Honda plans new plants in US, Canada **Ohio possibly to win bid (page 3)**
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Honda plans new plants in US, Canada **Ohio possibly to win bid (page 3)**
Honda plans new plant in North America - - Reuters / May 15, 2006 - 10:00 pm - - Source: Autonews
TOKYO -- Honda Motor Co. plans to spend about $456 million (50 billion yen) to build a sixth plant in North America to help meet growing demand, the Nihon Keizai business daily reported on Tuesday.
The plant would have an initial capacity of about 150,000 vehicles a year, almost 10 percent of Honda's North American sales, and would go into production in 2009, the paper said.
The site of the new plant had not been decided, but it would likely be near an existing facility, it said.
Honda has two plants in Ohio, one in Alabama, one in the Canadian province of Ontario and one in the Mexican state of Jalisco.
A company spokesman declined to comment.
Honda CEO Takeo Fukui will hold a regularly scheduled mid-year news conference on Wednesday, May 17.
Japan's No.3 automaker sold about 1.66 million vehicles in North America in 2005.
The company currently has an annual output capacity in that region of 1.4 million units and it has been importing vehicles from Japan and other areas to fill the gap, the paper said.
The new plant will probably manufacture such models as the Civic and Fit subcompact, and the company may consider building a second line to double capacity to 300,000 units a year, it said.
Last month, Honda reported a more than doubling in fourth-quarter profit, helped by brisk overseas sales, a softer yen and accounting one-offs, and it said it planned a strong, product-led push again this year.
Honda expects its North American car sales to rise 4.6 percent to 1.76 million units in the business year that started in April, taking up almost half of projected global car sales of 3.72 million units, which would be up 9.7 percent year-on-year.
The plant would have an initial capacity of about 150,000 vehicles a year, almost 10 percent of Honda's North American sales, and would go into production in 2009, the paper said.
The site of the new plant had not been decided, but it would likely be near an existing facility, it said.
Honda has two plants in Ohio, one in Alabama, one in the Canadian province of Ontario and one in the Mexican state of Jalisco.
A company spokesman declined to comment.
Honda CEO Takeo Fukui will hold a regularly scheduled mid-year news conference on Wednesday, May 17.
Japan's No.3 automaker sold about 1.66 million vehicles in North America in 2005.
The company currently has an annual output capacity in that region of 1.4 million units and it has been importing vehicles from Japan and other areas to fill the gap, the paper said.
The new plant will probably manufacture such models as the Civic and Fit subcompact, and the company may consider building a second line to double capacity to 300,000 units a year, it said.
Last month, Honda reported a more than doubling in fourth-quarter profit, helped by brisk overseas sales, a softer yen and accounting one-offs, and it said it planned a strong, product-led push again this year.
Honda expects its North American car sales to rise 4.6 percent to 1.76 million units in the business year that started in April, taking up almost half of projected global car sales of 3.72 million units, which would be up 9.7 percent year-on-year.
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
Suite!
Build some Fits over here
Build some Fits over here
I wonder if a B18 is swappable.
Last edited by Sly Raskal; 05-16-2006 at 02:39 AM.
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You know, tying this in with the "big-3 U.S. Jobs" thread, as the big-3 continue to lay-off people and shutting factories, while the big-J-3, not to mention the big-K (hyundai/kia) continue to sell more cars and increase production in the U.S., sooner or later the big-3 will be employing more people OUTSIDE the U.S. than in it, and eventually the foreign automakers will be employing more Americans than the big-3.
guess they should start thinking of a new marketing campaign now in preparation for the future...oh wait...no one at the big-3 has that much forsight.
guess they should start thinking of a new marketing campaign now in preparation for the future...oh wait...no one at the big-3 has that much forsight.
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Originally Posted by mrdeeno
You know, tying this in with the "big-3 U.S. Jobs" thread, as the big-3 continue to lay-off people and shutting factories, while the big-J-3, not to mention the big-K (hyundai/kia) continue to sell more cars and increase production in the U.S., sooner or later the big-3 will be employing more people OUTSIDE the U.S. than in it, and eventually the foreign automakers will be employing more Americans than the big-3.
guess they should start thinking of a new marketing campaign now in preparation for the future...oh wait...no one at the big-3 has that much forsight.
guess they should start thinking of a new marketing campaign now in preparation for the future...oh wait...no one at the big-3 has that much forsight.
#12
Originally Posted by biker
Why doesn't Honda (or anyone else proposing to build a plant) just recyle an old GM or Ford plant. It's gotta be cheaper than building one from scatch.
#13
Originally Posted by biker
Why doesn't Honda (or anyone else proposing to build a plant) just recyle an old GM or Ford plant. It's gotta be cheaper than building one from scatch.
#14
Originally Posted by F23A4
The B-series is old school. I would not mind seeing a K20Z3 powered Fit.
that's the only reason why i said the B18 because the GS-R had a 5 speed. but I guess in the end all you need is an adapter plate and voila.
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Originally Posted by biker
Why doesn't Honda (or anyone else proposing to build a plant) just recyle an old GM or Ford plant. It's gotta be cheaper than building one from scatch.
It would be like the foreigners are "invading" domestic territory.
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
even better, but the K20 is hooked up to a 6 speed manual in the RSX. the fit has a 5 speed manual. is that a problem?
that's the only reason why i said the B18 because the GS-R had a 5 speed. but I guess in the end all you need is an adapter plate and voila.
that's the only reason why i said the B18 because the GS-R had a 5 speed. but I guess in the end all you need is an adapter plate and voila.
So you'd need a K20 with a transmission. I believe the swap has already been done though with success.. I'd be curious to know how much heavier the nose is.
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
Definitely a problem.. bolt pattern is totally different (as are the dimensions)
So you'd need a K20 with a transmission. I believe the swap has already been done though with success.. I'd be curious to know how much heavier the nose is.
So you'd need a K20 with a transmission. I believe the swap has already been done though with success.. I'd be curious to know how much heavier the nose is.
but the mod potential on the b18 would put that to shame.
the only problem is enough room in the engine bay and that tranny.
oh well, until some guy or girl gets adventureous we'll never know.
and it looks a hell of a lot better than those scions.
#22
Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
I really doubt it. The retooling costs alone probably justify starting from scratch.
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Originally Posted by corey415
K20 swaps have been done, but very few actually are driveable or even run.
Why aren't they driveable???
#27
Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
Axles wont fit? Tranny wont fit?
Oh well, it was fun entertaining the thought.
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What does the Honda plant in Alabama build? Infiniti has a solid reliability reputation with the exception of the QX56, I believe it was hailed as the least reliable car of 2005? Funny because the only Infiniti built outside of Japan suffers shitty reliability.
#31
Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
if they aren't driveaable what's the point???
Why aren't they driveable???
Why aren't they driveable???
Regardless, the Mugen Fit Dynamite had a k20 swap; they themselves said it upset the balance of the car.
I personally feel that a k20 swap is way too much power for the chassis to handle. It definitely isnt easy or cheap by any means either.
I think an R18 engine (from 8th gen regular civics) is the perfect swap. Should be super cheap, great fuel economy, and decent power to boot (140 hp).
#32
Originally Posted by SeCsTaC
What does the Honda plant in Alabama build? Infiniti has a solid reliability reputation with the exception of the QX56, I believe it was hailed as the least reliable car of 2005? Funny because the only Infiniti built outside of Japan suffers shitty reliability.
Second thoughts, if Honda builds there Odyssey and Pilot there then no worries I guess. Their build quality is pretty good right?
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Honda to build new plants in U.S., Canada - - Dale Jewett | | Automotive News / May 16, 2006 - 11:14 pm - - Source: Autonews.com
DETROIT -- Honda Motor Co. will spend $665 million over the next two years to build a new auto assembly plant and expand engine and transmission production in the United States, and a new engine plant in Canada.
The new assembly plant will boost North American production capacity to 1.6 million units a year in 2008, Honda said. Currently, its annual North American production capacity stands at 1.4 million units.
The Japanese automaker also said it will introduce a new, dedicated hybrid car that will be cheaper than the current Civic Hybrid and have a sales target of 100,000 units a year in North America. Honda also plans to develop a new, four-cylinder diesel engine that will be sold in the U.S. and Canadian markets. The new diesel is based on a diesel engine Honda now sells in Europe.
Honda also has set a goal to boost the corporate average fuel economy rating of its fleet by 5 percent from 29.2 mpg rating in 2005 within the next four years.
The North America expansion plans are part of Honda’s bid to reach goals set out in its “2010 Vision” long-term plan, which was launched in 1998. Information on Honda’s global expansion plans was announced Wednesday morning in Japan.
Where is new plant’s home?
Honda said the new U.S. auto plant will begin building vehicles in 2008. The auto factory, Honda’s sixth in North America, will have annual capacity of 200,000 vehicles and employ about 1,500 people.
Honda said it will spend $400 million to build the plant. But it did not say where the plant will be located or what it will produce. The automaker said its site search was in “the final stages.” The plant’s location and product will be announced later.
There is no mystery about the site of the new engine plant in Canada. Honda said the plant will be built next to its vehicle assembly plant in Alliston, Ontario. The engine plant will cost about $140 million and is set to begin building four-cylinder engines in 2008. It will have 340 employees and a capacity of 200,000 engines a year.
To supply the new auto plant with engines, and provide parts to the new Canadian engine plant, Honda will spend $75 million to expand its engine plant in Anna, Ohio. The expansion, which adds 40 jobs, will enable the Anna plant to produce engine parts that are now imported from Japan.
Honda is also spending $80 million and hiring 40 new workers for its parts plant in Tallapoosa, Ga. The plant will add the ability to cast and machine transmission cases.
New, cheaper hybrid on the way
Honda’s plant in Suzuka, Japan, will build a new, dedicated hybrid powertrain vehicle, beginning in 2009. The hybrid will play a key part in Honda’s quest to boost its fleet fuel economy average by 5 percent by 2010.
The Suzuka plant will have the capacity to build 200,000 hybrids a year. Honda said 100,000 of them will be earmarked for North America.
The new hybrid will have a price “significantly lower” than the Civic Hybrid, Honda said. The 2006 Civic Hybrid has a base price of $22,700, including shipping charges.
Honda officials said the new hybrid will be sold only under the Honda brand and not be shared with the Acura luxury brand.
Honda said it also plants to introduce a new version of its i-VTEC variable valve timing technology and a more advanced version of its VCM cylinder deactivation technology for six-cylinder engines to help meet its goal of increasing fleet fuel economy.
The new assembly plant will boost North American production capacity to 1.6 million units a year in 2008, Honda said. Currently, its annual North American production capacity stands at 1.4 million units.
The Japanese automaker also said it will introduce a new, dedicated hybrid car that will be cheaper than the current Civic Hybrid and have a sales target of 100,000 units a year in North America. Honda also plans to develop a new, four-cylinder diesel engine that will be sold in the U.S. and Canadian markets. The new diesel is based on a diesel engine Honda now sells in Europe.
Honda also has set a goal to boost the corporate average fuel economy rating of its fleet by 5 percent from 29.2 mpg rating in 2005 within the next four years.
The North America expansion plans are part of Honda’s bid to reach goals set out in its “2010 Vision” long-term plan, which was launched in 1998. Information on Honda’s global expansion plans was announced Wednesday morning in Japan.
Where is new plant’s home?
Honda said the new U.S. auto plant will begin building vehicles in 2008. The auto factory, Honda’s sixth in North America, will have annual capacity of 200,000 vehicles and employ about 1,500 people.
Honda said it will spend $400 million to build the plant. But it did not say where the plant will be located or what it will produce. The automaker said its site search was in “the final stages.” The plant’s location and product will be announced later.
There is no mystery about the site of the new engine plant in Canada. Honda said the plant will be built next to its vehicle assembly plant in Alliston, Ontario. The engine plant will cost about $140 million and is set to begin building four-cylinder engines in 2008. It will have 340 employees and a capacity of 200,000 engines a year.
To supply the new auto plant with engines, and provide parts to the new Canadian engine plant, Honda will spend $75 million to expand its engine plant in Anna, Ohio. The expansion, which adds 40 jobs, will enable the Anna plant to produce engine parts that are now imported from Japan.
Honda is also spending $80 million and hiring 40 new workers for its parts plant in Tallapoosa, Ga. The plant will add the ability to cast and machine transmission cases.
New, cheaper hybrid on the way
Honda’s plant in Suzuka, Japan, will build a new, dedicated hybrid powertrain vehicle, beginning in 2009. The hybrid will play a key part in Honda’s quest to boost its fleet fuel economy average by 5 percent by 2010.
The Suzuka plant will have the capacity to build 200,000 hybrids a year. Honda said 100,000 of them will be earmarked for North America.
The new hybrid will have a price “significantly lower” than the Civic Hybrid, Honda said. The 2006 Civic Hybrid has a base price of $22,700, including shipping charges.
Honda officials said the new hybrid will be sold only under the Honda brand and not be shared with the Acura luxury brand.
Honda said it also plants to introduce a new version of its i-VTEC variable valve timing technology and a more advanced version of its VCM cylinder deactivation technology for six-cylinder engines to help meet its goal of increasing fleet fuel economy.
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Originally Posted by SeCsTaC
To clarify, the QX56 is built in Alabama.
I see how you can be confused though, considering both are equal on the redneck-O-meter.
#38
The last paragraph of one of the news stories says:
Honda will also begin working on a cleaner next-generation four-cylinder diesel engine that will meet the world’s strictest emissions guidelines and have less noise. It envisions selling the new super-clean engines within the next three years.
#39
Originally Posted by biker
The last paragraph of one of the news stories says:
I don't see another Insight happening, more like a hybrid Fit. I don't think there's a place for a car like the Insight anymore, it was a compromise car when it came out, almost like a production concept.