BMW: 3-Series News
03-23-2006, 05:35 PM
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The sizzle in the Steak
Retractable Hardtop 
03-23-2006, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
tires dont look very big for a V8
More conflicting info too, last rumor was no cab since the hardtop weighed so much. Guess we shall see. I also agree that overall it doesn't have the agressive look of the E46 M3 but again that isn't showroom trim.
03-23-2006, 06:17 PM
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I am not digging the look. I know it's not the production car, but it needs work. Personally I think the enthusiasts choice will be the 335i Turbo. Turbo cars respond awesome to mods.
03-24-2006, 06:40 AM
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Hey, did I miss something...I while back I thought someone said that BMW was going to change the 3 series name to the 4 series for the 2 door version leaving the 3 series name for the 4 door? Thus leaving odd number series as the 4 doors and the even number series as the 2 door cars. Did they change their minds?
03-24-2006, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by AS3.0CL
just doesn't seem to have the agressiveness of the current M3.
03-24-2006, 08:41 AM
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Engineer
take current M3 drop in the new engine and i am happy... BMW i am saving you development time... lol...
03-24-2006, 08:41 AM
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i bet the 4 door could look better...
03-24-2006, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by savage
take current M3 drop in the new engine and i am happy... BMW i am saving you development time... lol...
Larger engine means more weight which means stronger support for the engine which may mean adjusting suspension, adjusting engine mounts and mount points, changing size of engine bay which coudl then change the size of the front end.
It's never that easy.
03-24-2006, 12:06 PM
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Engineer
how about a E46 M3 and E39 M5 love child?
Originally Posted by slyraskal
Too bad it's not that easy.
Larger engine means more weight which means stronger support for the engine which may mean adjusting suspension, adjusting engine mounts and mount points, changing size of engine bay which coudl then change the size of the front end.
It's never that easy.
Larger engine means more weight which means stronger support for the engine which may mean adjusting suspension, adjusting engine mounts and mount points, changing size of engine bay which coudl then change the size of the front end.
It's never that easy.
but this is also a 5.0 litre V8 versus the rumored 4L version going into the new M3...
anyways... i just wish the Hartge was more affordable, cause i love the current M3 and the E39 M5...
HARTGE H50 V-8 E46 Vehicle type: front-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 2-door sedan
Price as tested: $120,000 (base price*: $120,000)
Engine type: DOHC 32-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads, Bosch Motronic MSS 52 engine-control system with port fuel injection
Displacement............................302 cu in, 4941cc
Power (SAE net).........................394 bhp @ 6600 rpm
Torque (SAE net)........................369 lb-ft @ 3800 rpm
Transmission.............................6-speed manual
Wheelbase.................................107.3 in
Length....................................176.7 in
Curb weight...............................3520 lb
Zero to 60 mph............................4.5 sec
Zero to 100 mph..........................10.2 sec
Zero to 130 mph..........................17.6 sec
Zero to 150 mph..........................25.7 sec
Street start, 5Ð60 mph...................4.9 sec
Standing 1/4-mile......................12.9 sec @ 113 mph
Top speed (C/D est)......................180 mph
Braking, 70Ð0 mph........................168 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad..........0.89 g
*Base price includes all performance-enhancing options.
Price as tested: $120,000 (base price*: $120,000)
Engine type: DOHC 32-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads, Bosch Motronic MSS 52 engine-control system with port fuel injection
Displacement............................302 cu in, 4941cc
Power (SAE net).........................394 bhp @ 6600 rpm
Torque (SAE net)........................369 lb-ft @ 3800 rpm
Transmission.............................6-speed manual
Wheelbase.................................107.3 in
Length....................................176.7 in
Curb weight...............................3520 lb
Zero to 60 mph............................4.5 sec
Zero to 100 mph..........................10.2 sec
Zero to 130 mph..........................17.6 sec
Zero to 150 mph..........................25.7 sec
Street start, 5Ð60 mph...................4.9 sec
Standing 1/4-mile......................12.9 sec @ 113 mph
Top speed (C/D est)......................180 mph
Braking, 70Ð0 mph........................168 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad..........0.89 g
*Base price includes all performance-enhancing options.
03-24-2006, 12:45 PM
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What Would Don Draper Do?
Originally Posted by savage
i bet the 4 door could look better...
03-24-2006, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by slyraskal
Too bad it's not that easy.
Larger engine means more weight which means stronger support for the engine which may mean adjusting suspension, adjusting engine mounts and mount points, changing size of engine bay which coudl then change the size of the front end.
It's never that easy.
Larger engine means more weight which means stronger support for the engine which may mean adjusting suspension, adjusting engine mounts and mount points, changing size of engine bay which coudl then change the size of the front end.
It's never that easy.
03-24-2006, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
it doesn't look as aggressive as before, how come only 2 single exhaust pipes and not 2 twin pipes like on the current M3?
and a 
03-25-2006, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by iNteGraz92
the black car with the mesh wheels and dual-tip dual exhaust is the m3. the blue car is the 335i turbo.
03-26-2006, 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Beltfed
I'll wait until I see real photos to judge, I'm sure once the official photos come out most people will be impressed.
I ignore the bandwagon haters for now. The car is freakin covered up yet people are saying its ugly....
03-26-2006, 07:28 PM
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It looks hot to me.... I think all of the agressiveness will come back out with the production wheels, lights, trim, etc... The body shape looks pretty hot in my opinion.
03-27-2006, 12:16 PM
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You really can't tell a whole lot from looking at spy pictures. The tires are obviously not the size they expect to ship the car with and sometimes the manufacturers purposely change body panels to mislead spy photographers. I doubt there's anyway BMW is gonna release a new M3 that isn't more stylish and innovative than the last M3.
03-29-2006, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by dezzzmond
Every M3 that BMW has produced has been a great looking car. I'm sure this new one will be the same.
04-03-2006, 10:35 AM
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New BMW 335I
Any thoughts. Twin Turbo! I am looking forward to it. My lease is up in about 9 months so this is def. a possibility. Hopefully it will be offerred in a six speed. My only concern is that everyone will get one.
04-03-2006, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by coop1018
Any thoughts. Twin Turbo! I am looking forward to it. My lease is up in about 9 months so this is def. a possibility. Hopefully it will be offerred in a six speed. My only concern is that everyone will get one.
04-03-2006, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Tireguy
Seems a bit expensive, but then again I am cheap bastard.
Doesn't seem bad, and the tuning potential will be GREAT!
04-03-2006, 11:12 AM
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Sounds nice, but BMW's are overpriced period. I almost bought one. Aside from that, hands down they are very nice. Twin turbo though, can't complain about that.
04-03-2006, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Wait, let me get this straight. No one thinks the E46 M3 is overpriced but the 335i is? 
Label whores!
Label whores!
The 335i is priced right where it should be
04-03-2006, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by cob3683
The 335i is priced right where it should be
No kidding. Its priced where the E36 M3 was and no one called that overpriced.
302hp for 40k (starting) seems like a good deal to me. Just add software and im sure it will be faster than a 45k (starting) e46 M3.
Lets not forget more torque than the M3.
Last edited by Crazy Bimmer; 04-03-2006 at 11:36 AM.
