Pontiac: Solstice News
07-09-2005, 09:59 AM
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Insurance costs for this one will be high. A small front end end willl have to replace the entire front end.
I beleive those are 18's it's sitting on. with all of that sidewall it loooks like 20's could easily fit.
Like the looks but the Sky looks so much better!
I beleive those are 18's it's sitting on. with all of that sidewall it loooks like 20's could easily fit.
Like the looks but the Sky looks so much better!
07-09-2005, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
This would seem like the perfect incentive for dodge to build the razor.
07-09-2005, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by titan
250HP+6sp stick+RWD in this car equals what Pontiac should be in it's essence.
07-09-2005, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by titan
I disagree, to an extent. The can create great looking sedans. The problem is, they get scared to pull the trigger. Look at the G6 concept!!! Then look at the production. 
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07-09-2005, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
Concepts mean nothing if they aren't built and that shows oh so clear with the xlr vs cien, and the sts is even a weak attempt at cts styling...
07-09-2005, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by titan
I'm not going to argue styling. Again, I don't find it that hot. I know I'm in the minority... appartently the masses love it's looks. That's fine.
It is not exactly "good looking" in the sense of a 360 or a DB7. However, it has PRESENCE. It looks substantial. More substantial than its price suggests.
Better?
07-09-2005, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by bl^5
Like the looks but the Sky looks so much better!
07-09-2005, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
You forgot to add the "curb weight" in the equation above
The Soltstice has it all.
07-09-2005, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
I dont think it's a matter of being scared as it is a matter of lack of ability to execute flawlessly. Like Toyota and others. Lack of the ability to execute is the number one "killer" of great companies of the modern times. That's what's being happening at GM for about 35 years now.
07-09-2005, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
Maybe this will help both of you define the looks of the 300.
It is not exactly "good looking" in the sense of a 360 or a DB7. However, it has PRESENCE. It looks substantial. More substantial than its price suggests.
Better?
It is not exactly "good looking" in the sense of a 360 or a DB7. However, it has PRESENCE. It looks substantial. More substantial than its price suggests.
Better?
07-10-2005, 07:02 PM
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Wow, I think it looks great! I saw that exact car on the road a few weeks ago...I had to do a double take. It looks even better in person!
It looked at like 350z at first glance but then i was like.. umm what is that. Then Jen told me what it was.
I think its a sharp looking car, wonder how it drives!
07-11-2005, 04:48 AM
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I like it. 
07-15-2005, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
Maybe this will help both of you define the looks of the 300.
It is not exactly "good looking" in the sense of a 360 or a DB7. However, it has PRESENCE. It looks substantial. More substantial than its price suggests.
Better?
It is not exactly "good looking" in the sense of a 360 or a DB7. However, it has PRESENCE. It looks substantial. More substantial than its price suggests.
Better?
Haha, I think in this case, presence is "good looking", the grill or rear by itself may not be stellar, but the car altogether with its short greenhouse is a " presence" on the road and I like it.
07-15-2005, 10:01 PM
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Nice pics, the car is nice looking, from the rear I think its up there with lotus but the front, while fine, it is a little too round. Overall it will be a nice cheaper alternative to the Saturn. The SKY will truely be an amazing car, picking up where this car leaves off.
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07-15-2005, 11:33 PM
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Cheap roadsters have a place in the market. Even the Miata is getting too expensive. Of course if I had the money I'd prefer an Honda S2000 or a BMW Z4, but those are steps up. The Solstice really has no competitors in its class except for the G6 convertible 
. Unless of course people don't cross shop them because one is two seats and the other is four. But I can see it happening.
. Unless of course people don't cross shop them because one is two seats and the other is four. But I can see it happening.
07-16-2005, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by youngTL
Cheap roadsters have a place in the market. Even the Miata is getting too expensive. Of course if I had the money I'd prefer an Honda S2000 or a BMW Z4, but those are steps up. The Solstice really has no competitors in its class except for the G6 convertible . Unless of course people don't cross shop them because one is two seats and the other is four. But I can see it happening.
. Unless of course people don't cross shop them because one is two seats and the other is four. But I can see it happening.
07-17-2005, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by youngTL
The Solstice really has no competitors in its class except for the G6 convertible .
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07-18-2005, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
I love the fact that it doesn't have that "cheap" look of many GM cars
07-20-2005, 03:20 PM
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On sale in early August
Solstice Set for Early August Sales - - By Paul A. Eisenstein -- Source: The Car Connenction
Reports of the Pontiac Solstice's supposed delay have proved somewhat exaggerated. Contrary to recent reports that the newPontiac roadster would be delayed until after the end of the critical summer season, the first two-seaters will actually roll into showrooms during the first week of August. "It really is coming this summer," said John Larson, general manager of the General Motors division. The first 1000 cars will go to the people who placed early orders as part of a promotion on Donald Trump's popular TV show, The Apprentice. Exactly how long it will take to deliver those cars is unclear, as GM intends a slow and cautious ramp-up of production.
Though Pontiac was able to hold the base price of the Solstice down below $20,000 by using many off-the-shelf components, the car also introduces some challenging new technology. That includes the first automotive use of hydroforming to shape large pieces of sheetmetal. In all, Larson told TheCarConnection.com that Pontiac has taken in nearly 9000 "sold orders" so far, which is well ahead of the company's expectations - and exceeds the total number of Miatas sold by Mazda last year. Pontiac officials are being cautious about sales and production plans, though insiders hint they'd like to get volumes up as high as 1500 roadsters a month, or close to 20,000 annually, but even at significantly lower volumes, they believe the Solstice will help kick-start the revival of the troubled Pontiac division.
Though Pontiac was able to hold the base price of the Solstice down below $20,000 by using many off-the-shelf components, the car also introduces some challenging new technology. That includes the first automotive use of hydroforming to shape large pieces of sheetmetal. In all, Larson told TheCarConnection.com that Pontiac has taken in nearly 9000 "sold orders" so far, which is well ahead of the company's expectations - and exceeds the total number of Miatas sold by Mazda last year. Pontiac officials are being cautious about sales and production plans, though insiders hint they'd like to get volumes up as high as 1500 roadsters a month, or close to 20,000 annually, but even at significantly lower volumes, they believe the Solstice will help kick-start the revival of the troubled Pontiac division.
07-20-2005, 05:21 PM
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Great news. Catching the end of the summer season is better than nothing. And 9K sold orders is great. I love that they threw in that that's more Miatas than Mazda sold all of last year, lol.
08-01-2005, 01:58 PM
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First Solstices to ship on Wednesday - - By Richard Truett - - SOurce: Automotive News
TRAVERSE CITY, Mich. -- Pontiac will ship the first batch of 2006 Pontiac Solstice roadsters to dealers on Wednesday, Aug. 3.
Dealers can sell the car as soon as it arrives, said Mark Reuss, General Motors executive director of vehicle architecture, on Monday at the Management Briefing Seminars.
Reuss said that in spite of media reports, there was no delay in shipping the Solstice to dealers.
He added that there were no last-minute problems with the Solstice and that the program will be profitable for GM. There is a waiting list of 10,000 customers for the Solstice, Reuss said.
Production of the Saturn Sky roadster, which shares its chassis with the Solstice, will begin later this summer, Reuss said.
GM will offer a detachable hardtop for the Solstice later this year, which can be bought via dealership parts departments.
Reuss said other variations of the Solstice are being considered for production. They include a high-performance model with a turbocharged engine, and a lightweight coupe with a fixed roof to appeal to club racers.
Dealers can sell the car as soon as it arrives, said Mark Reuss, General Motors executive director of vehicle architecture, on Monday at the Management Briefing Seminars.
Reuss said that in spite of media reports, there was no delay in shipping the Solstice to dealers.
He added that there were no last-minute problems with the Solstice and that the program will be profitable for GM. There is a waiting list of 10,000 customers for the Solstice, Reuss said.
Production of the Saturn Sky roadster, which shares its chassis with the Solstice, will begin later this summer, Reuss said.
GM will offer a detachable hardtop for the Solstice later this year, which can be bought via dealership parts departments.
Reuss said other variations of the Solstice are being considered for production. They include a high-performance model with a turbocharged engine, and a lightweight coupe with a fixed roof to appeal to club racers.
08-02-2005, 08:57 PM
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Sky, Solstice, and the new miata will make for some great and interesting competition.
All 3 seem like awesome cars.
All 3 seem like awesome cars.
08-03-2005, 09:06 AM
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This car is going to be a hit for GM. The interior is great for a GM vehicle(and per the competition) and it looks cool. Good work GM; lets see this type of work carry thru to other upcoming products.
08-09-2005, 10:24 AM
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First Solstice delivered
Car News briefs: first Pontiac Solstice delivered - - Source: Autoweek
Some 136 folks from around the country took delivery of their Pontiac Solstice roadsters Aug. 5 at General Motors’ world headquarters in Detroit. Clark and Shelly Brinton of Boise, Idaho, were the lucky recipients of the first retail car. Brinton told AutoWeek he was having the car shipped back home. Why not drive it? “That’s too many miles,” Brinton said. “Don’t want to chip the paint!”
Pontiac expects to fill all 10,000 pre-orders for the Solstice by December.
Some 136 folks from around the country took delivery of their Pontiac Solstice roadsters Aug. 5 at General Motors’ world headquarters in Detroit. Clark and Shelly Brinton of Boise, Idaho, were the lucky recipients of the first retail car. Brinton told AutoWeek he was having the car shipped back home. Why not drive it? “That’s too many miles,” Brinton said. “Don’t want to chip the paint!”
Pontiac expects to fill all 10,000 pre-orders for the Solstice by December.
08-09-2005, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
Some people are weary of getting the first model year of new generations of established cars.
This couple is getting the first car, in its first model year, of a brand new design...built by GM.
I'd be worried about driving it home too!
08-09-2005, 01:24 PM
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According to the JD Power Dependability Study here Pontiac got better marks than brands like Hyundai, Subaru, Volvo, Jaguar, Mercedes, Audi, etc.
According to the JD Power Dependability Study here Pontiac got better marks than brands like Hyundai, Subaru, Volvo, Jaguar, Mercedes, Audi, etc.
08-09-2005, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
LOL
According to the JD Power Dependability Study here Pontiac got better marks than brands like Hyundai, Subaru, Volvo, Jaguar, Mercedes, Audi, etc.
According to the JD Power Dependability Study here Pontiac got better marks than brands like Hyundai, Subaru, Volvo, Jaguar, Mercedes, Audi, etc.
08-09-2005, 03:18 PM
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These days, unless you're buying the lowest tier of cars, you're not going to get something that gives you constant problems unless you get a lemon.
The bar has definitely been raised over the last few years. It's hard to buy a POS these days from a quality standpoint. Of course the econoboxes are going to have lower grade materials and less features but nothing is going to leave you stranded at the side of the road.
08-09-2005, 04:26 PM
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Solstice owners will wish they waited for the Sky.
08-09-2005, 04:41 PM
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I wish I had waited for the Solstice or Sky, I regret buying my S2000 
Seriously though way to go GM, now, lets make it handle a little better and put some more juice behind it yeah?
Take the 18's off and put on 16" or 17" wheels and you have cheap track car (possibly)
Seriously though way to go GM, now, lets make it handle a little better and put some more juice behind it yeah?
Take the 18's off and put on 16" or 17" wheels and you have cheap track car (possibly)