $30k with 30k miles.

But if you want a S4 you really need to get a warranty. Audi is unfortunately at the bottom of the JD Power rankings for a reason

 

I 2nd the cts v option

 

If the car checks out and has had the timing belt replaced (assuming it has over 60k miles), you're golden. I test drove an A6 2.7T last month, damn check engine light came on during the drive and the car lost all oil pressure. Needless to say, I didn't buy it. Just be ready for the high cost of ownership in an Audi.

 

Hmm I thought a CTS-V would be less reliable than a S4. Or at least it seems that way with all the videos of CTS-V screwing up.

 

I thought about a CTS-V but GM interiors just don't do it for me. The new one looks very promising though.

 

Just the rear differentials really...and a couple aftermarket solutions do now exist since the '04 V's are coming off warranty. The aftermarket should really start to kick in and you'll start seeing some serious HP numbers flooding the forums.

 

I fully agree on the interiors. My '01 CLS had a nicer interior than my '05 V. You tend to forget about the interior when you get torque-slapped a few times though.