Junkster

I read this article this morning, and was kinda thinking the same thing...

Honda design has lost it's appeal of late, especially with the youth market. Once the trendsetter, now the civic looks docile at best.

What I would like to see is the Integra name resurrected in the Honda lineup, with a prelude sitting as a premium coupe for the lineup.

Junkster, who thinks Honda needs new designers

DEVO

as far as I know the "JDM" version is the one built in the UK. As for the engine, I thought it was the same as the RSX Type S.

As for octane levels, I don't see europe gas stations having higher octane gas then the NA markets.

93 (NA) != 93 (Europe)... more like 98.

gocubsgo55

Acura sedans are just fine the way they are (assuming SH-AWD makes its way onto the TL).

What they really need to do is, as many have said, drop the RSX down or bring it up as a TSX coupe, bring back the CL (which they say will happen.. ), and redesign the f'n NSX (lets not get into that).

Honda needs to return to what it once was. Bring back the ITR, the CTR, and the CRX. People loved these cars, not just ricers. They were good shows of what practicality and great engineering can do. At the time, they were better than the tC's of today BY FAR. I want to see the f'n Civic Si gone, replaced with the Civic Type-R. The Integra-R is another hit on my wish list, as is the CRX, which I had no respect for until I read how damn light the thing was (I had no respect for the CTR until Top Gear proved why I should ).

MSZ

The JDM is imported from UK, but the K20A that JDM CTR uses has different setting.

http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/c...ata/index.html

I am pretty sure the RSX-S K20A doesn't have 11.5:1 compression setting.

fdl

But in Japan they can get higher octane, and can support 12:1 engines. However, I could be thinking of the integra type-r , not the civic. I wish I could read the honda.co.jp website

fdl

right. I think different markets get different cars. For example the "type-r" in australia is a lower compression version because their gas can't take the hotter version. It would be the same for the US. At least this is what I have read.

I still think its 12:1 though..so it could be the integra i'm speaking of. 11.5:1 may be OK here...not sure.

ABP-CL9-TSX

I don't know what they are thinking these days, instead they bring us a ricey crappy Civic Si. I'd rather see a Type R.

The new RL looks nice, but its overpriced IMO.

ABP-CL9-TSX

I love my TSX and CR-V styling, but I am worried about new Honda models/replacements when the time comes to upgrade my cars.

lokman

In all fairness to Honda, the Civic is nearing the end of its current life cycle. Most of the current competition crept up within the past two-three years. I'm hopeful Honda of America management has gotten the message even when the current Civic was introduced that they shouldn't have dumbed down the suspension and should have given it more power. The Civic, like the Accord, is a bread and butter model for Honda and I can't see them messing it up. It probably won't be the most exhilirating vehicle out there and may not appeal to enthusiasts like us on this board, but you can bet that Honda will have done their homework and will be appealing to the largest demographic they can.

That said, Honda's lineup has lost a lot of the halo it once had - bring back a CRX, give us a new exciting Civic, move the RSX to Honda and give us a real Type R or bring back a Prelude, and keep the S2000 alive. Walking into a Honda dealership these days is boring.

iNteGraz92

you're kidding about that comment right?