'03 Tls vs '03 G35 auto
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'03 Tls vs '03 G35 auto
Maybe getting my first TL-S on Wednesday (very excited) and one of my co-workers just bought an '03 4 door G35 auto. Both are bone stock, just wondering what you guys think of that race. I know the horse power ratings are identical, but the G35 is supposed to have more torque. Let me know what you think.
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I'm actually surprised because back when this was a hot topic about 2 years ago the numbers were identical (mag and real world experience). I was miffed at the time as well because the G35s auto had more torque, lighter, and rwd but apparently the gearing on the TLS made up for that. This is such a close race that it depends on the driver (as silly as that may sound for autos). essentially is comes down to who launches the car better and who gets on it quicker.
My guess is that the G might win 6 out of 10 times, but the numbers show that both cars are 14.8-15.2 stock in general (neither particularly quick). Plus don't forget that most people are comparing crank torque and hp now whp/wtq.
My guess is that the G might win 6 out of 10 times, but the numbers show that both cars are 14.8-15.2 stock in general (neither particularly quick). Plus don't forget that most people are comparing crank torque and hp now whp/wtq.
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I dont know about the J32A but the VQ35DE gets about .3 second quicker once it's broken in. A lot of the mag times on various VQ35DE powered cars (specifically Altimas, Maximas, G35s and Zs) seem measurably slower than what I've witnessed at the track, including my own 5.5G Maxima.
IMHO, unless the TL-S falls along those lines I'd say that the G35S will take the TL-S 8/10 times, all other things being fairly equal.
IMHO, unless the TL-S falls along those lines I'd say that the G35S will take the TL-S 8/10 times, all other things being fairly equal.
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Originally Posted by F23A4
I dont know about the J32A but the VQ35DE gets about .3 second quicker once it's broken in. A lot of the mag times on various VQ35DE powered cars (specifically Altimas, Maximas, G35s and Zs) seem measurably slower than what I've witnessed at the track, including my own 5.5G Maxima.
IMHO, unless the TL-S falls along those lines I'd say that the G35S will take the TL-S 8/10 times, all other things being fairly equal.
IMHO, unless the TL-S falls along those lines I'd say that the G35S will take the TL-S 8/10 times, all other things being fairly equal.
btw, are the 03 autos 4 or 5 speeds for the G? I remember for the longest that the Nissans were 4-speeds not 5.
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Originally Posted by ferizzo
Don't know a whole helluva lot about the VQs just posting on my experience seeing and reading the times that G35s were posting a while back. This was back when the post wars were going on between the G and the TLS...fun times. I just think the two cars are too close to call.
btw, are the 03 autos 4 or 5 speeds for the G? I remember for the longest that the Nissans were 4-speeds not 5.
btw, are the 03 autos 4 or 5 speeds for the G? I remember for the longest that the Nissans were 4-speeds not 5.
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Originally Posted by VTEC11
G35 automatics are 5 speed. Its the 03 Max that had a 4 speed auto.
Oh and the only way to find out is to race him.
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Originally Posted by ferizzo
Don't know a whole helluva lot about the VQs just posting on my experience seeing and reading the times that G35s were posting a while back. This was back when the post wars were going on between the G and the TLS...fun times. I just think the two cars are too close to call.
btw, are the 03 autos 4 or 5 speeds for the G? I remember for the longest that the Nissans were 4-speeds not 5.
btw, are the 03 autos 4 or 5 speeds for the G? I remember for the longest that the Nissans were 4-speeds not 5.
3.2TL vs Nissan A33 (Maxima/I30 w/VQ30DE-k)
3.2TL-S vs Nissan A33 (Maxima/I35 w/VQ35DE)
3.2TL-S vs G35S (intermingled with CL-S vs G35C debates)
TL vs G35
The Maxima/I30/I35 performance comparison with the 3.2TL/S was almost always a tossup. But the G35's RWD and torque advantage add's a performance 'dimension' that the Maxima never had.
Astanf, if you guys run be certain to video the race.
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Originally Posted by zeroday
g35s has less hp than a g35c; 260
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I'm sorry, but the G35 has to be one of the most overrated cars in terms of acceleration. A race between a TL-S/3rd gen TL and a G35, given equal transmissions and equal drivers, is neck and neck. Whoever says "one is much faster" is just plain ignorant.
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Originally Posted by g35doc
G35 is RWD, over 150 lbs. lighter, has more torque, and has a lower drag coefficient. No contest.
says who?
i don't think so, it should be dead even
don't under est the type-S, it's freaking fast in VTEC range, VQ has torque but no high rpm power
a G35 cannot pull away nor a TL can pull away
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Originally Posted by 03TL-S
it has less hp than the coupe, but numbers are still very similar. The g35 will win no doubt. I had an TL-S with a few mods and ive driven g35 sedans when i get them as a loaner. They are very quick
you feel fast coz of the extra torque, 30lb of torque advantage
but once hit VTEC TL > G35 in high rpm, TL has a shorter stroke so it supposed to rev faster and that helps as well
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Originally Posted by g35doc
The auto G sedan is a mid 14s car. Those in the high 14s/low 15s can't drive or don't know how to launch properly.
J32 has a shorter stroke and revs faster than the long stroke VQ35, so even more torque the TL still can make it fast
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I just raced my friends 05 G35 auto, i have headers and intake, and we raced 4 times, 2 0-60's, 60-120, 70-130 and each time i would either pull on him or he couldnt pull on me at all. They arnt terrribly quick.
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Originally Posted by darkfox12
I just raced my friends 05 G35 auto, i have headers and intake, and we raced 4 times, 2 0-60's, 60-120, 70-130 and each time i would either pull on him or he couldnt pull on me at all. They arnt terrribly quick.
if he has a manual then it makes a difference, but auto isn't that quick
i am not thrilled to know the G is 0.2 sec quicker, i would be thrilled if a M5 pass by like you are not running at all
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Auto G35 Sedan vs. TL/CL-S is pretty even, but I give the edge to the g35 if I had to choose.
Stick G35 Sedan vs TL/CL-S, def. the G35
This is stock vs. stock of course. Note this, most guys run mid to high 14s in g35 auto sedan, where most guys run high 14-low 15s in TL-S.
However, if we have I/H, we have no problem w/ em. I've raced both g35c stick/auto and g35 sedan stick and beat em, but not terribly. It was rather close. On the flip side, throw those mods on the G and we're toast.
They're definitely worth going after just for the hell of it. On the street, anything is possible.
Stick G35 Sedan vs TL/CL-S, def. the G35
This is stock vs. stock of course. Note this, most guys run mid to high 14s in g35 auto sedan, where most guys run high 14-low 15s in TL-S.
However, if we have I/H, we have no problem w/ em. I've raced both g35c stick/auto and g35 sedan stick and beat em, but not terribly. It was rather close. On the flip side, throw those mods on the G and we're toast.
They're definitely worth going after just for the hell of it. On the street, anything is possible.
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Originally Posted by samkws
well, they didn't have SE-R in 2001 when we had the TL-S
it's 2005 now, we have enjoyed for 4 yrs already
it's 2005 now, we have enjoyed for 4 yrs already
Originally Posted by samkws
i driven the 3.5 altima and they are fast, but not any faster than a TL-S
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Originally Posted by darkfox12
I just raced my friends 05 G35 auto, i have headers and intake, and we raced 4 times, 2 0-60's, 60-120, 70-130 and each time i would either pull on him or he couldnt pull on me at all. They arnt terrribly quick.