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Old 09-08-2004, 05:06 AM
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Edmunds 2005 RL test drive

http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/roadt...irstdrive.1g.*
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That SH-AWD is really turning heads.
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OT: Glowing RL First Drive at Edmunds.com

http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/roadt...irstdrive.1g.*
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To Cars & Bikes forum.

Since it's OT, could you just post out there instead here?


In this case, can I move it without leaving any redirect link?
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Is it me, or does the rear three quarter view look like an Olds Aurora?
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Originally Posted by RhodeRunner
Is it me, or does the rear three quarter view look like an Olds Aurora?

omg it looks like the aurora.
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That's a sweet looking car but I like the interior of the TL much better; the RL interior has too much of a wide-sweep Oldsmobile look to it without the tight-flowing waterfall design of the TL. Otherwise looks like a nice ride, though.
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Something to look forward to when my TL's lease is up! Maybe by then there will be a v8!
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I think its a sweet looking car all around, period.
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http://images.autotrader.com/images/..._A.240x180.jpg



They look NOTHING alike! The 05 RL blows the old man Aurora away...
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Originally Posted by RhodeRunner
Is it me, or does the rear three quarter view look like an Olds Aurora?
No it looks like a 4 door 1st generation Acura CL to me...
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Looks a lot like the current Accord (esp that blueish one with the silver window trim).
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I just read the review and was about to post the link myself. A car like this for less than $50k? Dayum. Maybe it's time for me to trade up. I love my TL, but that SH-AWD sounds awesome.
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Originally Posted by neuronbob
I just read the review and was about to post the link myself. A car like this for less than $50k? Dayum. Maybe it's time for me to trade up. I love my TL, but that SH-AWD sounds awesome.
I'm thinking the same. While I like the 3rd generation TL, I'm totally sold on SH-AWD. On top of that, I prefer the looks of the RL and I'm in the market for a freeway cruiser. I was thinking '04 RL after some serious dealer discounts (well over 6000 dollars) but the '05 is THAT compelling that I'd pay sticker.
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You peeeps should get your eyes checked.

And look at the middle dash....amazing!



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Is it me, or does the rear three quarter view look like an Olds Aurora?
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First drive of RL on Edmunds.com

Check it out.....

http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/roadt...firstdrive.1.*
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Damn.. nice read. Something tells me I should have waited a little while and just bought the new RL
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yeah....but I can't live without my 6spd. That is the one and only reason I got rid of my Legend GS.

But damn, I would kill for that AWD!
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Locking thread. There are already several threads on this topic, and most have been moved to "Cars and Bikes".

Sorry...pls. search before posting stuff like this.

http://www.acura-tl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93616
http://www.acura-tl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93576
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What's with Honda and their horsepower thing? They apparently think people will buy for the 300hp alone without looking at the measly torque figures. Hell's bells, my 2004 Maxima has more torque than the 300hp, 40-something thousand dollar RL, and in case you don't know it, TORQUE is what mashes you back in the seat when you hit the accelerator.

It's the same with the TL ... they squeeze 270hp out of the 3.2 liter engine engine, at the expense of TORQUE. I mean, 230-something ft/lbs of torque at 270hp sucks large. And you feel it on the freeway when you try to blow by some idiot doing 35 in a 60.

I'm REALLY disappointed in the sucko torque figures for the RL. This is a car which will not have the guts that 300hp promises. It will run about like a car with 250-260hp, so forget about the fancy advertising about 300hp. Honda strikes again.

Oh, and don't just write me off as a troll. I have been anxiously awaiting the RL, and I'm about as disappointed in the final styling as I am the power. The website pix looked killer, but the final product is almost as bland as the outgoing model. Damn ... gotta start all over again.

Mike
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Originally Posted by MADCAT
You peeeps should get your eyes checked.

And look at the middle dash....amazing!

AMAZING? I'd say "UGLY"! What's going on with that bigass ugly knob in the center? I guess it's Acura's version of the much-hated BMW iDrive. Brilliant.

What a disappointment ... after all the buildupl

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Originally Posted by Mike_TX
What's with Honda and their horsepower thing? They apparently think people will buy for the 300hp alone without looking at the measly torque figures. Hell's bells, my 2004 Maxima has more torque than the 300hp, 40-something thousand dollar RL, and in case you don't know it, TORQUE is what mashes you back in the seat when you hit the accelerator.

It's the same with the TL ... they squeeze 270hp out of the 3.2 liter engine engine, at the expense of TORQUE. I mean, 230-something ft/lbs of torque at 270hp sucks large. And you feel it on the freeway when you try to blow by some idiot doing 35 in a 60.

I'm REALLY disappointed in the sucko torque figures for the RL. This is a car which will not have the guts that 300hp promises. It will run about like a car with 250-260hp, so forget about the fancy advertising about 300hp. Honda strikes again.

Oh, and don't just write me off as a troll. I have been anxiously awaiting the RL, and I'm about as disappointed in the final styling as I am the power. The website pix looked killer, but the final product is almost as bland as the outgoing model. Damn ... gotta start all over again.

Mike
Mike, why would Honda jump into the torque game now?? I like torque (02 Maxima here) but Honda devotees really dont like torque. My friend has an 01 S2000 and was VERY disappointed when Honda increased the torque on the newer 2.2L S2000, EVEN THOUGH it still posts very similar performance numbers.

Some folks admire linebackers (Nissan - torque) and other folks admire wide receivers (Honda - horsepower). Go figure.
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ToV has their own first drive review up:
http://www.vtec.net/articles/view-ar...icle_id=265741
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Originally Posted by Mike_TX
AMAZING? I'd say "UGLY"! What's going on with that bigass ugly knob in the center? I guess it's Acura's version of the much-hated BMW iDrive. Brilliant.

What a disappointment ... after all the buildupl

Mike
I don't have any experience with the iDrive but I have lots of experience with Acura's navigation units and I can tell you that this so called bigass knob will make things alot easier. Screen selections will be easier and faster. Have you ever used the little knobs that are on the navis we have now? Talk about lack of control. Now, you just have to turn the knob to make a selection, whereas the older ones you have to move left, right, up, down and usually they don't always go where you want it to go. Now it's just turn knob left or right then push to enter. I'm also sure it still has the touch screen capabilities.

Anyway, with all the newly added voice commands and street names, who needs the knob anyway? Honda has always been about user friendliness. They are not going to change their awesome class leading navigation systems to make them worse. Every year all they have done is make them better.
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Originally Posted by Mike_TX
What's with Honda and their horsepower thing? They apparently think people will buy for the 300hp alone without looking at the measly torque figures. Hell's bells, my 2004 Maxima has more torque than the 300hp, 40-something thousand dollar RL, and in case you don't know it, TORQUE is what mashes you back in the seat when you hit the accelerator.

It's the same with the TL ... they squeeze 270hp out of the 3.2 liter engine engine, at the expense of TORQUE. I mean, 230-something ft/lbs of torque at 270hp sucks large. And you feel it on the freeway when you try to blow by some idiot doing 35 in a 60.

I'm REALLY disappointed in the sucko torque figures for the RL. This is a car which will not have the guts that 300hp promises. It will run about like a car with 250-260hp, so forget about the fancy advertising about 300hp. Honda strikes again.

Oh, and don't just write me off as a troll. I have been anxiously awaiting the RL, and I'm about as disappointed in the final styling as I am the power. The website pix looked killer, but the final product is almost as bland as the outgoing model. Damn ... gotta start all over again.

Mike

People in the luxury car range don't want their engines revving all loud at 6500 rpm to make some decent HP/Torque. They want the car to be quiet and smooth and that is where low RPM torque comes in.
I do think 300hp from this V-6 is nice though Nissan has 298hp with more torque.
The SH-AWD seems to really be smooth. Great job Honda! Wish it didn't look so bland. Where is the TL wrapper?

Overall this RL is a huge step over its predecessor.
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the center knob might be a little too large for me too....but it looks OK here, much better integrated than iDrive's mouse thing....ugh
oh, and speaking of BMW...does anyone else see a hint of 7-Series in the RL's rear end??
it's got that little trunk kick-up off of the taillights...i despise that

but otherwise...kudos to Acura, i like the exterior besides the rear end(although it's SLIGHTLY too bulbous/rounded for me), i find the interior well conceived, stylish, aggressive...and the technology/performance looks to be there in spades
well done
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The rear end looks more like the first generation TL than a 7 series and the TL came out first so who copied who? The RL rear end looks better than both of them.
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ok, first of all guia....pipe down dude - i wasn't saying anybody was "copying" anybody
i would hope to God that NOBODY would copy the latest BMW lineup...gross

secondly, the 7 series rear end looks nothing like the first gen TL......it's a completely different design and look to the rear
the RL clearly has a connection to the 7 series, although i think it's much better integrated here
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