Honda: Development and Technology News
11-08-2011, 09:27 PM
#2081
My first Avatar....
11-08-2011, 09:42 PM
#2082
Burning Brakes
if I didn't want to come back to a site, i'd just not come back, I don't ask to be banned
11-08-2011, 10:07 PM
#2083
I still own one. But it may be my last if Honda doesn't get their shit together. Nothing they have right now is really appealing to me with the exception of maybe the TSX... but there are so many better choices to be had.
Most of the 'anti-honda' crowd here has owned Hondas.Last edited by AZuser; 11-08-2011 at 10:10 PM.
11-09-2011, 06:29 AM
#2084
Race Director
11-09-2011, 06:35 AM
#2085
My first Avatar....
11-09-2011, 07:45 AM
#2086
11-09-2011, 10:26 AM
#2087
I have 2, a TSX and Ridgeline. I don't drive for work, and my wife has a company car, so those just sit in the garage until I need em. I'll have to see what they've got in a couple of years....but I wouldn't buy one now. The problem was so obviously him, it wasn't even funny.....he was an angry elf....
11-09-2011, 11:09 AM
#2089
I drive a Subata.
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So....... my question had been lost in this offtopic talk....
Does Asimo Type R comes with VTEC?
Does Asimo Type R comes with VTEC?
11-09-2011, 11:12 AM
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I commented on this at the bottom of the previous page. To find out, instruct him to run as fast as he can and wait for him to say ...
Originally Posted by Asimo
My VTEC just kicked in yo!
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11-09-2011, 11:17 AM
#2091
I drive a Subata.
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11-09-2011, 11:23 AM
#2092
11-10-2011, 07:12 AM
#2093
Safety Car
Tokyo
TOKYO -- Honda Motor Co. will debut three concept cars at the upcoming Tokyo Motor Show that foreshadow the Japanese automaker's vision for a battery-powered future: a plug-in hybrid touring sedan, an electric small city car and a sporty, open-cockpit electric vehicle.
The concepts presage cars that could come to market about two generations from now; say, in 2020.
A key feature of the cars is a pair of steering handles that are pulled backward and forward to direct the car instead of a wheel. Honda says that the technology is intuitive and much like steering a bicycle. When you want to turn left, you move the right handle forward. When you want to move right, you do the opposite.
The 1st concept, the AC-X, gets its name from Advanced Cruiser Experience. It is a wedge-shaped plug-in hybrid sedan that takes heavy styling cues from the Honda FCX Clarity fuel cell vehicle.
F1-inspired
To improve aerodynamics, it has an adjustable rear diffuser and body undercover that extend during highway driving to improve mileage. Formula One-inspired wheel covers also help.
The AC-X, with a drag coefficient of 0.21, targets fuel efficiency of 110 kilometers per liter, or 258 mpg, with its 120-kilowatt electric motor and 1.6-liter engine, Honda says.
The AC-X is envisioned as running 50 kilometers (31 miles) in electric-only mode.
Also on display will be the Honda Micro Commuter Concept. The 3-seat city runabout follows in the tradition of the Nissan Pivo concept series and the Toyota iQ minicar.
Its lithium ion battery gives it a range of 37 miles. But the so-called Loop Batter battery pack also can be taken out and plugged into other vehicles, including an electric minimotorbike. That 2-wheeler, dubbed the Motor Compo, can be loaded aboard the Micro Commuter Concept.
Swap your body panels
Another feature of the angular micro vehicle: colorful body panels that can be swapped in and out like the exchangeable skins of a smartphone to customize your ride.
The third car of tomorrow is the Small Sports EV Concept, a compact convertible electric vehicle. Honda is waiting until the show to give detailed specifications. But sketches released in advance depict a stubby, low-slung car reminiscent of the CR-Z sporty hybrid.
On the production car front, Honda will present the N Box, a new 660cc minicar for sale in Japan. It also will show a so-called N Concept hinting at a possible direction for next-generation minicars.
Press days for the Tokyo Motor Show are Nov. 30 and Dec. 1.
You can reach Hans Greimel at hgreimel@crain.com.
11-10-2011, 07:58 AM
#2096
Autocar
Honda has revealed this dramatic new mid-engined sports car concept as the star of the Tokyo motor show. The Honda Small Sports EV Concept will be joined on Honda’s Tokyo stand by a stylish new plug-in hybrid saloon and a Renault Twizy-style urban commuter vehicle.
Next to no details on the targa-roofed Small Sports EV Concept have been released by Honda, with the firm only saying that the car previews a “next-generation compact EV sports model that’s fun to drive while achieving excellent environmental performance”.
The car is not quite the successor to the NSX supercar that Honda insiders had been hinting would be on display at Tokyo. Instead its size appears to be closely linked to the Porsche Boxster, a car that Honda’s US dealers are known to want to be able to rival, and the car that Honda has now revealed its intentions to chase sales wise.
Another Honda insider described the Tokyo concept as a “modern interpretation of the NSX”. This backs up the comments made by Honda CEO Takanobu Ito to Autocar at the recent Frankfurt motor show.
“You can’t depend on a high power output to call a car 'sports' any more,” said Ito. “The original NSX was about high power and good driving performance, but today power-to-weight is what we must focus on. We will not chase Ferrari for outright power; we want to chase efficiency as well.”
Honda describes the AC-X saloon concept as being a next-generation plug-in hybrid. The concept appears to be between the Civic and Accord in size. The firm revealed last month that it intends to have a plug-in hybrid on sale in limited numbers in China, Japan and US in 2012.
Honda says the concept “offers a comfortable and enjoyable driving experience in urban and long-distance motoring”. To that end, the concept is offered with an ‘automatic driving mode’ for more relaxed driving, with an ‘engine drive mode’ on offer for more spirited driving.
The Micro Commuter Concept gets a similar three-seat 1+2 layout to the Nissan PIVO 3, featuring a central driving position. One novel feature is its ability to store Honda’s tiny new Motor Compo electric folding bike. This features a detachable battery pack that can be used to remotely power everyday items.
Honda has revealed this dramatic new mid-engined sports car concept as the star of the Tokyo motor show. The Honda Small Sports EV Concept will be joined on Honda’s Tokyo stand by a stylish new plug-in hybrid saloon and a Renault Twizy-style urban commuter vehicle.
Next to no details on the targa-roofed Small Sports EV Concept have been released by Honda, with the firm only saying that the car previews a “next-generation compact EV sports model that’s fun to drive while achieving excellent environmental performance”.
The car is not quite the successor to the NSX supercar that Honda insiders had been hinting would be on display at Tokyo. Instead its size appears to be closely linked to the Porsche Boxster, a car that Honda’s US dealers are known to want to be able to rival, and the car that Honda has now revealed its intentions to chase sales wise.
Another Honda insider described the Tokyo concept as a “modern interpretation of the NSX”. This backs up the comments made by Honda CEO Takanobu Ito to Autocar at the recent Frankfurt motor show.
“You can’t depend on a high power output to call a car 'sports' any more,” said Ito. “The original NSX was about high power and good driving performance, but today power-to-weight is what we must focus on. We will not chase Ferrari for outright power; we want to chase efficiency as well.”
Honda describes the AC-X saloon concept as being a next-generation plug-in hybrid. The concept appears to be between the Civic and Accord in size. The firm revealed last month that it intends to have a plug-in hybrid on sale in limited numbers in China, Japan and US in 2012.
Honda says the concept “offers a comfortable and enjoyable driving experience in urban and long-distance motoring”. To that end, the concept is offered with an ‘automatic driving mode’ for more relaxed driving, with an ‘engine drive mode’ on offer for more spirited driving.
The Micro Commuter Concept gets a similar three-seat 1+2 layout to the Nissan PIVO 3, featuring a central driving position. One novel feature is its ability to store Honda’s tiny new Motor Compo electric folding bike. This features a detachable battery pack that can be used to remotely power everyday items.
Tov
11-10-2011, 08:08 AM
#2098
Senior Moderator
Good news but I can't get excited over stuff that's years out and may never see production. Far more excited about the upcoming EV Fit.
Although, those concepts are at least styled very nicely.
Although, those concepts are at least styled very nicely.
11-10-2011, 09:53 AM
#2099
Senior Moderator
The concept looks great and it reminds me a little of the BMW i series.
11-10-2011, 10:01 AM
#2100
Moderator
the concept looks great and it reminds me a little of the bmw i series.
11-10-2011, 10:02 AM
#2101
Interesting, but its all about execution and results now.
IOW, I'll believe it when I see it.
IOW, I'll believe it when I see it.
11-10-2011, 02:00 PM
#2102
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Has this been posted? I went searching for "Asimo" and was brought here. I saw the reveal article posted but no video. I think it helps it to seem cooler (at least from a nerd's perspective).
http://youtu.be/lrHT_3cG_UI
Artificial intelligence throws me through a loop. I can think of some pretty comprehensive code, but I can't think of how to make it adapt. It's a good thing I work in analog most of the time.
Also, does this really belong in Automotive news? Ramblings or Toy Robots seems more fitting.
http://youtu.be/lrHT_3cG_UI
Artificial intelligence throws me through a loop. I can think of some pretty comprehensive code, but I can't think of how to make it adapt. It's a good thing I work in analog most of the time.
Also, does this really belong in Automotive news? Ramblings or Toy Robots seems more fitting.
11-11-2011, 12:49 PM
#2104
The sizzle in the Steak
How did Asimo end up in AUTOMOTIVE news. 
11-11-2011, 12:51 PM
#2105
The sizzle in the Steak
Great looking concept!
Now throw a turbo 4 in there and we will have a winner!!!
One can dream...but it will never happen.
Now throw a turbo 4 in there and we will have a winner!!!
One can dream...but it will never happen.
11-16-2011, 02:29 PM
#2106
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Note to the die-hard Honda fans, this (see link) is what many of us have been trying to say for YEARS now: http://blogs.motortrend.com/trading-...nda-18381.html
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11-16-2011, 03:59 PM
#2107
Senior Moderator
But Hyundai seems to be going after established players with RWD and V8's. Something Honda never did. Outside of the NSX (that I doubt many of us owned) and the S2000 we all loved Honda's because of the high revving FWD 4 bangers that made best in class HP per litre and had great handling. (IT-R, GS-R and Si) They did things different than everyone else did. Hyundai isn't.
But they are the Honda of today in that they're making cars that get people excited. Something Honda has completely abandoned.
But they are the Honda of today in that they're making cars that get people excited. Something Honda has completely abandoned.
11-16-2011, 04:08 PM
#2109
That article still won't change the minds of those die-hard Honda fans about the brand.
11-16-2011, 04:10 PM
#2110
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But Hyundai seems to be going after established players with RWD and V8's. Something Honda never did. Outside of the NSX (that I doubt many of us owned) and the S2000 we all loved Honda's because of the high revving FWD 4 bangers that made best in class HP per litre and had great handling. (IT-R, GS-R and Si) They did things different than everyone else did. Hyundai isn't.
But they are the Honda of today in that they're making cars that get people excited. Something Honda has completely abandoned.
But they are the Honda of today in that they're making cars that get people excited. Something Honda has completely abandoned.
11-16-2011, 04:20 PM
#2111
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Yup.
Sometimes I wonder if the engineers who had a hand making those great motors of the past have simply retired.
Toyota, a much larger company had to seek out the help of Yamaha to challenge the 100hp/litre figure when they came out with the Celica GT-S in 96 or 97. That tells me that getting a motor to rev to 8K reliably wasn't an easy thing to do or Toyota wouldn't have needed the help. The last 8K Honda motor was just put out to pasture and was designed back in 05. Nothing since. Only displacements bumps.
Obviously emissions and fuel economy regulations all play into this but something tells me the people responsible for the motors we loved are history.
Sometimes I wonder if the engineers who had a hand making those great motors of the past have simply retired.
Toyota, a much larger company had to seek out the help of Yamaha to challenge the 100hp/litre figure when they came out with the Celica GT-S in 96 or 97. That tells me that getting a motor to rev to 8K reliably wasn't an easy thing to do or Toyota wouldn't have needed the help. The last 8K Honda motor was just put out to pasture and was designed back in 05. Nothing since. Only displacements bumps.
Obviously emissions and fuel economy regulations all play into this but something tells me the people responsible for the motors we loved are history.
11-16-2011, 04:23 PM
#2112
I drive a Subata.
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Great article.
11-16-2011, 04:27 PM
#2113
The sizzle in the Steak
Sad how Honda has completely 
the bed.
the bed.
11-16-2011, 09:23 PM
#2114
2G TLX-S
Yup.
Sometimes I wonder if the engineers who had a hand making those great motors of the past have simply retired.
Toyota, a much larger company had to seek out the help of Yamaha to challenge the 100hp/litre figure when they came out with the Celica GT-S in 96 or 97. That tells me that getting a motor to rev to 8K reliably wasn't an easy thing to do or Toyota wouldn't have needed the help. The last 8K Honda motor was just put out to pasture and was designed back in 05. Nothing since. Only displacements bumps.
Obviously emissions and fuel economy regulations all play into this but something tells me the people responsible for the motors we loved are history.
Sometimes I wonder if the engineers who had a hand making those great motors of the past have simply retired.
Toyota, a much larger company had to seek out the help of Yamaha to challenge the 100hp/litre figure when they came out with the Celica GT-S in 96 or 97. That tells me that getting a motor to rev to 8K reliably wasn't an easy thing to do or Toyota wouldn't have needed the help. The last 8K Honda motor was just put out to pasture and was designed back in 05. Nothing since. Only displacements bumps.
Obviously emissions and fuel economy regulations all play into this but something tells me the people responsible for the motors we loved are history.
11-17-2011, 03:20 AM
#2115
it's not only a problem of engines... the question is that Honda pretend to be "technologically advanced" but the reality shows smth very different..
11-17-2011, 05:06 AM
#2116
from the today Autocar review of the new CR-V:
...But Honda seems to have taken a ‘good enough’ approach, opting for port fuel injection where the competition offers direct injection, and a 5-speed gearbox where 6, 7, even 8-speeds are becoming the norm. The maker insists it doesn’t need to spend the extra money to top the rest but what happened to the Honda that once led the world in powertrain innovation....
...But Honda seems to have taken a ‘good enough’ approach, opting for port fuel injection where the competition offers direct injection, and a 5-speed gearbox where 6, 7, even 8-speeds are becoming the norm. The maker insists it doesn’t need to spend the extra money to top the rest but what happened to the Honda that once led the world in powertrain innovation....
11-17-2011, 09:56 AM
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The last major change they made to their motors that I'm aware of was that they fitted a turbo to the K series and that I don't feel was that great because the lag is absolutely horrendous.
