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Old 03-16-2012, 04:44 PM
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^ most of those homos who drive miatas probably have bigger balls than you
Umm, how would you know if this is a true statement? I mean, were there inspections involved?
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Old 03-16-2012, 05:48 PM
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^ most of those homos who drive miatas probably have bigger balls than you
That's some serious right there.



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Kinda finding myself intrigued by this car, but the standard nav + other crap it sounds like they insist on putting in the Subaru turns me off. Maybe the Scion version is the way to go.
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Not so "limited"?

Previous reports suggested that production would be quite limited for the all-new and upcoming Subaru BRZ, as well as the Toyota FT-86 (global markets) and Scion FR-S (North America), but now it appears that there may be a higher volume of these coupes heading from the factory than previously anticipated.

This shift comes straight from Yasuyuki Yoshinaga, president of Subaruís parent company, Fuji Heavy Industries, which stated intentions to produce 100,000 examples of the rear-wheel drive coupe (the same plant is producing all three versions of the car) in the first year of production at the same plant located in the Gunma Prefecture, Japan, according to Yahoo News via enthusiast blog FT86Club.

To date, Toyota says it has about 7,000 orders, which accounts for seven times the monthly sales target, while Subaru is reporting 2,500 orders, or just over 5.5 months worth of hoped sales. To help meet that demand the plant intends to produce 5,000 cars a month to start with, with a possibility for more ramp-up down the road if demand remains strong.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/subaru-b...it-100000.html
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Originally Posted by JS + MS3 View Post
People who get a Miata with AT = homo

It should be the same for this car.

Hmmm... I guess I should go break the news to my gf now.

I would trade mine in for a MT if it wasn't a DD and most of my driving wasn't stop and go traffic 5x a week.


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I think you can still have fun in this car with the auto with paddle shifters.


Fun factor is subjective, so the blanket statement of manual = fun is invalid.
Its how you drive the car that makes all the difference.

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If Scion really does put those shitty as tires on 86, that will be fking stupid. I don't think Scion would do such a thing though.
you do know that the prius tires are going on ALL variations of this car. BRZ, gt86,frs.

According to toyobaru the car is set up in a way that even with these tires it can do great things. They want to prove that they can get it to handle well without spectacular tires, and yes it also keeps costs down

So when you replace tires with much better ones the car will be that much better.
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EPA numbers were released 22/30 for manual
and auto was 25/34 i believe.

I doubt whoever gets this car will get that lol or if you do, you're putting the car to shame!
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^I honestly would've expected better mileage out of a 4-banger. Those numbers are barely better than the V6's from Ford and Dodge. If a V6 making just over 300hp gets 31mpg highway, I'd expect a four cylinder to be better than 34.
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I havent seen many boxer engines that get good gas mileage

But, those V6s that get 31 on the highway usually are geared for it and have cylinder deactivation.
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^I honestly would've expected better mileage out of a 4-banger. Those numbers are barely better than the V6's from Ford and Dodge. If a V6 making just over 300hp gets 31mpg highway, I'd expect a four cylinder to be better than 34.
I think they also have tall gearing too, something the toyobaru is missing?

Yea the numbers aren't exceptional coming from a 4 banger. Maybe they just didnt have mileage in mind really. Autoblog did note that its better than the Mx-5 and similar to the gen coupe.
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I havent seen many boxer engines that get good gas mileage

But, those V6s that get 31 on the highway usually are geared for it and have cylinder deactivation.
Don't know, don't follow too much Subaru stuff.

V6's with cylinder deactivation? Link?



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I think they also have tall gearing too, something the toyobaru is missing?

Yea the numbers aren't exceptional coming from a 4 banger. Maybe they just didnt have mileage in mind really. Autoblog did note that its better than the Mx-5 and similar to the gen coupe.
I'm sure; it's all in the gearing.

While mileage isn't something they probably had in mind, in my head, I expect significant differences between 4's, 6's, and 8's. I wouldn't expect it to get over 40 like a Focus or Corolla, but I'd still think it should be closer to 40 than 30.
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Yea, I noticed that the MX5s was only 21/28, kinda crappy given the size of the car.
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Originally Posted by chill_dog View Post
V6's with cylinder deactivation? Link?
Actually, I dont think the Ford has it, but Dodge does, so does GM. It seems to be on their V8s though.

The 31mpg rating on the Charger is with the 8 speed auto though.
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Ford EcoBoost?
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Does the EcoBoost have cylinder deactivation?
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gearing + boxer engine = lower MPG
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Not all 4-cylinder engines = great fuel economy. There's a big difference between say, a Corolla and an S2000. This car is closer to an S2000.
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aaaaaannnddd

$24,930




for the scion version.
http://www.scion.com/
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aaaaaannnddd

$24,930




for the scion version.
http://www.scion.com/
In a 6spd.

25,300 for the 6spd AT with paddles.

I know some people who went to a test event for the FRS over the weekend as they put it through an autoX course.

I still like the Subie version better.

I think both of these cars will sell VERY well.
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I was expecting the scion to be a ltl lowerl, I guess we can say that subaru will be at least 28k like it was estimated before?
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I'm sure for the top-o-the-line Subaru version you can count on tacking on another $3-4k.
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in a 6spd.

25,300 for the 6spd at with paddles.

I know some people who went to a test event for the frs over the weekend as they put it through an autox course.

I still like the subie version better.

I think both of these cars will sell very well.
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I was told that premium brz will be at around 26k and limited will be 28k
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I like the pricing on them!

$28k for a loaded BRZ isn't bad at all to me.

Still prefer BRZ to FRS for sure!
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for 28 you can get a fully loaded v6 mustang with sport suspension. it will outhandle an m3 and get better mpg than this.

phee, who wants an fr-s but is taking an objective approach
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Not necessarily outhandle an M3. Outhandle a 335i, maybe. A 5.0 GT will produce the same numbers around a track that the M3 does, but a good part of it is from the torque. The only parts where a GT is slightly slower is the bumpy/uneven transition sections where the live axle can't keep up with an IRS.
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I'm sure for the top-o-the-line Subaru version you can count on tacking on another $3-4k.
I dont think there's gonna be many options, the car itself standard will have more standards than the FRS to differentiate its self like navi and such. I think there's gonna be a sports option that adds body trim like the wing and a few other things, thats it really
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for 28 you can get a fully loaded v6 mustang with sport suspension. it will outhandle an m3 and get better mpg than this.

phee, who wants an fr-s but is taking an objective approach
With speed limit 112mph and "lightweight drivetrain"? No thx.
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Not necessarily outhandle an M3. Outhandle a 335i, maybe. A 5.0 GT will produce the same numbers around a track that the M3 does, but a good part of it is from the torque. The only parts where a GT is slightly slower is the bumpy/uneven transition sections where the live axle can't keep up with an IRS.
The only complaint that Randy Probst had of the 5.0, when comparing it back to back with the M3, was the shocks. The live axle was not nearly the problem that even he expected. Shocks can easily be replaced. Pretty good trade off for the $30K difference in price between the 5.0 and the M3.
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when are these things hitting dealer showrooms?
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Do you guys usually compare a Mustang V6 to a Miata? Because that's pretty stupid, imo.
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New promotional shots of the BRZ here: http://www.netcarshow.com/subaru/2013-brz/
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Heres one thing that Im a bit leary about.

Scion dealers have to sign an agreement with Toyota that they cannot and will not mark up any of the cars. They make all their money on the accessories. If they do, they risk losing their dealership license.

Subaru, as far as I know, doesnt have that agreement with their dealers. Im scared to see if there will be any mark ups on these.
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Road test form MT
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ed_first_test/
I want this car!!
The only thing that can stop me is practicality... which is a big one.

I'm kinda surprised by all its got. IIRC the frs seems lightly equipped compared to this. And there is really only one option.

To be more specific, the BRZ Limited, which adds leather/Alcantara upholstery, dual-zone automatic climate control, heated seats, foglamps, a rear spoiler, and push-button start with keyless entry for roughly $2000 over the base Premium. And the Premium isn't so base, what with standard HID headlamps, navigation, Bluetooth phone and audio, a leather-wrapped shift knob and steering wheel, and a Torsen limited-slip differential.

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz1pxlOfS1k
this seems like a much better deal than the scion and I think it shouldnt, well hopefully it wont start over 26k including destination.
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^^^From what I've read, as well, the Subaru is the way to go if you want a nicer interior and a few more creature comforts.
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