astanf

Maybe getting my first TL-S on Wednesday (very excited) and one of my co-workers just bought an '03 4 door G35 auto. Both are bone stock, just wondering what you guys think of that race. I know the horse power ratings are identical, but the G35 is supposed to have more torque. Let me know what you think.

zeroday

g35 should win.

fdl

rwd > fwd in a drag race.

bigman

g35 should get the win. But get a set of stone racing or obx headers for cheap. It wont change the stock exhaust not much, you should beat him or hang better then.

Scrib

g35 will own j00

g35doc

G35 is RWD, over 150 lbs. lighter, has more torque, and has a lower drag coefficient. No contest.

FastAcura

He should win, but not by much at all. The G35s aren't exactly rockets, especially the sedans.

Shoofin

F23A4

http://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53125

ferizzo

I'm actually surprised because back when this was a hot topic about 2 years ago the numbers were identical (mag and real world experience). I was miffed at the time as well because the G35s auto had more torque, lighter, and rwd but apparently the gearing on the TLS made up for that. This is such a close race that it depends on the driver (as silly as that may sound for autos). essentially is comes down to who launches the car better and who gets on it quicker.

My guess is that the G might win 6 out of 10 times, but the numbers show that both cars are 14.8-15.2 stock in general (neither particularly quick). Plus don't forget that most people are comparing crank torque and hp now whp/wtq.

F23A4

I dont know about the J32A but the VQ35DE gets about .3 second quicker once it's broken in. A lot of the mag times on various VQ35DE powered cars (specifically Altimas, Maximas, G35s and Zs) seem measurably slower than what I've witnessed at the track, including my own 5.5G Maxima.

IMHO, unless the TL-S falls along those lines I'd say that the G35S will take the TL-S 8/10 times, all other things being fairly equal.

ferizzo

Don't know a whole helluva lot about the VQs just posting on my experience seeing and reading the times that G35s were posting a while back. This was back when the post wars were going on between the G and the TLS...fun times. I just think the two cars are too close to call.

btw, are the 03 autos 4 or 5 speeds for the G? I remember for the longest that the Nissans were 4-speeds not 5.

VTEC11

G35 automatics are 5 speed. Its the 03 Max that had a 4 speed auto.

Black CL-S 4-Life

For what its worth I beat a auto stock G35 Sedan by 2 cars but I'm modded.

ferizzo

cool, thanks...thought that might be the case but wasn't sure.

Oh and the only way to find out is to race him.

F23A4

I hear you ferizzo. The VQ vs J32 debates have been going on forever it seems:

3.2TL vs Nissan A33 (Maxima/I30 w/VQ30DE-k)
3.2TL-S vs Nissan A33 (Maxima/I35 w/VQ35DE)
3.2TL-S vs G35S (intermingled with CL-S vs G35C debates)
TL vs G35

The Maxima/I30/I35 performance comparison with the 3.2TL/S was almost always a tossup. But the G35's RWD and torque advantage add's a performance 'dimension' that the Maxima never had.

Astanf, if you guys run be certain to video the race.

zeroday

g35s has less hp than a g35c; 260

g35doc

The auto G sedan is a mid 14s car. Those in the high 14s/low 15s can't drive or don't know how to launch properly.

03TL-S

it has less hp than the coupe, but numbers are still very similar. The g35 will win no doubt. I had an TL-S with a few mods and ive driven g35 sedans when i get them as a loaner. They are very quick

Mike

you'll have a better chance if you run him from a roll. make sure he's got the passenger that's filming

ferizzo

Really? just curious, do you have slips?

g35doc

No time slips but if you do a search on g35driver many will have 14.4-14.7s 1/4 mile times. Although a few are worse than that...

2K2SilverTL-S

I'm sorry, but the G35 has to be one of the most overrated cars in terms of acceleration. A race between a TL-S/3rd gen TL and a G35, given equal transmissions and equal drivers, is neck and neck. Whoever says "one is much faster" is just plain ignorant.

Mike

i'd like to hear the facts that you're using to justify your position.

samkws

says who?

i don't think so, it should be dead even

don't under est the type-S, it's freaking fast in VTEC range, VQ has torque but no high rpm power

a G35 cannot pull away nor a TL can pull away

samkws

i driven the 3.5 altima and they are fast, but not any faster than a TL-S

you feel fast coz of the extra torque, 30lb of torque advantage

but once hit VTEC TL > G35 in high rpm, TL has a shorter stroke so it supposed to rev faster and that helps as well

samkws

TL-S can do low to mid 14s as well, i don't see it has such a great advantage over TL-S with same hp

J32 has a shorter stroke and revs faster than the long stroke VQ35, so even more torque the TL still can make it fast

Crazy Bimmer

TLS cant do low to mid 14s stock.

G35 manuals easily can. Not sure about Auto.

zeroday

lol some tall tales up in this thread

"once we hit vtec then WAAAAHHHRRROOMMM"

darkfox12

I just raced my friends 05 G35 auto, i have headers and intake, and we raced 4 times, 2 0-60's, 60-120, 70-130 and each time i would either pull on him or he couldnt pull on me at all. They arnt terrribly quick.

Pure Adrenaline

iTrader: (2)

There is no way in hell a stock TL-S would run low to mid-14's. Stock for stock, given equal drivers, the G35 would win every time. Physics don't lie.

samkws

real testing speaks for all, numbers are just numbers

if he has a manual then it makes a difference, but auto isn't that quick

i am not thrilled to know the G is 0.2 sec quicker, i would be thrilled if a M5 pass by like you are not running at all

F23A4

Alti SE-R will tear the TL-S a new one. Period.

samkws

well, they didn't have SE-R in 2001 when we had the TL-S

it's 2005 now, we have enjoyed for 4 yrs already

Dem1K

iTrader: (1)

Auto G35 Sedan vs. TL/CL-S is pretty even, but I give the edge to the g35 if I had to choose.

Stick G35 Sedan vs TL/CL-S, def. the G35

This is stock vs. stock of course. Note this, most guys run mid to high 14s in g35 auto sedan, where most guys run high 14-low 15s in TL-S.

However, if we have I/H, we have no problem w/ em. I've raced both g35c stick/auto and g35 sedan stick and beat em, but not terribly. It was rather close. On the flip side, throw those mods on the G and we're toast.

They're definitely worth going after just for the hell of it. On the street, anything is possible.

ferrari527

new g35 has 280hp, no contest but 03 would be close

F23A4

I dont see '2001' mentioned in your post. ^^

Black CL-S 4-Life

deerpark

What about SE-R Altima 6spds?

Never Summer

Holy thread revival, Batman!