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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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02 Maxima 6mt vs 05 TL 5at

The 02 Maxima 6mt surprised me completely stock, i thought the 05 TL 5at with mods with smoke it, but in fact the 02 Maxima beat the TL!

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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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I guess you have never driven the maxima, that VQ motor is a beast compared to our J series when it comes to torque.

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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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Maxima 3.5 plus add the lighter 6spd tranny ...
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 11:59 AM
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I had crappy mods back then lol... short ram + crushed bent 2.25" exhaust FTL.

I was about to run the maxima again wth my current mods (cai, atlp jpipe, atlp quads, ur pulley, tb/im spacers) but he sold the maxima =[ so now i will never know if i can take on a stock 6spd with these mods lol


and 5at has horrible gearing, every time it shifts it falls back due to not being in powerband
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 12:42 PM
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cool man, well i thought your car was going to win.

btw, no never have driven a maxima, but i've driven an I35, luxury maxima a few yrs ago though.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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VQs are a beastt
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 02:04 PM
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^^^

Yes. My current car has a lot more potential than my CL ever did.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 03:23 PM
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^ OT but what car is it?
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 03:25 PM
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^^ I35.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mokos23
The 02 Maxima 6mt surprised me completely stock, i thought the 05 TL 5at with mods with smoke it, but in fact the 02 Maxima beat the TL!

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A well driven stock 6MT Maxima should takedown a 3G TL 5AT even with basic boltons. As indicated above (and judging by my son's own Alti V6 5MT), VQ35s w/MTs can be monsters with the biggest x-factor being off-the-line traction.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RaviNJCLs
^^^

Yes. My current car has a lot more potential than my CL ever did.
I drove an 03 I35 back to back with an 03 TL-S and the TL felt gutless by comparison....granted, both cars were used and who knows how they were kept.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 03:44 PM
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I drove an 03 I35 back to back with an 03 TL-S and the TL felt gutless by comparison....granted, both cars were used and who knows how they were kept.
I 100% agree. I test drove an 03 TLs before I got the 04 I35.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 04:20 PM
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how many in total former acura drivers are now nissan or infiniti drivers? seems like a lot.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 05:21 PM
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im the opposite. i went from a maxima to tl-s.... my dad is the opposite of me. tl to maxima. i have been itching to get into an 02/03 6speed maxima for a little while but it seems like a giant step to the side in terms of an upgrade so im just holding out a little while to afford something better... but definitely do not underestimate the VQ's they are no joke.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 06:12 PM
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In all fairness to the TL in the orig post, that AT really kills the power output of the J32. (I sort of know how that feels owning an 07 AV6 5AT and having driven the 07 AV6 6MT a few times.)

Comparing apples to apples, the AT in the 5.5G Maxima and Alti V6 does not choke off nearly as much power....and is only hampered a bit by gearing IMHO. I tend to doubt that bolt ons for the TL 5AT take its performance anywhere close to that of a stock TL 6MT....which is what I would like to see run against a 5.5G 6MT.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 06:30 PM
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^^ Agreed but the low end torque from the VQ is what makes it a winner, does anyone know how much does the maxima weighs?
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
In all fairness to the TL in the orig post, that AT really kills the power output of the J32. (I sort of know how that feels owning an 07 AV6 5AT and having driven the 07 AV6 6MT a few times.)

Comparing apples to apples, the AT in the 5.5G Maxima and Alti V6 does not choke off nearly as much power....and is only hampered a bit by gearing IMHO. I tend to doubt that bolt ons for the TL 5AT take its performance anywhere close to that of a stock TL 6MT....which is what I would like to see run against a 5.5G 6MT.

I have a friend with a 2004 Altima V6 5AT with intake and I'm bone stock he is roughly a car slower.

Like Acura, Nissan 5A/T versus 6M/T trims are incredibly drastic as far as 1/4 is concerned. Some people can't even imagine how 1 extra gear and a 60 or so lbs less makes such a drastic difference, but believe me it does.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 07:05 PM
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Rofl at people street racing these FWD mom-mobiles.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 07:23 PM
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I will take my gas saving TL over the maxima any day with 4 dollar gas.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 07:44 PM
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Rofl at people street racing these FWD mom-mobiles.
This is what happens when internet is introduced in Kentucky
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 07:46 PM
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I will take my gas saving TL over the maxima any day with 4 dollar gas.
Yeah the TL is the most fuel efficient non-hybrid V6 that I can think of.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 08:11 PM
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This is what happens when internet is introduced in Kentucky

DANG intr'nets!!
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Eoanou
I have a friend with a 2004 Altima V6 5AT with intake and I'm bone stock he is roughly a car slower.

Like Acura, Nissan 5A/T versus 6M/T trims are incredibly drastic as far as 1/4 is concerned. Some people can't even imagine how 1 extra gear and a 60 or so lbs less makes such a drastic difference, but believe me it does.

VQ35DE's do not respond that well to intake mods so, that is a wash at best.

As far as 1/4 mile times go, a well prepped well driven Alti 5AT can post times of ~14.5 @ 94-95 mph versus the 5MT's 14.2 @ 99mph (<--my son). The TL 6MT is quicker (or should be) than .3 sec and 4 mph over its 5AT counterpart.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 08:25 PM
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I still love the TL at night though, such a light show with the side LEDs.
But the Maxima is awesome.
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 10:25 AM
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This is what happens when internet is introduced in Kentucky
Yeah, too bad we can't be like the sophisticated folks in MD who "slam" their family sedan. Nice whip bro!

Playful humor guys...just thought it hilarious to see an Altima being raced.
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 10:43 AM
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I had crappy mods back then lol... short ram + crushed bent 2.25" exhaust FTL.

I was about to run the maxima again wth my current mods (cai, atlp jpipe, atlp quads, ur pulley, tb/im spacers) but he sold the maxima =[ so now i will never know if i can take on a stock 6spd with these mods lol


and 5at has horrible gearing, every time it shifts it falls back due to not being in powerband
Sorry dude, but a crush bent exhaust isnt going to rob any power from your stock internal car, non forced induction car. Plus dyno testing proved on my TL that a full cat back gave me similar gains as an axle back. I made a few more horses, lost a few lbs of tq. down low, and my power across the board was about the same.
No matter which way it goes down the VQ makes torque. And people are always comparing peak numbers. That Maxima lays down some sick power under the curve, that is why it can hang or beat out a newer TL auto.
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MSO4gtt
Yeah, too bad we can't be like the sophisticated folks in MD who "slam" their family sedan. Nice whip bro!

Playful humor guys...just thought it hilarious to see an Altima being raced.
Is there a point to your posts? ....'cause if you cannot contribute to the thread productively then be somewhere else.
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 01:33 PM
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02/03 maximas are the fastest maximas built and the 3.5VQ is also one of the best v6 engines IMO. Their low end torque is amazing...and to anyone who says its just a crappy FWD 4 family car, go drive one! I had an 00 maxima 3.0VQ and was looking to purchase an 02/03 maxima, but got a 2002 Acura CL-S last minute only to join this board and read all about the tranny issues

check out maxima.org
It's a great site with a ton of nice looking 5.5gen maximas
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 02CL-TypeS
02/03 maximas are the fastest maximas built and the 3.5VQ is also one of the best v6 engines IMO. Their low end torque is amazing...and to anyone who says its just a crappy FWD 4 family car, go drive one! I had an 00 maxima 3.0VQ and was looking to purchase an 02/03 maxima, but got a 2002 Acura CL-S last minute only to join this board and read all about the tranny issues

check out maxima.org
It's a great site with a ton of nice looking 5.5gen maximas
Yeah, I was actually really close to pulling the trigger on a 03' Maxima but I decided to ride my Legend out for a little longer. The only thing I hated about it was the handling....felt like a boat, and this was coming from a Legend
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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yea the maximas handling definately isn't the best, but is easily fixed. Just add rear sway bar and front strut tower bar(even thought the front is mostly cosmetic). A drop also helps. The 00-03 maximas look sick with the 350z 6 spoke rims

I would have definately picked up a max, but they are so hard to come by in the SE package with black leather and heated seats
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JJaber06
Yeah, I was actually really close to pulling the trigger on a 03' Maxima but I decided to ride my Legend out for a little longer. The only thing I hated about it was the handling....felt like a boat, and this was coming from a Legend


Aside from HID-theft, the handling on the 5.5G does leave a lot to be desired...and this likely the only area where I like my AV6 better.
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 07:15 PM
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did the 00-03 Maximas offer navigation at all? i think the I35 did offer navi. I was just curious. if it does, i wonder if i can find a used I35 or 00-03 Maxima for under $15K.
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Originally Posted by Mokos23
did the 00-03 Maximas offer navigation at all? i think the I35 did offer navi. I was just curious. if it does, i wonder if i can find a used I35 or 00-03 Maxima for under $15K.
Navi became available in the 02-03 Maxima but, it is a CD-ROM....which means you would need disks for several regions of the country assuming you plan to drive beyond your home region. Same deal with the I35 I believe. That said, Navi 5.5G models on the used car market are few and far between. Advice: get a loaded 6MT and add a Pioneer AVIC-D3, which fits the dash well provided you get this .
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JJaber06
This is what happens when internet is introduced in Kentucky
lmao
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
Navi became available in the 02-03 Maxima but, it is a CD-ROM....which means you would need disks for several regions of the country assuming you plan to drive beyond your home region. Same deal with the I35 I believe. That said, Navi 5.5G models on the used car market are few and far between. Advice: get a loaded 6MT and add a Pioneer AVIC-D3, which fits the dash well provided you get this .
thanks!
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