Lexus: IS News
07-28-2005, 01:35 AM
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lots of info!
42k is pretty damn cheap for that type of lexus, cheaper than most german cars.
30k loaded for the IS250? Shit son... thats gonna sell like hotcakes. Unless it dies off like the IS300 did.
lots of info!
42k is pretty damn cheap for that type of lexus, cheaper than most german cars.
30k loaded for the IS250? Shit son... thats gonna sell like hotcakes. Unless it dies off like the IS300 did.
07-28-2005, 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by samkws
From the TL board:
Pricing
2006 IS250 (base model)
$ 27,585 - Manual - RWD
$ 28,955 - Automatic - E-Shift - RWD
$ 30,905 - Automatic - E-Shift - AWD
2006 IS350 (fully loaded)
$ 42,475 - Automatic - E-shift - RWD
sorry it's fully loaded, but still very steep since it's in USD, the price is very close to a 330i
Pricing
2006 IS250 (base model)
$ 27,585 - Manual - RWD
$ 28,955 - Automatic - E-Shift - RWD
$ 30,905 - Automatic - E-Shift - AWD
2006 IS350 (fully loaded)
$ 42,475 - Automatic - E-shift - RWD
sorry it's fully loaded, but still very steep since it's in USD, the price is very close to a 330i
07-28-2005, 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
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lots of info!
42k is pretty damn cheap for that type of lexus, cheaper than most german cars.
30k loaded for the IS250? Shit son... thats gonna sell like hotcakes. Unless it dies off like the IS300 did.
lots of info!
42k is pretty damn cheap for that type of lexus, cheaper than most german cars.
30k loaded for the IS250? Shit son... thats gonna sell like hotcakes. Unless it dies off like the IS300 did.
i am not a millionare....
07-28-2005, 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Thats 42k loaded. Lexus always has pricey options.. just dont get them all.
07-28-2005, 03:51 AM
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i donno... i mean its a good-ish price, but people look at that price for a Lexus and might just drive over to the BMW dealers instead... afterall the blue and white logo is still wayyy more attractive.
I think (i know i do) most car buyers has a psychological barrier at 40k. they want space or performance and loads of options . Hopefully Lexus would reconsider the pricing.
I think (i know i do) most car buyers has a psychological barrier at 40k. they want space or performance and loads of options . Hopefully Lexus would reconsider the pricing.
07-28-2005, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
30k loaded for the IS250? Shit son... thats gonna sell like hotcakes. Unless it dies off like the IS300 did.
I don't see the IS250 taking off, its underpowered.
07-28-2005, 06:34 AM
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I don't see the IS250 taking off, its underpowered.
But all the wanna-be's who are stretching their money will get them just to say they have a lexus... Much like the bimmer 318ti of the 90's and that benzo c230 (the hatch back ones)
The only difference is, the IS250 looks ALOT better. and when it comes down to it, you're still getting Lexus/Toyota quality.
07-28-2005, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
So is the 325 and TSX but they both sell well. 
I have to agree, I think. The people that will be buying these cars are more interested in the image than they are in the cars ultimate performance. I really wonder what that base 250 comes equipped with.
07-28-2005, 10:46 AM
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I wouldn't mind the 210 or so HP of the IS250. Sure it'd be nice to have the bigger engine just for kicks but for me I don't know if a couple more seconds in the quarter mile or from 0-60 is worth another 5-10K as I never use that much power driving to work.
07-28-2005, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by BadBadNeil
I wouldn't mind the 210 or so HP of the IS250. Sure it'd be nice to have the bigger engine just for kicks but for me I don't know if a couple more seconds in the quarter mile or from 0-60 is worth another 5-10K as I never use that much power driving to work.
07-28-2005, 11:01 AM
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The IS250 should be a great car and it's probably worth the money over the TSX. If it were available at the same time I was buying my TSX I probably would have got one.
07-28-2005, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
The IS250 should be a great car and it's probably worth the money over the TSX. If it were available at the same time I was buying my TSX I probably would have got one.
What do you base that opinion off?
And does that still stand true if the 06 TSX is suddenly pushing 220HP and 175lb-ft for 06?
07-28-2005, 11:08 AM
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http://www.colexusclub.com/article35.htm
It looks they backed off from specific prices. They did mention that the IS250 will start at near the current MSRP of the IS300 ($29,435)
At 12:00 pm EST at the 2005 New York International Auto Show, Lexus announced the final prices and transmission options for the second generation 2006 Lexus IS. Four models and prices were announced. The IS250 will have around 200 hp, 180ft-lb torque and will be available in RWD and AWD platforms. All IS models will have 17" and 18" wheels available.
IS250 RWD manual
IS250 RWD 6-speed sequential automatic
IS250 AWD 6-speed sequential automatic
IS350 RWD 6-speed sequential automatic
The IS350 is considered a halo vehicle for lexus. They said it will have upwards of 300 hp and 275 ft-lb torque. It will only come in RWD with a 6-speed paddle shift transmission.
CLICK ON "READ MORE..." FOR A TABLE OF SPECIFIC IS VALUES!
2007 GS450h RWD 3.5 V6 hybrid was said to have better performance than the V8 model. More than 300 hp. 0-60 in under 6 seconds. City and Highway MPG in high 20s (27-30 mpg).
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Commentary and Opinions:
It seems Lexus wanted more time to mull over the prices before making the final pricing announcement. They had mentioned how the IS250 MSRP will be close to the currrent MSRP of the IS300. This can mean that the entry level price is still around 28k or it may be around 30k. I would add $2,400 to the IS250 base models and am lost on the IS350 as the pricing seems in line with a fully loaded G35 and current 330i. Look at this article's figures for preliminary numbers. The lack of an intermediate sedan allows for higher base model pricing and allows for a little less internal competition for the halo model. Please note that the IS350's price is rumored to be in a fully configured model. If I were to guess, I would guess that the IS350 will be in the mid 30k range. Lexus obviously didn't want to release final prices because I'm sure they are still playing around with numbers. Maybe they're waiting for BMW's announcement on May 6th?l
It looks they backed off from specific prices. They did mention that the IS250 will start at near the current MSRP of the IS300 ($29,435)
At 12:00 pm EST at the 2005 New York International Auto Show, Lexus announced the final prices and transmission options for the second generation 2006 Lexus IS. Four models and prices were announced. The IS250 will have around 200 hp, 180ft-lb torque and will be available in RWD and AWD platforms. All IS models will have 17" and 18" wheels available.
IS250 RWD manual
IS250 RWD 6-speed sequential automatic
IS250 AWD 6-speed sequential automatic
IS350 RWD 6-speed sequential automatic
The IS350 is considered a halo vehicle for lexus. They said it will have upwards of 300 hp and 275 ft-lb torque. It will only come in RWD with a 6-speed paddle shift transmission.
CLICK ON "READ MORE..." FOR A TABLE OF SPECIFIC IS VALUES!
2007 GS450h RWD 3.5 V6 hybrid was said to have better performance than the V8 model. More than 300 hp. 0-60 in under 6 seconds. City and Highway MPG in high 20s (27-30 mpg).
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Commentary and Opinions:
It seems Lexus wanted more time to mull over the prices before making the final pricing announcement. They had mentioned how the IS250 MSRP will be close to the currrent MSRP of the IS300. This can mean that the entry level price is still around 28k or it may be around 30k. I would add $2,400 to the IS250 base models and am lost on the IS350 as the pricing seems in line with a fully loaded G35 and current 330i. Look at this article's figures for preliminary numbers. The lack of an intermediate sedan allows for higher base model pricing and allows for a little less internal competition for the halo model. Please note that the IS350's price is rumored to be in a fully configured model. If I were to guess, I would guess that the IS350 will be in the mid 30k range. Lexus obviously didn't want to release final prices because I'm sure they are still playing around with numbers. Maybe they're waiting for BMW's announcement on May 6th?l
07-28-2005, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by samkws
From the TL board:
Pricing
2006 IS250 (base model)
$ 27,585 - Manual - RWD
$ 28,955 - Automatic - E-Shift - RWD
$ 30,905 - Automatic - E-Shift - AWD
2006 IS350 (fully loaded)
$ 42,475 - Automatic - E-shift - RWD
sorry it's fully loaded, but still very steep since it's in USD, the price is very close to a 330i
Pricing
2006 IS250 (base model)
$ 27,585 - Manual - RWD
$ 28,955 - Automatic - E-Shift - RWD
$ 30,905 - Automatic - E-Shift - AWD
2006 IS350 (fully loaded)
$ 42,475 - Automatic - E-shift - RWD
sorry it's fully loaded, but still very steep since it's in USD, the price is very close to a 330i
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07-28-2005, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by dom
What do you base that opinion off?
And does that still stand true if the 06 TSX is suddenly pushing 220HP and 175lb-ft for 06?
And does that still stand true if the 06 TSX is suddenly pushing 220HP and 175lb-ft for 06?
-RWD
-Toyota/Lexus quality > Honda/Acura
-probably higher resale
Power isn't really that big of a deal to me for either car. Both are more than enough for scooting around town and commuting to work. If I wanted more power, I'd probably want a different car altogether like an STi.
07-28-2005, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
-6 cyl vs 4
-RWD
-Toyota/Lexus quality > Honda/Acura
-probably higher resale
Power isn't really that big of a deal to me for either car. Both are more than enough for scooting around town and commuting to work. If I wanted more power, I'd probably want a different car altogether like an STi.
-RWD
-Toyota/Lexus quality > Honda/Acura
-probably higher resale
Power isn't really that big of a deal to me for either car. Both are more than enough for scooting around town and commuting to work. If I wanted more power, I'd probably want a different car altogether like an STi.
-RWD - Meh, like you said for scooting around its not a must.
-Toyota/Lexus quality > Honda/Acura - I agree
-probably higher resale - I agree
But what will it cost equipped like a TSX?? I somehow can't see it being equal. Especially considering the current IS300's pricing in Canada.
07-28-2005, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by dom
But what will it cost equipped like a TSX?? I somehow can't see it being equal. Especially considering the current IS300's pricing in Canada.
07-28-2005, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by dom
-6 cyl vs 4 - Doesn't factor in if the 2.4 makes more power
-RWD - Meh, like you said for scooting around its not a must.
-Toyota/Lexus quality > Honda/Acura - I agree
-probably higher resale - I agree
But what will it cost equipped like a TSX?? I somehow can't see it being equal. Especially considering the current IS300's pricing in Canada.
-RWD - Meh, like you said for scooting around its not a must.
-Toyota/Lexus quality > Honda/Acura - I agree
-probably higher resale - I agree
But what will it cost equipped like a TSX?? I somehow can't see it being equal. Especially considering the current IS300's pricing in Canada.
The lack of torque steer that comes with having RWD would be nice.
Pricing wise, I guess it will be about $5k more than a TSX here. If the resale is a couple grand more when you sell it, then you're probably only looking at a $3K difference at the end of the day.
07-28-2005, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
-6 cyl vs 4
-RWD
-Toyota/Lexus quality > Honda/Acura
-probably higher resale
Power isn't really that big of a deal to me for either car. Both are more than enough for scooting around town and commuting to work. If I wanted more power, I'd probably want a different car altogether like an STi.
-RWD
-Toyota/Lexus quality > Honda/Acura
-probably higher resale
Power isn't really that big of a deal to me for either car. Both are more than enough for scooting around town and commuting to work. If I wanted more power, I'd probably want a different car altogether like an STi.
Just wanted to add..
Is250 has more torque
Lexus service is MUCH better
my guess is the lexus will handle better
07-28-2005, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Just wanted to add..
Is250 has more torque
Lexus service is MUCH better
my guess is the lexus will handle better
Is250 has more torque
Lexus service is MUCH better
my guess is the lexus will handle better
More Tq thats also pulling around 200 pounds more. The engines IMO are a wash as it stands although the TSX could gain an advantage in for the 06 MY.
Service is a no brainer.
Handling? we'll see.
07-28-2005, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by titan
What don't you like about the Grand Prix's exterior? Just the fact, coupe like c-pillar?
I hate when people say, "this car looks like that car, this part is similar to that car's part..." blah blah blah...
PEOPLE, its a freakin' car! EVERY car (i.e. sedan) has very similar shapes! They're bound to look somewhat the same!!!
Even the interior!
07-28-2005, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mantis23
Based on what I know about the IS350, that seems like a solid price to me.
What FDL said. Kick ass avatar. LOL
07-28-2005, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Just wanted to add..
Is250 has more torque
Lexus service is MUCH better
my guess is the lexus will handle better
Is250 has more torque
Lexus service is MUCH better
my guess is the lexus will handle better
As far as performance of the 250, Lexus can print whatever hp/tq numbers, but the only thing that really counts is how quick it moves.
07-29-2005, 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
6-speed auto.
As far as performance of the 250, Lexus can print whatever hp/tq numbers, but the only thing that really counts is how quick it moves.
As far as performance of the 250, Lexus can print whatever hp/tq numbers, but the only thing that really counts is how quick it moves.
07-29-2005, 11:50 AM
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New Edmunds' 06 IS350 full test. http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...line.promo.2.*
Again, they think the VDIM is too intrusive. And they didn't think the acceleration of the IS350 feel like 300hp.
Again, they think the VDIM is too intrusive. And they didn't think the acceleration of the IS350 feel like 300hp.
07-29-2005, 01:44 PM
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From the link above ^
Specs & Performance
Vehicle Top
Model Year: 2006
Make: Lexus
Model: IS 350
Style: N/A
Base Price: N/A
Price as Tested: N/A
Drive Type: RWD
Transmission Type: 6-speed manumatic
Displacement (liters): 3.5
Engine Type: V6
Horsepower (hp @ rpm): 306@6400
Torque (ft-lbs @ rpm): 277@4800
Braking System: 4-wheel disc w/ ABS, BrakeAssist and Electronic Brakeforce Distribution
Steering System: Speed-sensitive rack and pinion
Suspension Type (front): Double wishbone independent w/ stabilizer bar
Suspension Type (rear): Multilink independent w/ stabilizer bar
Tire Size (front): 225/40R18
Tire Size (rear): 255/40R18
Tire Brand: Dunlop
Tire Model: Sport Max
Curb Weight (lbs): 3527
Recommended Fuel: 91
Fuel Tank Capacity (gal): 17.17
EPA Fuel Economy (mpg): N/A
Edmunds Observed (mpg): N/A
Conditions for Testing Top
Temperature (Fahrenheit): 81
Humidity: N/A
Elevation (ft): 131
Wind: 1.2 mph
Performance Top
0 - 30 (sec): 2.7
0 - 45 (sec): 4.2
0 - 60 (sec): 6.1
0 - 75 (sec): 8.55
1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 14.23@99.82
30 - 0 (ft): 30.71
60 - 0 (ft): 123.02
Braking Rating (Excellent, Good, Average, Poor or Very Poor): Good
Slalom (mph): 64.1
Turning Circle (ft), curb-to-curb: N/A
Handling Rating (Excellent, Good, Average, Poor or Very Poor): Good
Db @ Idle: 44
Db @ Full Throttle: 77
Db @ 70 mph Cruise: 68
Acceleration: First gear is very short, and upshifts in manual mode could be quicker. Traction is not an issue unless you power brake, at which point it will light up the tires if the T/C is turned off. Upshifts occur at 6,500 rpm, which is the marked redline. We found it strange that the traction control defaults back to "on" each launch, or when the car goes above 10 mph.
Braking: Under hard braking we couldn't detect any ABS noise or vibration at all, and the pedal was stiff and confidence inspiring. It could be a tad more progressive, however. Stops were very straight with a minimum of front end dive and virtually no detectable fade.
Handling: The car will let you get a little sideways before intervening, but we would still prefer less electronic interference, or none at all. The steering is well weighted and the wheel itself feels good in terms of having a thick rim and some feedback, but it's not up to BMW standards. Body roll is present but well controlled. The IS 350 is very predictable at the limit, and the electonic brake control and stability programs do a good job bringing it back in line when things start to get loose, at the cost of some slalom speed.
Specifications Top
Length: 180.1
Width: 70.9
Height: 56.1
Wheelbase: 107.5
Legroom (front): 43.9
Legroom (rear): 30.6
Headroom (front): 39
Headroom (rear): 36.9
Maximum Seating Capacity: 5
Cargo Volume: 13.0 cu. Ft
Maximum Cargo Volume (rear seats down): 13.0 cu. Ft
Warranty Information Top
Bumper-to-Bumper: 4 years / 50,000 miles
Power Train: 6 years / 70,000 miles
Corrosion: 6 years / unlimited miles
Roadside Assistance: 4 years / unlimited miles
Scheduled Maintenance: N/A
Safety Information Top
Front Airbags: Standard
Side Airbags: Standard
Head Airbags: Standard
Antilock Brakes: Standard
Electronic Brake Enhancements: Standard
Traction Control: Standard
Stability Control: Standard
Rollover Protection: N/A
Emergency Assistance System: Optional
NHTSA Crash Test Driver: Not Tested
NHTSA Crash Test Passenger: Not Tested
NHTSA Crash Test Side Front: Not Tested
NHTSA Crash Test Side Rear: Not Tested
NHTSA Rollover: Not Tested
IIHS Offset: Not Tested
Vehicle Top
Model Year: 2006
Make: Lexus
Model: IS 350
Style: N/A
Base Price: N/A
Price as Tested: N/A
Drive Type: RWD
Transmission Type: 6-speed manumatic
Displacement (liters): 3.5
Engine Type: V6
Horsepower (hp @ rpm): 306@6400
Torque (ft-lbs @ rpm): 277@4800
Braking System: 4-wheel disc w/ ABS, BrakeAssist and Electronic Brakeforce Distribution
Steering System: Speed-sensitive rack and pinion
Suspension Type (front): Double wishbone independent w/ stabilizer bar
Suspension Type (rear): Multilink independent w/ stabilizer bar
Tire Size (front): 225/40R18
Tire Size (rear): 255/40R18
Tire Brand: Dunlop
Tire Model: Sport Max
Curb Weight (lbs): 3527
Recommended Fuel: 91
Fuel Tank Capacity (gal): 17.17
EPA Fuel Economy (mpg): N/A
Edmunds Observed (mpg): N/A
Conditions for Testing Top
Temperature (Fahrenheit): 81
Humidity: N/A
Elevation (ft): 131
Wind: 1.2 mph
Performance Top
0 - 30 (sec): 2.7
0 - 45 (sec): 4.2
0 - 60 (sec): 6.1
0 - 75 (sec): 8.55
1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 14.23@99.82
30 - 0 (ft): 30.71
60 - 0 (ft): 123.02
Braking Rating (Excellent, Good, Average, Poor or Very Poor): Good
Slalom (mph): 64.1
Turning Circle (ft), curb-to-curb: N/A
Handling Rating (Excellent, Good, Average, Poor or Very Poor): Good
Db @ Idle: 44
Db @ Full Throttle: 77
Db @ 70 mph Cruise: 68
Acceleration: First gear is very short, and upshifts in manual mode could be quicker. Traction is not an issue unless you power brake, at which point it will light up the tires if the T/C is turned off. Upshifts occur at 6,500 rpm, which is the marked redline. We found it strange that the traction control defaults back to "on" each launch, or when the car goes above 10 mph.
Braking: Under hard braking we couldn't detect any ABS noise or vibration at all, and the pedal was stiff and confidence inspiring. It could be a tad more progressive, however. Stops were very straight with a minimum of front end dive and virtually no detectable fade.
Handling: The car will let you get a little sideways before intervening, but we would still prefer less electronic interference, or none at all. The steering is well weighted and the wheel itself feels good in terms of having a thick rim and some feedback, but it's not up to BMW standards. Body roll is present but well controlled. The IS 350 is very predictable at the limit, and the electonic brake control and stability programs do a good job bringing it back in line when things start to get loose, at the cost of some slalom speed.
Specifications Top
Length: 180.1
Width: 70.9
Height: 56.1
Wheelbase: 107.5
Legroom (front): 43.9
Legroom (rear): 30.6
Headroom (front): 39
Headroom (rear): 36.9
Maximum Seating Capacity: 5
Cargo Volume: 13.0 cu. Ft
Maximum Cargo Volume (rear seats down): 13.0 cu. Ft
Warranty Information Top
Bumper-to-Bumper: 4 years / 50,000 miles
Power Train: 6 years / 70,000 miles
Corrosion: 6 years / unlimited miles
Roadside Assistance: 4 years / unlimited miles
Scheduled Maintenance: N/A
Safety Information Top
Front Airbags: Standard
Side Airbags: Standard
Head Airbags: Standard
Antilock Brakes: Standard
Electronic Brake Enhancements: Standard
Traction Control: Standard
Stability Control: Standard
Rollover Protection: N/A
Emergency Assistance System: Optional
NHTSA Crash Test Driver: Not Tested
NHTSA Crash Test Passenger: Not Tested
NHTSA Crash Test Side Front: Not Tested
NHTSA Crash Test Side Rear: Not Tested
NHTSA Rollover: Not Tested
IIHS Offset: Not Tested
