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Yep. Base prices.
435i is with M Sport package I believe.
435i is with M Sport package I believe.
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2014 BMW 2 Series Coupe M Performance Parts
Press release...
The market launch of the BMW 2 Series Coupé clinches pole position in the premium compact segment. The figure 2 in the model designation stands for supreme sporty flair while the letter M refers to the attractive features available for making a dynamic driving experience even more intensive. As in the case of the BMW M Performance automobile BMW M235i, BMW M Performance parts developed for all variants of the BMW 2 Series Coupé will be available as of the market launch in March 2014. The retrofit components designed in close collaboration with BMW M GmbH in the areas of drivetrain, suspension, aerodynamics and cockpit perceptibly boost driving dynamics as well as underscoring the athletic appearance and sporty interior ambience of the new 2-door model. The product selection forms part of the Original BMW Parts program and enables the driver of a BMW 2 Series Coupé to add a touch of individual style in a way that expresses motor racing enthusiasm.
The BMW M Performance Power Kit available for the BMW 220d Coupé creates perfect starting conditions, increasing the output of the 4-cylinder diesel engine by 12 kW/16 bhp to 147 kW/200 bhp and maximum torque by 40 Nm to 420 Nm. The increased sprint capacity achieved has no impact on fuel consumption and exhaust emission figures. A BMW M Performance silencer system is available for the BMW M235i Coupé which reduces exhaust gas pressure to produce a striking, sports-style sound. In addition BMW M Performance tailpipe trim elements are offered in chrome or carbon, bearing the M logo.
A highlight in the suspension area is the BMW M Performance limited-slip differential available for the BMW M235i Coupé. When the dynamic stability control function DSC is deactivated, the torque-sensitive mechanical limited-slip differential in the rear axle ensures traction-optimised distribution of drive torque between the rear wheels. It reduces the slip that occurs on the wheel with less grip by transferring more drive power to the other wheels using a blocking effect. This converts engine power into forward momentum as effectively as possible so as to be able to accelerate out of a bend even more dynamically, for instance.
Products available for all model variants include the BMW M Performance sports suspension including a lowering of 20 millimetres as compared to the standard version, as well as specific dampers and shortened coil springs finished in red, and the especially light and high-capacity BMW M Performance brake system with brake calipers painted in a choice of red, yellow or orange. 19-inch forged BMW M Performance light alloy wheels are also available in two design versions.
The exterior components created to optimise aerodynamic properties have been developed with characteristic M precision. As a supplement to the M sports package available ex works and in conjunction with the BMW M Performance rear spoiler in carbon there is a BMW M Performance Aerodynamic Kit available for the front apron which has been tailored specifically to this model. The combination of air ducting elements at front and rear guarantees an ideal aerodynamic balance and can be supplemented with a diffuser insert for the rear apron as well as attachments for the side sills. Other individual accents to the outer appearance of the BMW 2 Series Coupé can be added by means of a black decorative grid for the BMW kidney grille, exterior caps in carbon, side sill foils with M Performance inscription and BMW M Performance accent stripes in two colour versions.
An cockpit ambience inspired by motor racing is created by the BMW M Performance sports steering wheel in Alcantara/carbon finish with red central marking and Race Display in 12-o'clock position, a gear lever and handbrake handle in carbon and an Alcantara gaiter. A carbon finish is likewise available for the gear selector switch of the automatic transmission. Other features available for a highly sporty and individually designed interior include interior strips in carbon and Alcantara, high-grade steel pedals and a driver footrest in corresponding design.
The BMW M Performance Power Kit available for the BMW 220d Coupé creates perfect starting conditions, increasing the output of the 4-cylinder diesel engine by 12 kW/16 bhp to 147 kW/200 bhp and maximum torque by 40 Nm to 420 Nm. The increased sprint capacity achieved has no impact on fuel consumption and exhaust emission figures. A BMW M Performance silencer system is available for the BMW M235i Coupé which reduces exhaust gas pressure to produce a striking, sports-style sound. In addition BMW M Performance tailpipe trim elements are offered in chrome or carbon, bearing the M logo.
A highlight in the suspension area is the BMW M Performance limited-slip differential available for the BMW M235i Coupé. When the dynamic stability control function DSC is deactivated, the torque-sensitive mechanical limited-slip differential in the rear axle ensures traction-optimised distribution of drive torque between the rear wheels. It reduces the slip that occurs on the wheel with less grip by transferring more drive power to the other wheels using a blocking effect. This converts engine power into forward momentum as effectively as possible so as to be able to accelerate out of a bend even more dynamically, for instance.
Products available for all model variants include the BMW M Performance sports suspension including a lowering of 20 millimetres as compared to the standard version, as well as specific dampers and shortened coil springs finished in red, and the especially light and high-capacity BMW M Performance brake system with brake calipers painted in a choice of red, yellow or orange. 19-inch forged BMW M Performance light alloy wheels are also available in two design versions.
The exterior components created to optimise aerodynamic properties have been developed with characteristic M precision. As a supplement to the M sports package available ex works and in conjunction with the BMW M Performance rear spoiler in carbon there is a BMW M Performance Aerodynamic Kit available for the front apron which has been tailored specifically to this model. The combination of air ducting elements at front and rear guarantees an ideal aerodynamic balance and can be supplemented with a diffuser insert for the rear apron as well as attachments for the side sills. Other individual accents to the outer appearance of the BMW 2 Series Coupé can be added by means of a black decorative grid for the BMW kidney grille, exterior caps in carbon, side sill foils with M Performance inscription and BMW M Performance accent stripes in two colour versions.
An cockpit ambience inspired by motor racing is created by the BMW M Performance sports steering wheel in Alcantara/carbon finish with red central marking and Race Display in 12-o'clock position, a gear lever and handbrake handle in carbon and an Alcantara gaiter. A carbon finish is likewise available for the gear selector switch of the automatic transmission. Other features available for a highly sporty and individually designed interior include interior strips in carbon and Alcantara, high-grade steel pedals and a driver footrest in corresponding design.
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#125
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That white one with M package looks freaking hawt.
#127
Azine Jabroni
Good, but not $50k good.
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dat interior doe....
I love the Audi/BMW/MB line up....wish Honda/Acura has a better line up....
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http://www.autoweek.com/article/2014...NEWS/140109913
BMW has revealed a new autonomous driving assistant system that is capable of operating a car in a range of different driving situations -- even sending it into a wild oversteer drift on a circuit without any prompting or input from the driver. It's all part of a host of new technologies shown by the German car maker at this week's International CES (aka Consumer Electronics Show) in Las Vegas.
Fitted to a prototype version of the soon-to-be-introduced M235i Coupe, the advanced system has been developed by BMW's Technik division in Munich, Germany as part of a program that aims to make cars fully autonomous by the end of the decade, when vital juristic changes to road worthiness laws across the globe are expected to allow such technology to be introduced to regular production cars.
Touting GPS technology used in the latest guided missile system as well as state of the art sonar radar, BMW's latest autonomous driving assistant system actively intervenes in the decision making of the driving process, operating the accelerator, steering and brakes fully independent of the driver.
Phoning home while drifting around your favorite track. Checking e-mails while your car autonomously launches off the line with a smokey burnout. Updating your Facebook page while pulling over 100 mph up the back straight. With BMW's latest technology, such scenarios are no longer a pipe dream, but reality. The question is: how long will it take lawmakers to play ball?
Fitted to a prototype version of the soon-to-be-introduced M235i Coupe, the advanced system has been developed by BMW's Technik division in Munich, Germany as part of a program that aims to make cars fully autonomous by the end of the decade, when vital juristic changes to road worthiness laws across the globe are expected to allow such technology to be introduced to regular production cars.
Touting GPS technology used in the latest guided missile system as well as state of the art sonar radar, BMW's latest autonomous driving assistant system actively intervenes in the decision making of the driving process, operating the accelerator, steering and brakes fully independent of the driver.
Phoning home while drifting around your favorite track. Checking e-mails while your car autonomously launches off the line with a smokey burnout. Updating your Facebook page while pulling over 100 mph up the back straight. With BMW's latest technology, such scenarios are no longer a pipe dream, but reality. The question is: how long will it take lawmakers to play ball?
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Now anyone can be a drift champ
That is pretty cool
That is pretty cool
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wasted tech....now even Justin Bieber will look like a rockstar....
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World Debut
http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=934357
It is hard for find another car for $40k that will match M235i overall package.
2 things that i don't like:
M badge on the front fender and WTF is up with silver mirror cover?? it is not even real aluminum!
http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=934357
It is hard for find another car for $40k that will match M235i overall package.
2 things that i don't like:
M badge on the front fender and WTF is up with silver mirror cover?? it is not even real aluminum!
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World Debut
http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=934357
It is hard for find another car for $40k that will match M235i overall package.
2 things that i don't like:
M badge on the front fender and WTF is up with silver mirror cover?? it is not even real aluminum!
http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=934357
It is hard for find another car for $40k that will match M235i overall package.
2 things that i don't like:
M badge on the front fender and WTF is up with silver mirror cover?? it is not even real aluminum!
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Looks great. Would be super fun to drive.
A 235i with some packages will certainly be around $50k.
A 235i with some packages will certainly be around $50k.
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At $50k I'd take the C7, and everyone knows I hate the C7.
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I dont see people cross shopping the C7 with the M235i though.
http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...tionId=4973881
Can build your M235i now. Mine came out to about 47k. After haggling im sure it can be had for $45k.
http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...tionId=4973881
Can build your M235i now. Mine came out to about 47k. After haggling im sure it can be had for $45k.
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You buying one, Jesal?
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I dont see people cross shopping the C7 with the M235i though.
http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...tionId=4973881
Can build your M235i now. Mine came out to about 47k. After haggling im sure it can be had for $45k.
http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...tionId=4973881
Can build your M235i now. Mine came out to about 47k. After haggling im sure it can be had for $45k.
#147
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Please compare base price because ANY car can get really expensive fully loaded.
Besides most of the popular options are all standard on M235.
M Sport
M brake
Sunroof
HID
If i were to get 1, the only option will be standalone Navi which is less than $2000.
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We have similar "issues". My wife thinks I'm so weird pricing cars out. She was giving me a hard time pricing out the Porsche 918...
Her: "You planning to get a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th mortgage on that stupid car...?"
Me: "...."
#149
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Yes, me too. My wife has caught me building M5 and M6 Gran Coupes on the BMW website more than once. I still don't own one, though.
#150
Fahrvergnügen'd
starts at 43k.
Please compare base price because ANY car can get really expensive fully loaded.
Besides most of the popular options are all standard on M235.
M Sport
M brake
Sunroof
HID
If i were to get 1, the only option will be standalone Navi which is less than $2000.
Please compare base price because ANY car can get really expensive fully loaded.
Besides most of the popular options are all standard on M235.
M Sport
M brake
Sunroof
HID
If i were to get 1, the only option will be standalone Navi which is less than $2000.
#151
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What options do you think should be standard that are not standard on 235?
Brembo, Msport, HID, sunroof, bluetooth, 7" screen, memory seat. what else do you want for a base model?
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i dont get it....why not just do an M2 ???
#153
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M235i is not a real M.
It is basically a 235i with M sport + PPK (Performance package Kit, that you can purchase separately for 3 and 4 series) + M sport brakes.
But from the website it does not seem there is a 235i, only M235i. Don't get confused because it has M in it.
With the way that how BMW is whoring out every possible model, i would not be surprised if there is a M2 within the next 2 years.
It is basically a 235i with M sport + PPK (Performance package Kit, that you can purchase separately for 3 and 4 series) + M sport brakes.
But from the website it does not seem there is a 235i, only M235i. Don't get confused because it has M in it.
With the way that how BMW is whoring out every possible model, i would not be surprised if there is a M2 within the next 2 years.
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exactly my point....
just do a 235i with M sport package....so am guessing there will be a M335i as well? LOL....
just do a 235i with M sport package....so am guessing there will be a M335i as well? LOL....
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I consider base where it says base MSRP.
With destination + options = total MSRP.
Some people do choose to do Euro Delivery.
With destination + options = total MSRP.
Some people do choose to do Euro Delivery.
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BMW M235i is Faster on Track Than 1M Coupe
We had a chance to sit down with Oliver Ganser, Product Strategy and Market Intelligence Manager at BMW, to discuss the M235i and 228i Coupes [Official Thread], which are having their world public debuts at Detroit this week and next. See our M235i/228i photos from the show.
Q: Does the M235i share the same electric power steering (EPS) system as the F20 M135i?
A: It's the same system as the M135i, but different than the new M3/M4's EPS. The EPS in the M3/M4 received a lot of structural improvements.
Q: What improvements were made to the N55 engine for the M235i application, if any?
A: It's a normal N55 engine, but receives an enforced camshaft (cast iron was replaced by steel), adjusted software engine mapping, and improved cooling system.
Q: Does the M235i manual transmission feature rev matching?
A: Not yet.
Q: Does the M235i feature active sound design like the M135i?
A: Yes.
Q: Are the M Sport brakes better than the 6 piston brakes from the E82 135i?
A: The 4 piston fixed caliper together with the tires gets you better braking performance than the 6 piston E82 135i brakes. The brakes on the M235i are very similar to the standard M3/M4 brakes. The biggest difference is that the M3 has a larger brake disc. The M235i was tuned by the M division afterall.
Q: How do the different available suspension compare?
A: The 228i has four suspension levels - standard, M Sport (which gives a lower ride but no adaptive function), Adaptive M (discussed below), and M Performance.
The M235i in the US has no optional suspension, except the upcoming M Performance Suspension. The M235i comes standard with Adaptive M Suspension. But, even if you were to equip a 228i with Adaptive M Suspension, it's a different system than in the M235i. They share everything except that there are electronic valves on the dampers of the M235i, which help it stick even better to the road and react better, as well as providing a smoother and less bumpy ride. This is something unique that you can only get on the M235i (and no other 2 Series).
[BIMMERPOST: For information on the M Performance Suspension for the M235i/228i, we will speak to M Performance Product Specialists at a later time].
Q: Does the M Adaptive Suspension behave differently in Sport and Comfort modes?
A: The suspension remains adaptive in both modes, but differs in stiffness between the two modes.
Q: Will there be Individual options for the 2 Series?
A: Not at this time. Leipzig is not an Individual-capable plant right now.
Q: What is the timeframe for the convertible 2 Series?
A: We stopped the 1 Series convertible production already. If there was a successor [BIMMERPOST: which, of course has already been spied], we don't want to have 2-3 years in between cars.
Q: Can the US expect xDrive models?
A: I think we learned our lesson on not having xDrive. In the Northern and Eastern parts of the country, xDrive is one of the main elements to sell cars. There's a good chance the cars will offered with xDrive.
Q: When will the M Performance Parts for the 2 Series be available?
A: Those responsible for them are trying to get these parts out as soon as possible, but I think we have to talk about the parts individually when talking about availability dates. They could become available piecemeal - at different times. The limited slip differential (LSD) is one of the popular parts people are waiting for. BMW itself is producing these; they're not bought off the shelf. And the demand for it is far exceeding our initial estimates. We were scaling production for x amount, but now the demand looks much higher. So the question is how do we get these parts out. [BMW is working hard on it.]
Q: Will M Performance Parts be factory, port or dealer installed?
A: They will be port or dealer installed. That is the current plan.
Q: Any plans for diesel models?
A: There are no plans currently for diesel models for the US.
Q: Should we expect an gran coupe or M2 model?
A: Everything is possible. We will not let our folks down. We will have something that is really exciting.
Interesting tidbit that came up during our interview: "What we have seen on our tracks is that this car [M235i] is faster than a 1M Coupe." This backs up what Klaus Froehlich, Senior Vice President Brand and Product Strategies at BMW, said in an interview last year - that the M235i will beat the 1M Coupe around the Nurburgring.
Also see: 2014 BMW M235i and 228i Pricing Guide (U.S.)
http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=935130
We had a chance to sit down with Oliver Ganser, Product Strategy and Market Intelligence Manager at BMW, to discuss the M235i and 228i Coupes [Official Thread], which are having their world public debuts at Detroit this week and next. See our M235i/228i photos from the show.
Q: Does the M235i share the same electric power steering (EPS) system as the F20 M135i?
A: It's the same system as the M135i, but different than the new M3/M4's EPS. The EPS in the M3/M4 received a lot of structural improvements.
Q: What improvements were made to the N55 engine for the M235i application, if any?
A: It's a normal N55 engine, but receives an enforced camshaft (cast iron was replaced by steel), adjusted software engine mapping, and improved cooling system.
Q: Does the M235i manual transmission feature rev matching?
A: Not yet.
Q: Does the M235i feature active sound design like the M135i?
A: Yes.
Q: Are the M Sport brakes better than the 6 piston brakes from the E82 135i?
A: The 4 piston fixed caliper together with the tires gets you better braking performance than the 6 piston E82 135i brakes. The brakes on the M235i are very similar to the standard M3/M4 brakes. The biggest difference is that the M3 has a larger brake disc. The M235i was tuned by the M division afterall.
Q: How do the different available suspension compare?
A: The 228i has four suspension levels - standard, M Sport (which gives a lower ride but no adaptive function), Adaptive M (discussed below), and M Performance.
The M235i in the US has no optional suspension, except the upcoming M Performance Suspension. The M235i comes standard with Adaptive M Suspension. But, even if you were to equip a 228i with Adaptive M Suspension, it's a different system than in the M235i. They share everything except that there are electronic valves on the dampers of the M235i, which help it stick even better to the road and react better, as well as providing a smoother and less bumpy ride. This is something unique that you can only get on the M235i (and no other 2 Series).
[BIMMERPOST: For information on the M Performance Suspension for the M235i/228i, we will speak to M Performance Product Specialists at a later time].
Q: Does the M Adaptive Suspension behave differently in Sport and Comfort modes?
A: The suspension remains adaptive in both modes, but differs in stiffness between the two modes.
Q: Will there be Individual options for the 2 Series?
A: Not at this time. Leipzig is not an Individual-capable plant right now.
Q: What is the timeframe for the convertible 2 Series?
A: We stopped the 1 Series convertible production already. If there was a successor [BIMMERPOST: which, of course has already been spied], we don't want to have 2-3 years in between cars.
Q: Can the US expect xDrive models?
A: I think we learned our lesson on not having xDrive. In the Northern and Eastern parts of the country, xDrive is one of the main elements to sell cars. There's a good chance the cars will offered with xDrive.
Q: When will the M Performance Parts for the 2 Series be available?
A: Those responsible for them are trying to get these parts out as soon as possible, but I think we have to talk about the parts individually when talking about availability dates. They could become available piecemeal - at different times. The limited slip differential (LSD) is one of the popular parts people are waiting for. BMW itself is producing these; they're not bought off the shelf. And the demand for it is far exceeding our initial estimates. We were scaling production for x amount, but now the demand looks much higher. So the question is how do we get these parts out. [BMW is working hard on it.]
Q: Will M Performance Parts be factory, port or dealer installed?
A: They will be port or dealer installed. That is the current plan.
Q: Any plans for diesel models?
A: There are no plans currently for diesel models for the US.
Q: Should we expect an gran coupe or M2 model?
A: Everything is possible. We will not let our folks down. We will have something that is really exciting.
Interesting tidbit that came up during our interview: "What we have seen on our tracks is that this car [M235i] is faster than a 1M Coupe." This backs up what Klaus Froehlich, Senior Vice President Brand and Product Strategies at BMW, said in an interview last year - that the M235i will beat the 1M Coupe around the Nurburgring.
Also see: 2014 BMW M235i and 228i Pricing Guide (U.S.)
http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=935130
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That M235i is an intriguing little car.