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thats Tesla problem that they cannot seemless transition between old and new. which it isnt really new as it will be same unrefined junk with poor built that will not stand test of time on pot holes. I am still waiting for you to show video of Model X entering truck when its new.
Audi E Tron has not problem continue production both RHD and LHD drive models. strong industrial skills
no matter the speed and wheel size. it always show its refinement noise suppression and comfort.
At higher speeds only 6 mile range difference between Model X and Audi E Tron.
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/audi/e-tron/engines On the open road the e-tron impresses with incredible refinement, too. In some EVs, the lack of any engine drone makes wind and road noise even more conspicuous, but not so the Audi. It’s incredibly hushed - especially when fitted with the optional acoustic side windows - making a 70mph cruise feel more like 50.
It’s comfortable, too, thanks in part to the standard air suspension system, which can cycle through various settings and levels of suppleness. Even over twisty, bumpy roads, it manages to glide over surfaces that many other cars would thump across. Both 20 and 21-inch options are available, and both deliver similarly impressive levels of comfort.
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/audi/e...c-car-showdown Either way, the discrepancy between the NEDC-correlated Tesla and the WLTP-tested Audi is brought to a close on a motorway blast. At higher speeds, expect the Tesla to return around 180 miles of real-world range, with the Audi a little behind on 174 miles. Both cars can muster more than 200 miles of real-world range on a single charge, in a less taxing mix of environments.
The Tesla is the noisier SUV, and the silence of the electric motor is replaced by tyre roar and bodywork creaks. In addition, it seems harder to direct; the imprecise chassis and explosive powertrain make it more difficult to drive really accurately.
Superior steering and ride quality, consistent performance, heavy on tech and impeccably finished. In everyday use the Audi is the better choice, but it definitely lacks the Tesla’s thrilling edge.
So after Joe Biden snubbed Tesla at the White House EV day where they pretended Tesla didn’t exist, we learned that the person he chose to act as a safety adviser for the NHTSA, Missy Cummings, is publicly and vehemently anti Tesla. She follows and interacts with Tesla short sellers, and she’s also on the board of a LIDAR company
Here's a reminder that I "deluded asshole" told Sam over a year ago to put all his money into Tesla stock, when it was at $278 (stock split-adjusted), he said it was a "terrible move", TSLA is now at $865. If Sam had put $50,000 into TSLA stock when I told him to last year instead of buying a Model Y he'd have enough money to buy 3 of them by now. Maybe that's why he's so bitter and now putting a bunch of money into Rivian
Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
This is the best video I’ve seen that explains my thoughts on why I’m all in on Tesla.
their stock was around $300 ($60 split adjusted) when this video was released now it’s almost $1400 ($280 split-adjusted). Imagine how much more money you’d have if you listened to me when I was putting every dollar I could into Tesla when it was dropping down to $200 ($40 split-adjusted).
i think there’s a good chance they post a profit for Q2 which means they would qualify for the S&P. It’s not to late to invest, and I’ve been saying for a while put all your money into Tesla, I did. I’m doing pretty pretty pretty good
Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
I put all of my savings into Tesla when it was dropping down to $200 ($40 split-adjusted). I’m still in hoping for s&p inclusion soon
Originally Posted by SamDoe1
Even though it worked out well for you, this was a terrible move that could have just as easily ended in disaster.
Originally Posted by biker
Some said the same thing about Bitcoin.
Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
LOL no
“Diversification is protection against ignorance. It makes little sense if you know what you are doing.”
― Warren Buffett
I did a lot of research, I’m a skeptical person, I know about cognitive biases and tried to counteract them, and I can tell the difference between a logical and illogical argument. Tesla haters had few decent counter points and over time all of the were debunked. I’ve spent most of the past decade on this forum debunking climate deniers, my favorite book is merchants of doubt, I’ve become good at detecting FUD.
Governments worldwide are pushing the industry towards EVs and the younger generations want them, Tesla has the technical lead in basically every component of an EV, they’re years ahead of the competition, and the have the brand image, and can attract the best talent in the world. It’s clear to see they have everything to dominate the industry in the future, and their competition haven’t produced anything technically competitive for a similar price.
roflwaffles, you are an idiot of the highest order.
I put a crap ton of money into TSLA a LONG time ago. So much so that I bought a Tesla in cash unlike you. Though I didn't need to sell any shares to do that so...sorry you're poor?
^ word of advice, make it simpler or you lose the readers after a few sentences - BTW, posting tweets, is not so friendly to the bandwidth challenged.
So... the only thing I got out of that whole mess of tweets was that "they" know better than a Engineering Ph.D and Director of Robotics at one of the most prestigious universities because they are ... $TSLA shareholders? Got it.
So... the only thing I got out of that whole mess of tweets was that "they" know better than a Engineering Ph.D and Director of Robotics at one of the most prestigious universities because they are ... $TSLA shareholders? Got it.
I think you missed the point. She is apparently the head of the judging panel examining autonomous software and is openly and unashamedly showing a bias. I’m not judging her credentials and qualifications. She looks like she is very well qualified for the job and I’m fine with that.
How inappropriate this would be if this were a murder trial and the judge / jury continue to announce their one sided bias before the trial even starts? Are such things even allowed? I’m confused.
and all the videos, tweets and articles you quoted so far to promote Tesla propaganda are not without bias?
Yes I am also confused.
I remember a few months back Stunna quoted the head of engineer WORKS AT TESLA, PAID BY TESLA and HELP to PRODUCE TESLA said certain components in the Tesla are best of the best and better than anything else out there.
I mean No shit.. what else is he gonna say? Bias much?
Stunna claimed I dont believe in science and facts
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I think you missed the point. She is apparently the head of the judging panel examining autonomous software and is openly and unashamedly showing a bias. I’m not judging her credentials and qualifications. She looks like she is very well qualified for the job and I’m fine with that.
How inappropriate this would be if this were a murder trial and the judge / jury continue to announce their one sided bias before the trial even starts? Are such things even allowed? I’m confused.
She's "showing a bias" because you disagree with what she was saying. If it was flipped around you'd want to throw a ticker tape parade.
My only point of contention is her openly tweeting one sided bias while obviously heading a supposedly impartial committee looking into the matter. I’m completely fine with her appointment otherwise.
Well I’m not the only one disagreeing with her tweets. There’s a change.org petition circulating around.
The issue again is not about autopilot or any other autonomous driving system. The issue is about one person sitting on the board of the rival company, releasing safety concerns about this one particular system when starting an NHTSA investigation while collecting money from the rival company ($400,000 per year from what I read).
My only point of contention is her openly tweeting one sided bias while obviously heading a supposedly impartial committee looking into the matter. I’m completely fine with her appointment otherwise.
Well I’m not the only one disagreeing with her tweets. There’s a change.org petition circulating around.
Tesla stans are always down to protest. At the end of the day, she seems to be more anti Elon than anti Tesla. I'd rather have someone who is critical of things on a safety board than someone like your or Stunna who would let anything go if Elon whispered sweet nothings in your ear.
Originally Posted by Comfy
The issue again is not about autopilot or any other autonomous driving system. The issue is about one person sitting on the board of the rival company, releasing safety concerns about this one particular system when starting an NHTSA investigation while collecting money from the rival company ($400,000 per year from what I read).
Rival company? How the hell is some random company from Sweden that I've never heard of a rival for Tesla, Intel, or any of the others mentioned? If you're worried about this company being a "rival" then Tesla is really in dire straits.
Tesla stans are always down to protest. At the end of the day, she seems to be more anti Elon than anti Tesla. I'd rather have someone who is critical of things on a safety board than someone like your or Stunna who would let anything go if Elon whispered sweet nothings in your ear.
Rival company? How the hell is some random company from Sweden that I've never heard of a rival for Tesla, Intel, or any of the others mentioned? If you're worried about this company being a "rival" then Tesla is really in dire straits.
That is a Lidar maker in case you are not aware. And Lidars are rivals to Tesla as Elon and lidar makers have traded barbs multiple times in past.
As I already said, I have no problems with her bias against Elon Musk and it is good to be critical in this case. But what she is tweeting and collecting money from rivals sounds like conflict of interests to me.
That is a Lidar maker in case you are not aware. And Lidars are rivals to Tesla as Elon and lidar makers have traded barbs multiple times in past.
As I already said, I have no problems with her bias against Elon Musk and it is good to be critical in this case. But what she is tweeting and collecting money from rivals sounds like conflict of interests to me.
What production vehicle is equipped with Lidar? You're calling it a rival when they don't even operate in the same realm.
Also, you're feigning outrage that an Engineering and Brain Sciences professor (and director of the Duke University Humans and Autonomy Laboratory and Duke Robotics) is on the board of a company that makes Lidar components?
I don't see bias in her statements. She has concerns over the use and implementation of existing self-driving systems. Read her testimony from the 2016 hearing with the Senate Commerce Committee.
What production vehicle is equipped with Lidar? You're calling it a rival when they don't even operate in the same realm.
Also, you're feigning outrage that an Engineering and Brain Sciences professor (and director of the Duke University Humans and Autonomy Laboratory and Duke Robotics) is on the board of a company that makes Lidar components?
I don't see bias in her statements. She has concerns over the use and implementation of existing self-driving systems. Read her testimony from the 2016 hearing with the Senate Commerce Committee.
Would you be okay if a judge in a murder trial does the same, has financial interests in one of the parties and makes remarks publicly. I have no concerns with her academic and other abilities. All I say is she should come clean and act responsibly, maybe disclose or end her financial agreement/ board position with the lidar company, and people will
be more accepting.
Lidar and FSD are both emerging technologies and may not exist is current cars but imminent. It is what it is.
Disclaimer: I don’t even know if this exchange really happened or the context of it. May be they were joking, may be not. But this is unacceptable in her position.
The only silver lining I see is that she seems to have exited Twitter.
Bruh that's not her account. After the story blew up she deleted all of her "problematic" tweets, then she took her account private, and yesterday she just deleted her account altogether
Tesla again raise the prices. very long wait time. 9 month wait for cheapest model with 262 range.
let see at what price German made Model Y costs. i think it will cost closer to Model X price of Fremont.
Hertz Global Holdings, barely four months out of bankruptcy, placed an order for 100,000 Teslas in the first step of an ambitious plan to electrify its rental-car fleet, according to people with knowledge of the matter.
It’s the single-largest purchase ever for electric vehicles and represents about $4.2 billion of revenue for Tesla, according to the people, who asked not to be identified because the information is private. While car-rental companies typically demand big discounts from automakers, the size of the order implies that Hertz is paying close to list prices.
The cars will be delivered over the next 14 months, and Tesla’s Model 3 sedans will be available to rent at Hertz locations in major U.S. markets and parts of Europe starting in early November, the people said. Customers will have access to Tesla’s network of superchargers, and Hertz is also building its own charging infrastructure, they said.
The electrification plan, which eventually will encompass almost all of Hertz’s half-million cars and trucks worldwide, is the company’s first big initiative since emerging from bankruptcy in June. And it signals that Hertz’s new owners, Knighthead Capital Management and Certares Management, are intent on shaking up an industry dominated by a handful of large players who are typically slow to change.
Tesla shares surged as much as 4.3% in premarket trading in New York, continuing the automaker’s push toward a $1 trillion valuation. There was no early movement in Hertz, which trades over the counter ahead of its relisting on the Nasdaq Stock Market.
By locking up so much of Tesla’s production — the order is equivalent to about 1/10 of what the automaker can currently produce in a year — Hertz may box out rivals from copycatting the strategy. Hertz also is breaking with tradition by paying full price for well-appointed cars rather than the typical base-model, heavily discounted sedans that populate rental lots.
A spokesman for Hertz declined to comment. Tesla didn’t immediately reply to a request for comment.
In 2020, General Motors was Hertz’s biggest car and truck supplier, followed by Nissan and Ford.
Teslas, with zero tailpipe emissions, will appeal to rental customers who want a green option or those eager to try out a battery-powered vehicle. Hertz may look to EVs because they’re less expensive to maintain and refuel, and they typically don’t lose as much value in the resale market as vehicles with internal combustion engines.
Earlier this month, Knighthead and Certares brought on Mark Fields, the former chief executive officer of Ford, as interim CEO of Hertz. They’ve also hired Tom Brady, the seven-time Super Bowl-winning quarterback, to star in Hertz ads showcasing the new Teslas, the people said.
Along with the Tesla rollout, Hertz, the biggest U.S. car-rental company after Enterprise, is embarking on a broader revamp of its business around mobility and digitization, the people said. One component of that will be expedited rental bookings on the Hertz app.
10-19-2021, 05:40 PM
you are praising Audi? 
