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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 08:58 AM
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Infiniti: M-Series news **Hybrid Revealed (page 34)**

Nissan says Fuga Tokyo concept will be next Infiniti M45


By KATHY JACKSON | Automotive News


The Nissan Fuga debuted at the Tokyo motor show.
TOKYO -- The Fuga show car on the Nissan stand at the Tokyo Motor Show will be the new Infiniti M45, sources confirm.

With a four-person seating capacity, the sporty-looking sedan shares a platform with the Infiniti G35 and FX45 and the Nissan 350Z. It will come with both six- and eight-cylinder engines and in rear-drive and all-wheel-drive versions.

The M45, which will debut at the end of 2004 as a 2005 model, is crucial to Infiniti's growth plans in the United States.

"When we replace the M, I'm expecting sales to rise," said Norio Matsumura, executive vice president of global sales and marketing for Nissan Motor Co. Ltd. "With the styling and roominess of the new M and also the quality interior, I put it in the first-tier luxury mode."

The show car featured a plush leather interior and telematics.

"For Infiniti, interior is very important," Matsumura said.

U.S. dealers sold only 468 M45s in September and 3,508 for the nine months ending Sept. 30.

Matsumura would not estimate the number of sales for the new M45, but he expects Infiniti sales to be about 100,000 in the United States this year and to be considerably higher with the arrival of the new M.

Infiniti sales were up 40.7 percent through September to 89,856. But its volume lagged luxury leader Lexus, which had sales of 186,009 for the same period.

Infinitis are sold only in the United States. Matsumura says he doubts the brand will go global, although Nissan President Carlos Ghosn was quoted in the Financial Times last week as saying the company was studying the possibility of extending Infiniti to Japan and Europe.

"It is my dream to make Infiniti global, but that is not a reality due to regulations, etc., around the world," Matsumura says. "You have to spend a lot of money."
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For info and pics of FUGA click here:
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...hreadid=117547
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 08:59 AM
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End of 2004?

Holy Shit Nissan is working quick! Wow! I am starting to be seriously impressed by Nissan at this point.
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 10:01 AM
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that Fuga looks great!
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 10:50 AM
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now the big queston, will it have a manual tranny available

Also, if its sharing a platform with those cars does this mean it will be smaller now, ala new TL? Isnt the current m45 on the same based as the Q?
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by sarlacc23
now the big queston, will it have a manual tranny available

Also, if its sharing a platform with those cars does this mean it will be smaller now, ala new TL? Isnt the current m45 on the same based as the Q?
Yes current M shares Q platform.

FOrget manual tranny. How about a sequential tranny?
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by gavriil
Yes current M shares Q platform.

FOrget manual tranny. How about a sequential tranny?
Cool. so it will be smaller which is awesome. But how much smaller, maxma sized? isnt the new maxima "based" of the 350z platform?

Question questions i know...

And no forget manual tranny, thats the only way id consider one
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 12:37 PM
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cool, I love that car
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 01:30 PM
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i love the m45 htey have now... but they priced it to high.. it should have been like 33,000 to start and topped out at like 42,000.. the car is awesome, its fast low to mid 14s stock.. very nice looking!!! my father would have gotten that car instead of the 04 max if it was alittle cheaper..
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 02:09 PM
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i hope they offer a v6, that would be another use for a still questionable 4.0vq. its uses the front midship platform like the other cars, but FR-L probably means its a longer wheelbase since they're claiming class leading interior room.

newer pic, looks fairly large
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 03:04 PM
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Well being based of the 350Z is a good/ bad thing. For one, it will be sporty we know (I wonder if a manual will be made?). On the other hand, if my GS was based of the Supra, hell no I would not buy it. I would buy a Supra.

The 5, E, GS are platform specific. At least the current M is based on the Q a more expensive and better car.
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 03:22 PM
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Infiniti is going in the right direction.
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 03:35 PM
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i don't see any relation to greatness by being platform specific, if anything sharing allows infiniti to put more into the car without necessarily having a rediculously high price. i wouldn't be surprised if a new q45 was built on the fm platform as well, then there will be the gtr, smart business.
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 04:13 PM
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they say the interior is important although the Fuga is a 4-seater ??

Cars in this category whould always have the center 5th seat.
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 05:22 PM
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damn

watch acura get left in the dust badly in the next few years
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 07:06 PM
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the cars hot and love the rear
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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 06:01 AM
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Originally posted by zamo
they say the interior is important although the Fuga is a 4-seater ??

Cars in this category whould always have the center 5th seat.
i believe rear bench seats and bucket seats are optional...like the new Maxima.
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Sources in Chicago confirmed that the 2005 Infiniti M45 will make its debut at the NY Auto Show in April.

Source: Autospies
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Old Feb 7, 2004 | 10:23 AM
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Infiniti just shoots itself in the foot with their re-sale. The old M45 will be a 20k vehicle next year. Sad. But a great deal.

I am very interested in how the M45 will take on the GS/E/5. We'll see.
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Old Feb 7, 2004 | 10:32 AM
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they should put those funkey headlights that are on teh q45 onto the M, i hear they are insane
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Old Feb 7, 2004 | 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
Infiniti just shoots itself in the foot with their re-sale. The old M45 will be a 20k vehicle next year. Sad. But a great deal.

Which is why I'm planning on it being my next car.....

340HP V8, WHOOO!
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Old Feb 7, 2004 | 11:17 AM
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340HP V8, WHOOO!
Or whimper, in the case of the Q45. The new M45 can't help but improve the current model. Hell it needs to replace both cars.
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Old Feb 7, 2004 | 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
Or whimper, in the case of the Q45. The new M45 can't help but improve the current model. Hell it needs to replace both cars.
Sick, almost anything would be better than the 200HP V6 I'm sporting now.....
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Car looks great so far compared to everything else in the midsize category. Should be interesting with the the M and RL there.
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Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
Infiniti just shoots itself in the foot with their re-sale. The old M45 will be a 20k vehicle next year. Sad. But a great deal.

I am very interested in how the M45 will take on the GS/E/5. We'll see.
You act like they somehow intentionally "set" resale value low or something ...
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"For Infiniti, interior is very important," Matsumura said.


has this dude seen the interior of the g35? :sqnteek:
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Old Feb 8, 2004 | 11:25 AM
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You act like they somehow intentionally "set" resale value low or something ...
They've been intentially selling cars that hurt their image and resale bub.
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Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
Infiniti just shoots itself in the foot with their re-sale. The old M45 will be a 20k vehicle next year. Sad. But a great deal.

I am very interested in how the M45 will take on the GS/E/5. We'll see.
That is true but it wont be Infiniti that will be "shot in the foot", but the current M45 owners.
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Originally posted by Zapata
has this dude seen the interior of the g35? :sqnteek:
True. Though judging from the improvement in the Altima, I cant even imagine what they will do to the G once its turn comes. And that should be very soon.
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'Small' glimpses of the new Infiniti sedans

Looks like the new m35 and refreshed q45 being shown in NYas.
http://www.infiniti.com//m/cma/v/rtc/rtc_NYAutoShow.swf

Possible q tails.

Possible m dash.

Possible m or q console.
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They're making a 3.5L M? Didn't know that.

The 2nd pic looks similar to the Bimmers dash in the way it curves on the passenger side. Not bad.
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haha! the first picture says "PI G"
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Infiniti is getting ready to make two of the most important product introductions in the history of the company - - Source: Autospies

The announcements are scheduled on April 8th...

Here is the official release from Infiniti:

Coming off a “big” introduction of the QX56 full-size SUV at the NAIAS in Detroit, Infiniti is set for another exciting, sensuous debut - the M45 Concept. Also being introduced at the NYIAS is the revamped 2005 Q45 Performance Luxury Sedan. Join us for the Infiniti press conference on Thursday, April 8 from 8:30 a.m. to 9:00 a.m.
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 01:52 AM
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After 14 years of duds, they are on a roll. Good for them. Lexus will be showing their IS 330 concept as well.
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Can't wait. The M35 WILL be my next car. Infiniti is so hot right now they can almost do no wrong.
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 04:26 PM
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Q45 sucks. M45 sucks. I35 sucks. QX56 sucks. They got 2 good cars, the G35 and FX.
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M45 is hot...what you talkin bout Willis?
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