I'd actually be surprised if it were so little.

 

Lmao at people complaining about the max 6400 ISO.


WTF it's 50MP man.

 

Yea maybe close to 5.

I was thinking because the 5D3 MSRP was like 3200 when new.

The 1DX was like 7K

 

But it's not though. The sensor is the same size, the pixels just got smaller just like with all of the point and shoots out there with 20mp that actually get worse image quality than lower res sensors. The point of the FF and MF sensors over the APS sensors is that the pixels are physically larger.

 

That's not always the case.

If so then a 5D classic should have way better IQ than a D810/5D3/D750

 

You're right but IQ of a 5DC at low ISO isn't that much different than the newer ones at your average print sizes. The benefits of the newer bodies is the lower noise at higher ISO and/or low light conditions.

I made a blanket statement saying that the higher the MP the worse the quality and that's not right but when you get up to the extremes, it does have a negative impact.

Anyway, 50MP is essentially pointless IMO unless it's in a real MF sensor.

 

Canon has never been that good at dynamic range with their sensors. They're getting help, that Nikon taught Sony. So it could be different.

 

this is an older line of thinking. the new technologies account for these phenomena.

 

yeah, I would have to agree with that... my a6000 produces better IQ and better noise control at 24MP vs the 2010 NEX 3/5 (the original NEX cameras), and those were 14MP, so in only 4 years they are able to improve on that... I guess Nikon was behind all that too

 

So probably gonna be sold for 4500 is my speculation.

 

Right, better noise control and image quality in low light settings is absolutely something that newer cameras and sensors have.

Let me ask you this though, if the D750 came with all the same tech in a 12MP sensor what do you think the image quality would be? Would you be able to tell any difference at all in even a 16x20 print?

 

Again bite ass hardon for anybody saying the truth about Sony products. Until Nikon had them build the sensor for the D800/e, Sony didn't know what to do with dynamic range. And even when they were finally to start putting that sensor in their bodies, they still couldn't fully do what Nikon did with it.

 

it's weird to think that a Nikon-designed sensor could be going into Canon camera... I mean seriously! I would have never thought that would happen.

remember when I had been contemplating going D800 but didn't do it because I'd have to buy new lenses - well now I can have my cake and eat it too

 

For shooters like us...yes.

But for commercial print a camera such as this has many applications. MF aren't always practical, a 50mp in a DSLR body has much more versatility.

 

Think about it a different way. If you have the *capability* to shoot at 50mp, guess what, you can start pushing yourself and your work into markets that need that high of a resolution.

 

you got any links to prove that Nikon "taught" Sony how to make sensors? Or this is just based on your observations or stuff you read in Nikon fanboy forums?

 

I hope this really goes through. That's when I'm going to pick up a new body. I wanted to get the 6D but looking at D750 RAW files makes me drool. I'll be waiting until Canon comes out with something that can compete.

The market for that is (in theory) very small though...

I know tons of people will buy this though because 50MP.

I get it but I (again IMO) don't feel like there's a real need for this in the current market based on what I know. Which is obviously not all that much.

 

nah I hear you. I'm just trying to rationalize it heh.

 

You're correct it is, and as such Im guessing the body will priced accordingly as well.

We all remember the 1DX right?

This body, if true, won't be less than $4-4500. My guess.

 

Btw there are rumors already of the 5D4.

That one will be slightly more MP than the current 5D3 but catered more to low light and sports shooters.

Rumors say August for announcement.

 

Also says that 5Ds will not have 4k video, but the 5D4 will.....

 

Oh right there's that too.

 

Hmmm thinking about it, the 5D3 is 22mp right?

The slight bump could mean 24mp.

Similar Sony sensor as in the A72?

 

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$3000 for an 11-24 f4 lens?

Didn't Canon just release the 16-35 f4 for $1200???

 

 

well it's supposed to have some new technologies allowing it to have low distortion etc. And being a L it's gonna have great IQ. Also maybe they are trying to limit the audience, who knows.

 

 

The 16-35 is getting RAVES. Guys are selling their 2.8 lenses and replacing them with this f4.

IDK what this 11-24 f4 has in store, but it better be a magic lens for that kind of cash.

 

5mm difference in the wide end is a big difference.

 

I sold my Zeiss 16-35mm F2.8 and later picked up the Sigma 12-24mm DG HSM II and don't regret it a single bit

 

5mm is quite a difference in focal length. But, I'm not understanding the $1800 price increase over a lens that was just released and is also an f4 lens.

 

why?

 

11-24 is an unprecedented focal range for a non-fisheye L series lens and I think Canon is pricing it up based on that. Also the lens has new technology suited to maximize and showcase the 5Ds resolution and I think that's another factor for the markup. Is it a high price, well sure lol.

 

Its sharper corner to corner and has less distortion. It also has IS.

 

Ah ok. But you still lack the 2.8 that's helpful in astrophotography... Guessing that the newer bodies are so good with higher ISO that it probably doesn't even matter anymore.

 

Its a line they try and sell...and with still photography you can get away with it a little...but I still find that the extra stop of a 2.8 to be a big deal.

But it would probably require bigger elements, more glass and way more money.

 

There are other options for astro-photography if that's what you're after.

Tokina, Samyang...etc.

 

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