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Not Subaru, too
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You think the 2017 will finally support CarPlay/Android auto?

Subaru has been listed as a supporter for CarPlay but no cars have it
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You think the 2017 will finally support CarPlay/Android auto?

Subaru has been listed as a supporter for CarPlay but no cars have it
At the keynote yesterday, Tim Cook used the term "Every" to describe which car brands are supporting Carplay.

It's ridiculous. Every car brand is planning one model you probably can't buy to maybe get CarPlay.
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well alot of the newer models are bringing them out. it takes time.
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You think the 2017 will finally support CarPlay/Android auto?

Subaru has been listed as a supporter for CarPlay but no cars have it
Originally Posted by kurtatx View Post
At the keynote yesterday, Tim Cook used the term "Every" to describe which car brands are supporting Carplay.

It's ridiculous. Every car brand is planning one model you probably can't buy to maybe get CarPlay.
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well alot of the newer models are bringing them out. it takes time.
Also new, multimedia features including standard Apple CarPlay™ and Android Auto™ and standard Near Field Communication connectivity debut on Impreza.

Well hopefully the 2017 BRZ will get it!
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interesting.

205HP 156lb-ft torque.
Shorter gearing in the gearbox
upgraded chassis and suspension

manual limited models have an optional performance package
adds brembo brakes
SACHS performance shock absorbers and 17inch black aluminum wheels


sport mode renamed to track mode
new 4.2 inch display that displays performance metrics including lateral and braking g’s, steering angle, and lap times.
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i like it


http://www.subaru.com/2017-brz

June 12, we get more details.

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looks nice.
I like the new headlight and tails.

The only thing it needs is more power... just a little bit more. (not just 5hp more tho)
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo View Post
looks nice.
I like the new headlight and tails.

The only thing it needs is more power... just a little bit more. (not just 5hp more tho)
if it was 225-230... or 180ish torque


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Not bad, not enough to sway me away from an ND Miata though.

I do like the new spoiler design.
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spy shots didnt include any hood vents for top mount intercooler...most likely no increase in power
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if it was 225-230... or 180ish torque


then just mod it a bit and you'll get there
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No, I'd rather be stock

i cant afford it anyways
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spy shots didnt include any hood vents for top mount intercooler...most likely no increase in power
Maybe it's a front mount. There's plenty of room for the plumbing







In actuality, I doubt there will be forced induction. I would like to be proven wrong though, because the chassis can handle a lot more power. Another 50-70 hp makes the car very capable.
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E85 tune, header, and full exhaust will net you ~200 whp

It's fun enough, not enough to get in trouble. The only other sports car that I really yearn for now is a Cayman.
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I doubt it will have more power. It seems they are giving the car the "A-spec" treatment, that Acura does.

I I get the feeling that they spent their money developing a high revving NA engine in the first place, so going to boost now just doesn't bode well for their bottom line. I dunno. I could be completely wrong. But I won't be holding my breath.

also, why buy an OEM turbo BRZ/86, if you can just go with a kit from likely the huge aftermarket support that will ultimately net you way more than what Subaru or Toyota would offer. If they turbo it, it likely won't even exceed 250hp. Besides the warranty factor (which it seems the people buying this car don't exactly care about that all too much), in this case, I don't see a factory turbo option being that great.

it would've been much more fruitful if it was turbo'd right from the get go.
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This

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why buy an OEM turbo BRZ/86, if you can just go with a kit from likely the huge aftermarket support that will ultimately net you way more than what Subaru or Toyota would offer.
contradicts this

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it would've been much more fruitful if it was turbo'd right from the get go.

Maybe they're going to put upgraded STI tires on it.
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contradicts this




Maybe they're going to put upgraded STI tires on it.
No, I meant that they spent all this time and money developing this NA engine, now it doesn't make sense for them to go turbo.

It would've made more sense to just sell a turbo platform, right from the get go.

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Originally Posted by TacoBello View Post
also, why buy an OEM turbo BRZ/86, if you can just go with a kit from likely the huge aftermarket support that will ultimately net you way more than what Subaru or Toyota would offer. If they turbo it, it likely won't even exceed 250hp. Besides the warranty factor (which it seems the people buying this car don't exactly care about that all too much), in this case, I don't see a factory turbo option being that great.
superspeeders rob did a BRZ special where he said his buddy bought the brz at MSRP then spent another $20k to turbo it and other goodies...~$60k for a car that is worth like ~$15k.
no one will buy it, etcetera etcetera
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$20k to turbo it though?!
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$20k to turbo it though?!
holy chit, even worse....$30k in mods... LOL

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Yeah, if you go balls out, on everything. You can run stock internals with just a bit of boost, etc. For a fraction of that price.
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Honestly the stock motor (and transmission for that matter) aren't the most conducive to boost. It's as if Subaru and Toyota really didn't want people to run F/I. The engine bay is like an oven, hot air doesn't evacuate easily. I'm assuming it's for aerodynamics, but it makes it unreliable to drive the car bone stock on the track.

The FA20DIT is a different story.

It's played out, but a LS swap is simply more reliable and better. These guys have built the FA20 to road race reliably at 9k rpm and at ~20 psi. It's way more involved than it needs to be. They've been building and road racing Subaru motors for almost a decade. Then they decided to take it another route.

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2018 Subaru BRZ tS: Everything you need to know about Subaru's track-rat BRZ

2018 Subaru BRZ tS review: The grip package

Wings and things come at a cost on Subaru's sports coupe

When you find a great new driving road, or section of driving roads, within striking distance of your house it’s a good day. When you find said roads and happen to be driving one of the purest, most attainable sports cars on the planet, it’s a really good day.

It doesn’t take much, especially in southeastern Michigan where we’re pinned down by grid streets and poker-table-flat terrain, to perk my enthusiast senses up. Granted they were on alert because I was driving the $33,495, 2018 Subaru BRZ tS. I don’t want to go into too much detail on the wheres and whys, lest my neighbors go find this place and, as we say in Detroit, blow up the spot. But I will talk about the car.

The tS version of the BRZ takes everything that’s great about the base car and makes it excellent -- maybe even too good, if you like flinging the rear end around.

From our first drive:

“The new BRZ tS gets no extra power (sorry) but adds STI-tuned front and rear Sachs dampers and coil springs, new draw stiffeners that are supposed to improve steering response and 18-inch lightweight wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport tires. It also comes with an enormous manually adjustable carbon-fiber spoiler, and new front, rear and side underbody spoilers.”

So we’re still working with 205 hp, a solid amount for street driving, along with 156 lb-ft of torque. And we’re also still working with Subaru’s near-perfect short-throw six-speed manual transmission.

When you fire up the 2.0-liter flat four it sounds like a big weed whacker or a small jet ski. The engine vibrations penetrate the cabin, which is rare in modern cars. It goes with the raw nature of this car, as does the fact that the tach needle bounces as you shift gears.

It’s still not fast, exactly, but the BRZ has to be top five in the "Most Fun Car to Drive Legally on the Street" category. It’s a blast to rev it to 7,000 and shift as fast as you can. Since it’s so loud and windy in the cabin, it feels like you’re going fast -- you’re just...not.

‘Maybe a good thing,’ said my insurance company. And all that new grip with the tS package? Well, it sort of makes the car feel slower, though it surely isn’t.

The base BRZ comes with 17 x 7-inch wheels; the tS gets 18 x 7.5s. That, in addition to the tuned Sachs dampers, body bracing and coil springs, make this car stick to whatever version of road you have. The stock version is tail happy. With the traction control off you can just decide to light up the rears at basically any point in a turn. This tS makes you work for it. You have to get it all out of balance, then yank the wheel and stomp the gas to get it to slide. It would be perfect for a track day or autocross event, but it's a teeny bit less fun if you want to gently drift (in a safe, controlled environment, with a professional driver, of course).

It doesn’t feel much stiffer than the base BRZ to me, which makes it a serious contender for a daily driver. In fact, a friend does just that with his non-tS around Detroit without a hiccup, except for switching to winter tires when the temps drop. His wife does have an SUV, which admittedly helps with grocery-getting and people-moving. I would have no problem joining him with this tS, wing and all.

Around roundabouts, the tS sucks up the curbs and pulls you wherever you point the skinny, smooth leather steering wheel. I would like some texture in it, if I’m nitpicking, it feels a little cheap, but the electric power assist steering does a fantastic impression of a fully-hydraulic, old-school power steering setup. You can feel the tires on the pavement (and hear them) as you crank the wheel further off center.

The tS also comes with Brembo brakes (12.8-inch front discs, 12.4-inch rear), which make this 2,800-pound car feel like a 2,200-pound car. It’s the highest praise I can give and possibly my first concern when picking a track-day car.

If I’m throwing out a few complaints, I would ask for a more-aggressive seat package, even though this low car is already hard to get in and out of. A thicker steering wheel might be nice. The radio isn’t super loud, but the car is, especially with the windows halfway down on the expressway. Oh, and you get blinded at night by every SUV and crossover on the road because you’re so low to the ground, which isn't a complaint about the BRZ as much as it is all the SUVs and crossovers on the road.

The base BRZ Premium starts at $26,455 including destination. Add a few options and you might be at $29K. If you want your BRZ super grippy, you’ll have to spend an extra $5,000 or so. If you want it drifty, save the cash and get one of the lower-spec models. You won’t be disappointed either way, especially when you find a hidden gem of a road to use it on.

ON SALE: Now
BASE PRICE: $34,355
AS TESTED PRICE: $34,355
POWERTRAIN: 2.0-liter H4, RWD, 6-speed manual
OUTPUT: 205 hp @ 7,000 rpm; 156 lb-ft @ 6,400 rpm
CURB WEIGHT: 2,842 lb
PROS: Oodles of grip at all speeds, amazing bang for the buck
CONS: More serious than the base car (which could be a 'pro' depending on your tastes)
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BASE PRICE: $34,355
AS TESTED PRICE: $34,355
POWERTRAIN: 2.0-liter H4, RWD, 6-speed manual
OUTPUT: 205 hp @ 7,000 rpm; 156 lb-ft @ 6,400 rpm
CURB WEIGHT: 2,842 lb
PROS: Oodles of grip at all speeds, amazing bang for the buck
CONS: More serious than the base car (which could be a 'pro' depending on your tastes)
Base price:
Output (when considering base price):
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"When you fire it up, it sounds like a big weed whacker "

First thing I did on my car were to remove that dumb intake sound tube that goes into the cabin. Ah, so much quieter.








Then I put an intake and exhaust on, and then I had trouble talking to the backseat passenger.
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https://www.carscoops.com/2018/09/20...nsion-updates/

Subaru has unveiled an “improved” version of the BRZ in Japan.

While the model is coming up on its seventh anniversary, the car hasn’t been forgotten despite its modest sales figures. That being said, the updates are minor and will likely go unnoticed by most buyers.

With that in mind, Subaru says the car has an improved aerodynamics as the BRZ has been outfitted with new fins which suppress air turbulence at the “rear of the body.” Elsewhere, engineers installed revised dampers which promise to improve stability and control. Besides the aforementioned updates, the JDM-spec BRZ RA-Racing has new seat belts and a modified roll bar.

Power is provided by a familiar 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine that produces up to 204 hp (152 kW / 207 PS) and 156 lb-ft (212 Nm) of torque. It can be connected to either a six-speed manual or an optional six-speed automatic transmission.

In Japan, pre-tax pricing starts at ¥2,480,000 ($22,238) for the entry-level BRZ R and tops out at ¥3,325,000 ($29,815) for the STI Sport with the automatic gearbox.

While Subaru took the time to update the model, the company only expects to sell around 160 units every month in its home market. The situation is significantly better in the United States as Subaru sold 4,131 BRZs in America last year. However, that number is still less than the 6,846 86 models that Toyota was able to sell in the country.

Speaking of the latter model, Toyota has already unveiled the 2019 86 and it features a new TRD special edition. It comes equipped with a number of performance upgrades including Brembo brakes, SACHS dampers and exclusive 18-inch alloy wheels wrapped in Michelin Pilot Sport 4 summer tires.

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https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/su...-going-happen/

Only yesterday we read a report that the Toyota 86 and Subaru BRZ ‘twins’ would not be replaced once their life cycle comes to an end. This struck us as odd, so we decided to investigate.

The good thing with the World Wide Web is that you can get tonnes and tonnes of information. The bad thing is that you can also get tonnes and tonnes of misinformation. Oftentimes, it’s hard to distinguish between the two, and even huge media outlets have, more than once, been duped.

After we talked to Toyota yesterday about whether the 86 was going to be axed, and receiving an immediate reply that this is totally false, we thought we ought to chat with Subaru, too, and find out their plans about the BRZ.

Subaru USA spokesman Ron Kinno’s response was swift and leaves no room for interpretation:

“We do not endorse this report coming from Japan’s Best Car”, he told CarScoops. “We are moving ahead with a next-generation Subaru BRZ, but have no further details at this time.”

This is indeed good news for petrolheads who, due to dwindling demand (and sales), have little choice when it comes to a fun to drive compact sports car. People might cry ‘badge engineering!’ and, for the most part, they are correct, but considering the low sales volumes, as the sports car has also become a victim of SUVs, a joint project is the only way to roll out such a model without losing money.

Kinno’s answer might also hint that Toyota and Subaru will, once again, cooperate on the replacements of their compact coupes. After all, the 86 is manufactured at Subaru’s Gunma assembly plant alongside the BRZ, and it would not make sense for any of the two automakers to develop the next-gen of their model alone.

Will they stick to the flat-four engine? Probably. Will they use a revised version of the current platform? Given the accolades it has amassed, that’s very likely. Will they, at last, fit an engine with more than 200 HP, as their customers want? If the redesign allows for its fitment without ruining the handling balance, we don’t see why not.

When can we expect to see them launch? Can’t answer that one, although we guess they shouldn’t be more than two or three years away.
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Put the WRX's engine in there and keep it RWD.... keep it under $30k..... Done.... it would not sell like hot cakes but 100% guaranteed better than what it is right now.

At the time... you can get 80% of the performance of the new supra at 50% of the cost!!!

But who will buy Supra anymore if Toyota's next AE86 is good enough? um...
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