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Old 01-08-2007, 08:02 PM
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THAT is how you design an interior (second only to the Germans )
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THAT is how you design an interior (second only to the Germans )

japanese interiors have been superior for years. more like, its about time domestics caught up
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The leather wrapped armrests and door inserts are evidence of quality that I've never seen in any GM car; this interior murders the STS's. The stiching is clean, simple... this car continues to win me over.

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the interior looks freakin awesome at least in teh pics - in terms of quality. The design of the interior isn't groundbreaking or jaw dropping, but the execution appears to be flawless. Excellent use of good materials and fine worksmanship. Great job GM
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winner! I think the only thing keeping me from rating this tops in the segment is the G35, which even then makes it very close. AWESOME looking car!
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Of course the next question is: how much?
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This is an awesome re-design. I am very impressed with GM. She's a looker and with that 3.6L V6, she ought to be show and GO. I can't wat to see it in person, this is a definite step up from the previous Gen.
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It looks really nice. I don't think they should offer all those engine options though. The 300hp V6 should be standard with the V8 available in the CTS-V. No need for a lower V6 IMO.
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
It looks really nice. I don't think they should offer all those engine options though. The 300hp V6 should be standard with the V8 available in the CTS-V. No need for a lower V6 IMO.

They need it to market a lower "starting at" MSRP. Besides, I can see them selling quite a few 258HP versions. Thats plenty of power for most.
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I was expecting more than 315HP from the DI version of the 3.6L to be honest.
306 is the magic number - anything above that and the CTS is class leading.
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They need it to market a lower "starting at" MSRP. Besides, I can see them selling quite a few 258HP versions. Thats plenty of power for most.
They also need to offer a MT in every trim level.
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Originally Posted by dom
They need it to market a lower "starting at" MSRP. Besides, I can see them selling quite a few 258HP versions. Thats plenty of power for most.

That sounds like a good plan to me. Lexus does the same thing (offering a lower/higher output engine) with the IS250 and 350, Audi offers a 4 cylinder and a V6 in the A4, as well as Mercedes in the C class. BMW offers two v-6's as well in the 3 series. Why not do it?

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I'm impressed. It looks like a real winner. I will definitely have to check one out when they become available.
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But why are there no door pockets?
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
It looks really nice. I don't think they should offer all those engine options though. The 300hp V6 should be standard with the V8 available in the CTS-V. No need for a lower V6 IMO.
I think offering an entry level engine is a great idea. It's the norm in this segment, so why not also do it. The only competitor who doesn't offer a lower output engine is the G.
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Originally Posted by titan
I think offering an entry level engine is a great idea. It's the norm in this segment, so why not also do it. The only competitor who doesn't offer a lower output engine is the G.
And that may only be for the time being as the rumors of a G25 continue to float around.
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Originally Posted by titan
The leather wrapped armrests and door inserts are evidence of quality that I've never seen in any GM car; this interior murders the STS's. The stiching is clean, simple... this car continues to win me over.
Definetly looks nice in the pictures. I can't wait to see it in person. I might faint if GM actually built a decent interior. It would be a great sign for GM's comeback.
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Originally Posted by Beltfed
Well, you might as well get used to it as there will be lots of them on the road.........you're definitely in the minority.

This car is going to sell extremely well.

Perhaps or perhaps not. Only time and the market will tell.
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Originally Posted by kansaiwalker1
Perhaps or perhaps not. Only time and the market will tell.
Its guaranteed to do well, this is going to be a home run car....no doubt about it.

Has a fresh and unique look, the interior is more than inline with the current competition and the engine is slightly class leading.

The last CTS sold like hotcakes and while the new car is not a huge departure style wise. Overall it does look better and more substantial.
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Originally Posted by Beltfed
Its guaranteed to do well, this is going to be a home run car....no doubt about it.

Has a fresh and unique look, the interior is more than inline with the current competition and the engine is slightly class leading.

The last CTS sold like hotcakes and while the new car is not a huge departure style wise. Overall it does look better and more substantial.
The competition is stiff and Cadillac is still playing catch up IMO. Time will tell if this car is a hit or not. Cadillac also has some work to do as a brand. It doesn't have the snob appeal of Audi, BMW, Lexus, or Mercedes.
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Originally Posted by Beltfed
What other car in its class has more power?

The 335i. Makes 350 at the crank. The IS350 did 4.9 seconds at the latest test. The G35 is in mid to low 5s. So this 300~HP engine better take this thing to 60 in the very, very low 5s or else it's not competitive IMO.
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Now I am guessing that the CTSV will share a supercharged DOHC V8 with the STSV. The only difference will probably be a little detuning for the CTSV because it will be lighter.
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Nice looking car, I give it that much. Im surprised nobody has commented on how the interior is a blatant ripoff of some other car... esp the center console with the vents off to the sides like that. Dont know which one of the top of my head but yeah. or has someone lol.

I see they decided on the 70's-80's GM interior fonts... again.
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Originally Posted by gavriil
The 335i. Makes 350 at the crank. The IS350 did 4.9 seconds at the latest test. The G35 is in mid to low 5s. So this 300~HP engine better take this thing to 60 in the very, very low 5s or else it's not competitive IMO.
None of that matters, when the paper number says it's class leading. As long as the the HP number is above 306, the CTS will have the lead. It will be trumpeted by every Caddy salesman and marketeer. Even in car rag comparisons it might win without a real street performance edge.
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Originally Posted by Maximized
The competition is stiff and Cadillac is still playing catch up IMO. Time will tell if this car is a hit or not. Cadillac also has some work to do as a brand. It doesn't have the snob appeal of Audi, BMW, Lexus, or Mercedes.
The fact that people are paying 30k premiums for rebranded Avalanches isn't snob appeal enough for you?
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Oh yeah, forgot to mention this car looks great. Nod to Caddy on this one. Something I'll have to check out when it hits showrooms.
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Oh yeah, forgot to mention this car looks great. Nod to Caddy on this one. Something I'll have to check out when it hits showrooms.
Oh, and Naruto is the man!
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Nice looking car, I give it that much. Im surprised nobody has commented on how the interior is a blatant ripoff of some other car... esp the center console with the vents off to the sides like that. Dont know which one of the top of my head but yeah. or has someone lol.

yeah, overall shape is copied from the new G
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Video: Dutch Mandel walks around Cadillac's CTS with GM interiors design chief, David Rande

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Autoweek screwed up with their links there. I am sure they will correct and I will update.
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For now enjoy this GM video of the introduction of the CTS
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Wagoner is like, "what the hell is this long violin crappy show?, I am firing the mkt director tomorrow", lol.

FYI: The violin show ends at around 4:30 minutes (for those that want to skip).
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In all fairness it is very impressive that the ~300HP comes on regular fuel.
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Holy cow, look at the hot girl (Marie) responsible for NVH!!! That's my grirl boys! Young, hot and into cars more than me. LOL!
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Oh, and Naruto is the man!
Yeah another Naruto fan!
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wow...well done, cadillac!

the exterior is a further improvement on the previous generation, which i really liked.

and the interior is years ahead. i just want to see the finishing touches up close in person.

but yea...cadillac has a winner.
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Originally Posted by gavriil
In all fairness it is very impressive that the ~300HP comes on regular fuel.
And I'm sure the marketeers and salesmen will point that out every chance they get.
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Originally Posted by Infamous425
yeah, overall shape is copied from the new G
Yeah, the G35 is the first thing that came to mind.....





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