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Old 10-14-2011, 06:28 PM
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i want to see pics of the version that has most of the chrome deleted.
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They never change the design much because it sells REALLY well as is. No need to risk the sales figures by completely revamping the interior/exterior design.

I think the current still owns all the competition, even though it's been quite awhile since it first came out.
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This is pretty similar to what Honda did to its Civic line. But obviously, Civic went cheap here and there and got pwned by the media and its direct competitors. It's all about how well you execute the plan, and it seems like BMW did really good job on it.
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I wouldn't make the Civic analogy. Honda really dropped the ball on that one. The 3-Series design isn't bad at all. I was just analyzing it, not criticizing it.
Old 10-14-2011, 07:18 PM
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Oooo...like this version.


Just hope the douche-meter doesn't get turned too high owning it!
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Originally Posted by phile
i think I like the current one better. they obviously didn't want to mess with success, and it shows...in a bad way.
Based on pics alone, I'll have to agree that E90 looks slightly better than F30, minus the tail lights and interior design/layout.











F30 interior just seems better looking. It's easier on the eyes the way the navi fits into the center stack.



Design of headlights are growing on me... The more I look at them, the more I like them.




I didn't like the E90 design when it first came out, but it eventually grew on me. I'm sure the F30 will be the same.




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I wouldn't make the Civic analogy. Honda really dropped the ball on that one.
Honda supposedly pushed back the 9th generation Civic debut to work on and improve it in light of what the competition was coming out with. I think they were sleeping during that whole time.
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Old 10-14-2011, 10:35 PM
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One sausage different lengths fits perfectly here. 3, 5 and 7 all looks almost the same, specially the rear.
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I don't like the way the new hood cuts straight across above the grille. The E90 blends the hood line into the grille.



I think the Navi looks like an after thought in the F30. I liked the sculpted dash with the Navi built into it
Old 10-14-2011, 11:11 PM
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I really the new interior...FINALLY getting back to the driver oriented cock pit...I like the center tunnel also.

Exterior...sleeker, better visibility over the hood...but out to lunch on the design til I see it in person.
Old 10-14-2011, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by pttl
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I think the Navi looks like an after thought in the F30. I liked the sculpted dash with the Navi built into it
I think it looks sleek...almost artsy in its placement..I'm guessing its a superbright or OLED screen that can be seen easily in daylight.
Old 10-14-2011, 11:57 PM
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Those comparo pics are great! I prefer the E90's front end. It has more presence to me. I definitely like hood/headlight integration better. If they did the same "sized" front end with the new headlights with no extension to the grille, it would be perfect.
Old 10-15-2011, 12:07 AM
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I think this would be better
Old 10-15-2011, 02:42 AM
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^I still prefer the larger/taller front end, but that helps 110%.
Old 10-15-2011, 08:00 AM
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The F30 looks like another winner for the 3-series.
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Ill have to see it in person, but I like the E90 more. There are a few elements on the F30 that I like by themselves, but in practice they don't look good - particularly the headlights. I like them, but I dont like how they flow into the grille. The whole front end just looks oddly proportioned.
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As mentioned, the 2012 BMW 3-Series is bigger than the model it replaces, with its wheelbase growing by almost two inches, now measuring 110.6 inches, and its front and rear track measuring in at 60.3 inches and 61.9 inches, up 1.46 inches and 1.85 inches respectively.

Importantly, weight distribution remains an ideal 50:50 split front to rear. Overall weight is down 88 pounds on the outgoing model as well. Most of the extra girth benefits rear seat passengers, which get more legroom as well as shoulder room.

Three trim levels and two engines, initially

Buyers in the U.S. can look forward to three different trim levels--Sport Line, Luxury Line and Modern Line--and two new engines: a range-topping six-cylinder turbo in the 335i model or a new four-cylinder turbo in the 328i.
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Looks like BMW is going all-out with turbos for it's engine lines, in order to fight the ever tightening CAFE requirement.
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Im really not a fan of the flat boring dash. It looks plain and almost ugly....
Old 10-17-2011, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Im really not a fan of the flat boring dash. It looks plain and almost ugly....

Its better than the current 3series interior, but thats not saying much.

Now do i get a new F30 335i or a used 2010 M3 when my lease is done?

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^ OMG I like that alot.
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So much better than the E90 interior.
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Not sure why they claim the 8-sp auto is "a first" in this segment. Audi had an 8-sp on the A4 since last year.

Anybody got more pics of the M-package? That's probably the best hope as far as exterior styling, all the other ones seem almost the same. I'm guessing the blue pic in this thread is the M style, but it's not a very good angle.
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Originally Posted by Belzebutt
Not sure why they claim the 8-sp auto is "a first" in this segment. Audi had an 8-sp on the A4 since last year.

Anybody got more pics of the M-package? That's probably the best hope as far as exterior styling, all the other ones seem almost the same. I'm guessing the blue pic in this thread is the M style, but it's not a very good angle.

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=598186
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Originally Posted by Crazy Acura
Its better than the current 3series interior, but thats not saying much.

Now do i get a new F30 335i or a used 2010 M3 when my lease is done?

Msport interior
What's with the blue across the dash (presumably color-matched to the exterior)? That looks a little...Kia.
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
Ill have to see it in person, but I like the E90 more. There are a few elements on the F30 that I like by themselves, but in practice they don't look good - particularly the headlights. I like them, but I dont like how they flow into the grille. The whole front end just looks oddly proportioned.
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The seats look a bit cheesy to me



The second page of that thread also has a nice chop:



I also find it funny that so many people in that thread are bitching about the steering wheel.

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I'm still getting used to the fact the BMW has far forced induction motors in their lineup than NA Motors.
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Old 10-18-2011, 11:30 AM
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this car isnt exciting anymore : /

just see too goddamn many everyday

unless its an M i dont even glance twice
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who complained about bmw's steering wheel?

I love their steering wheel!

ALso the new interior is much much more better than the current gen. I like how they moved everything up in line with the drivers eye so you dont have to look down anymore. And I like the new placement of the nav and center armrest/transmission terminal.
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Originally Posted by KillerG
this car isnt exciting anymore : /

just see too goddamn many everyday

unless its an M i dont even glance twice
I see them everyday too, I actually hated it a lot just by the fact that you see it so many times every day.

However, after I had a chance to drive E46 M3 and E90 335i for quite extensive time. My perception changed. I've driven A LOT of cars over the years, but the BMW 3-series really stand out in terms of driving excitement. It's just SO FUN to drive.

And you can always change out the rims to make the car to have totally different feel to it.
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335s just cost so much money now.
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You mean you have one and the maintenance is killing you? or they are expensive
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You mean you have one and the maintenance is killing you? or they are expensive
This.
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Oh, yes, that's for sure.

But I think you are getting A LOT more than what you actually pay for, at least for me.
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Oh, yes, that's for sure.

But I think you are getting A LOT more than what you actually pay for, at least for me.
As someone that owns a 13-year old 3-series I'd say I can understand your perspective. The inline-6 from BMW is an amazing engine. Even with 190hp my 328i feels like it's a lot faster than it really is and sounds as good at WOT as a similar-era 911 IMO.

Excellent steering and feels very solid on the road. The age of the car has shown every corner BMW cut though and as a result, I don't know that I'd ever buy a new one.
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
The seats look a bit cheesy to me


Must be marketed to the "Jersey Shores" crowd.
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
The seats look a bit cheesy to me



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I agree. If it didnt have the blue honeycomb pattern in the center i think they would look


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