1 of the 3 Genesis in the United States...
02-26-2008, 04:38 PM
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1 of the 3 Genesis in the United States...
... was just under my command this morning. It's in the U.S. for testing and I was able to get some seat time. I'm trying to push for another test drive. It was a lot of fun to drive that thing.
It's a V6 with 6-speed auto and a mix-match of USDM and KDM, as some parts are U.S.-spec and some are Korean-spec. For instance, the door sills display "Equus" which is definitely Korean, but the front grille has the Hyundai badge on it which is technically neither Korean nor U.S. But considering the Korean version gets the winged emblem, this is most likely the U.S. version, or at least a prototype being considered for the U.S. market. The steering wheel is also marked with the traditional Equus symbol.
The interior is the same as the camoflouged prototype I test drove in Namyang, Korea last year. It's nice and comfortable. There's a resemblance to the Mercedes S-class and the Infiniti M-class which is no bad thing. It works and the stereo system is great. The upgraded Sonata interior is nice, but this is much better.
The V6 had no problem spinning the rear wheels on command. The only gripe I have is that even with the ESC disabled, stability still kicked in when I got the rear end out. My several attempts at drifting the car resulted in an epic failure due to the techno nannies onboard. I hope the production model will have a full disable feature of the stability control system. Otherwise I'll be "that guy" who cuts the stability control wire harness.
The stability control only kicked in when the rear end was completely out, and up to that point, the chassis felt rigid, stable and controllable. In normal driving, steering was just right; not too heavy or light with a good amount of feedback. But at highway cruising speeds, I thought it was a bit too touchy in the center but it could've been the shitty pavement.
Keep in mind that this car has been BEATEN to death and back several times. It has undergone severe testing and the car has been taken apart and put back together many times. It was still very nice, though. I cannot wait to get some seat time in a loaded V8 production version. It would be very, very nice.
Overall, I'm confident that most people who test drive the Genesis will end up buying one. This will be a big hit for Hyundai. RWD is oh so much fun.
Normally I wouldn't post pictures, but it's already been unveiled in Korea so it's no secret. Still, I'm only going to post few pictures for now. I may post more later.
In a couple of months, I'll have an early production Genesis Coupe on my hands along with a better example of the sedan. I'll post a review then.
It's a V6 with 6-speed auto and a mix-match of USDM and KDM, as some parts are U.S.-spec and some are Korean-spec. For instance, the door sills display "Equus" which is definitely Korean, but the front grille has the Hyundai badge on it which is technically neither Korean nor U.S. But considering the Korean version gets the winged emblem, this is most likely the U.S. version, or at least a prototype being considered for the U.S. market. The steering wheel is also marked with the traditional Equus symbol.
The interior is the same as the camoflouged prototype I test drove in Namyang, Korea last year. It's nice and comfortable. There's a resemblance to the Mercedes S-class and the Infiniti M-class which is no bad thing. It works and the stereo system is great. The upgraded Sonata interior is nice, but this is much better.
The V6 had no problem spinning the rear wheels on command. The only gripe I have is that even with the ESC disabled, stability still kicked in when I got the rear end out. My several attempts at drifting the car resulted in an epic failure due to the techno nannies onboard. I hope the production model will have a full disable feature of the stability control system. Otherwise I'll be "that guy" who cuts the stability control wire harness.
The stability control only kicked in when the rear end was completely out, and up to that point, the chassis felt rigid, stable and controllable. In normal driving, steering was just right; not too heavy or light with a good amount of feedback. But at highway cruising speeds, I thought it was a bit too touchy in the center but it could've been the shitty pavement.
Keep in mind that this car has been BEATEN to death and back several times. It has undergone severe testing and the car has been taken apart and put back together many times. It was still very nice, though. I cannot wait to get some seat time in a loaded V8 production version. It would be very, very nice.
Overall, I'm confident that most people who test drive the Genesis will end up buying one. This will be a big hit for Hyundai. RWD is oh so much fun.
Normally I wouldn't post pictures, but it's already been unveiled in Korea so it's no secret. Still, I'm only going to post few pictures for now. I may post more later.
In a couple of months, I'll have an early production Genesis Coupe on my hands along with a better example of the sedan. I'll post a review then.
02-26-2008, 04:47 PM
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Are the interior materials of lux quality?
I think the interior is decent, but for some reason, it looks like it could be of low quality plastic.
The steering wheel is still
and I don't care for the fake wood trim flowing around the speedo and tach.
The exterior is excellent!
I think the interior is decent, but for some reason, it looks like it could be of low quality plastic.
The steering wheel is still
and I don't care for the fake wood trim flowing around the speedo and tach.The exterior is excellent!
02-26-2008, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
The V6 had no problem spinning the rear wheels on command.
02-26-2008, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Walmart Gangsta
wheres the RWD V8 coupe hynduia is suppose to make?
The production version will be unveiled within the next year.
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02-26-2008, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Are the interior materials of lux quality?
I think the interior is decent, but for some reason, it looks like it could be of low quality plastic.
The steering wheel is still and I don't care for the fake wood trim flowing around the speedo and tach.
The exterior is excellent!
I think the interior is decent, but for some reason, it looks like it could be of low quality plastic.
The steering wheel is still
and I don't care for the fake wood trim flowing around the speedo and tach.The exterior is excellent!
02-26-2008, 05:13 PM
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There's probably one tooling around the Irvine/Costa Mesa/Fountain Valley area in Cali. I remember I'd always see Hyundai's test vehicles when I used to work in Costa Mesa.
02-26-2008, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by joerockt
Just realized how much this thing is a ripoff of the RL front end.
But hey, its cheaper, so who cares...right?
But hey, its cheaper, so who cares...right?
Not to mention the RL turned out to be a flop. Let's see which car does better in sales; the Genesis or the RL.
02-26-2008, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
Like the RL isn't supposed to be a cheaper alternative to the legitimate luxury brand vehicles.
Not to mention the RL turned out to be a flop. Let's see which car does better in sales; the Genesis or the RL.
Not to mention the RL turned out to be a flop. Let's see which car does better in sales; the Genesis or the RL.
This car will sell like hotcakes, just not to the same people who are buying Benz or Lexus. People need to realize that.
02-26-2008, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by CarbonGray Earl
There's probably one tooling around the Irvine/Costa Mesa/Fountain Valley area in Cali. I remember I'd always see Hyundai's test vehicles when I used to work in Costa Mesa.
Hyundai Motor America headquarters is located in Fountain Valley, as well.SE Michiganders would often see Hyundai prototypes, as the R&D Center is located in Ann Arbor.
02-26-2008, 05:19 PM
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Ok, for some reason this car looked much better in the SB commercials :gheylaugh: but after looking at these pictures it looks like an over grown sonata with buick regals interior, I'd have respectfully pass 
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02-26-2008, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
Like the RL isn't supposed to be a cheaper alternative to the legitimate luxury brand vehicles.
Not to mention the RL turned out to be a flop. Let's see which car does better in sales; the Genesis or the RL.
Not to mention the RL turned out to be a flop. Let's see which car does better in sales; the Genesis or the RL.
Unless this thing becomes a complete flop, it shouldn't have any problem surpassing the RL's paltry sales.
Will you be testing a V8 model?
02-26-2008, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by joerockt
No, but this is an even cheaper, cheaper alternative. And the term "luxury" is highly questionable for the Genesis.
Unless this thing becomes a complete flop, it shouldn't have any problem surpassing the RL's paltry sales.
Will you be testing a V8 model?
Unless this thing becomes a complete flop, it shouldn't have any problem surpassing the RL's paltry sales.
Will you be testing a V8 model?
Here you go again
How do you know it will be a cheaper cheaper alternative? Have you seen one in person yet? Sat in one?
Give it a rest already. We don't know yet, though PA has a clue. Otherwise we'll all find out when this car is finally released.
02-26-2008, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Here you go again
How do you know it will be a cheaper cheaper alternative? Have you seen one in person yet? Sat in one?
Give it a rest already. We don't know yet, though PA has a clue. Otherwise we'll all find out when this car is finally released.
How do you know it will be a cheaper cheaper alternative? Have you seen one in person yet? Sat in one?
Give it a rest already. We don't know yet, though PA has a clue. Otherwise we'll all find out when this car is finally released.
02-26-2008, 05:42 PM
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I think in terms of exterior design Hyundai hit a score of 10 out of 10. Like pureadrenaline said, it's a mix of S-class and Infiniti M but I think the result is really good looking.The interior is questionable, especially the steering wheel and the general layout design. Let it be said, if I was in the market, I'd get the Genesis over the redesigned 09 RL. I'm still convinced people won't even give it a look under pretext it's a Korean vehicle. A Hyundai
02-26-2008, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by joerockt
Oh, I don't know, based on PRICE maybe?
What if...just what if Hyundai is undercutting everyone to get their product in the market. And then if it catches on and grows over the years, the price will increase.
Shit I dont anyone who followed this model before coughacuralexushondatoyotainfinitietccough
02-26-2008, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by joerockt
No, but this is an even cheaper, cheaper alternative. And the term "luxury" is highly questionable for the Genesis.
Unless this thing becomes a complete flop, it shouldn't have any problem surpassing the RL's paltry sales.
Will you be testing a V8 model?
Unless this thing becomes a complete flop, it shouldn't have any problem surpassing the RL's paltry sales.
Will you be testing a V8 model?
I mean, unless someone shops in the BMW 5-series range at minimum, I would hope that he/she would give the Genesis a test drive at the least. It's a worthy contender. This has nothing to do with the fact that I work for the company. Even if this were an Isuzu, I would at least give it some consideration... not put it down before you even have a chance to see one, much less test drive, in person.
It's a great choice to consider in the highly competitive $30k+ range. For picky car guys like ourselves who shop for family sedans, this could just be the fix; a rear-wheel drive V8 sedan for an affordable price. I just don't understand why you have to put forth so much negativity. Aren't we all better off as we have more choices? Especially when it's a drivetrain and powertrain that is rare to find in this range?
Then again, perhaps others are just more open-minded than you are. Unless you drive something like an S65 AMG on a daily basis, you can't justify talking shit about the Genesis. But that could verify the fact that you're a jackass.
02-26-2008, 05:47 PM
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Looks like a rip off of all the luxury cars in the same price range....
Interior looks like a clash between the S-class,M45, and CLS....front end looks like an RL and LS460...rear trunk looks like the 7 series...the light stack looks like the LS and the rear valance looks like the RL's....
And those rims...look like some cheap ASA wheels tire rack always has on special
Interior looks like a clash between the S-class,M45, and CLS....front end looks like an RL and LS460...rear trunk looks like the 7 series...the light stack looks like the LS and the rear valance looks like the RL's....
And those rims...look like some cheap ASA wheels tire rack always has on special
02-26-2008, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by joerockt
Just realized how much this thing is a ripoff of the RL front end.
But hey, its cheaper, so who cares...right?
But hey, its cheaper, so who cares...right?
yea and the rear is a rip off the new bimmers. but who cares if it looks nice to the consumer? i agree with the interior needing some work, wood is kind of played as well as the wheels
other than that..its a pretty nice car if hyundai fixes the kinks. how does the nav work?
02-26-2008, 05:55 PM
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oh the side profile is a complete G35 clone....
02-26-2008, 05:59 PM
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If you havent figured out that most car designs are pretty incestuous...well, welcome to the world.
02-26-2008, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
In a couple of months, I'll have an early production Genesis Coupe on my hands along with a better example of the sedan. I'll post a review then.
02-26-2008, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
Then again, perhaps others are just more open-minded than you are.
I don't care about badges... whatever car fits my needs, wants and budget at the time, get my business...
I can easily consider a BMW or Hyundai... and while looking for an affordable RWD 2+2 coupe might have to do just that... pick a genesis coupe or 128i...
10 years ago, I would never even consider buying a Hyundai... but times have changed... and so have my opinion of the brand...
02-26-2008, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
What do you drive again? It's an honest question. I just want to know your background and financial status to see why you're so negative about a great option for us consumers in the $30k+ family sedan market.
I mean, unless someone shops in the BMW 5-series range at minimum, I would hope that he/she would give the Genesis a test drive at the least. It's a worthy contender. This has nothing to do with the fact that I work for the company. Even if this were an Isuzu, I would at least give it some consideration... not put it down before you even have a chance to see one, much less test drive, in person.
It's a great choice to consider in the highly competitive $30k+ range. For picky car guys like ourselves who shop for family sedans, this could just be the fix; a rear-wheel drive V8 sedan for an affordable price. I just don't understand why you have to put forth so much negativity. Aren't we all better off as we have more choices? Especially when it's a drivetrain and powertrain that is rare to find in this range?
Then again, perhaps others are just more open-minded than you are. Unless you drive something like an S65 AMG on a daily basis, you can't justify talking shit about the Genesis. But that could verify the fact that you're a jackass.
I mean, unless someone shops in the BMW 5-series range at minimum, I would hope that he/she would give the Genesis a test drive at the least. It's a worthy contender. This has nothing to do with the fact that I work for the company. Even if this were an Isuzu, I would at least give it some consideration... not put it down before you even have a chance to see one, much less test drive, in person.
It's a great choice to consider in the highly competitive $30k+ range. For picky car guys like ourselves who shop for family sedans, this could just be the fix; a rear-wheel drive V8 sedan for an affordable price. I just don't understand why you have to put forth so much negativity. Aren't we all better off as we have more choices? Especially when it's a drivetrain and powertrain that is rare to find in this range?
Then again, perhaps others are just more open-minded than you are. Unless you drive something like an S65 AMG on a daily basis, you can't justify talking shit about the Genesis. But that could verify the fact that you're a jackass.
Dude, relax...I'm allowed to have a goddamn opinion and my opinion of Hyundai as far as what they've put out AT THIS POINT IN TIME isn't impressive at all. A lot of you are looking at it from the perspective of "well, others will like it" or "should be a great car for others to drive" whereas I'm looking at it from the perspective of "Would I personally purchase this car?". Would others buy it, sure! Its going to sell...Would I? Nope...I never personally like the look and now I can confirm for sure I don't like the interior. Why would I test drive something I have no starting interest in?And since when is someone not allowed to be a skeptic? Look, if the car is a success, fantastic, I hope Hyundai makes a lot of money and you have a job for a long time. But until then, I'm a skeptic like a LOT of other people out there about the crooked H.
So quit getting all butt hurt about an opinion and deal with it already...
02-26-2008, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
I'm sorry. Where have you seen the official Genesis prices published for the U.S. market again?
02-26-2008, 06:50 PM
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nice Dodge Ram logo on the steering wheel...
give it some dark ass windows and debadge it entirely and it'd look just like any other luxury car. I want one.
02-26-2008, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
I don't care about badges... whatever car fits my needs, wants and budget at the time, get my business...
I can easily consider a BMW or Hyundai... and while looking for an affordable RWD 2+2 coupe might have to do just that... pick a genesis coupe or 128i...
10 years ago, I would never even consider buying a Hyundai... but times have changed... and so have my opinion of the brand...
Best post in Car Talk of 08! Much Respect.
02-26-2008, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
When is this supposed to hit the market? I might have to talk my parents into looking at a Hyundai.
I personally am looking forward to the coupe.
I personally am looking forward to the coupe.
Boy Kevin, you sure have changed... just kidding.