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Great ad by BMW...
#163
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Would you buy it if it was a wagon?!??
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yummy....thanks for the video man....great effin commericial....loved it
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Video for the Active Tourer...
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http://jalopnik.com/2015-bmw-2-serie...ron-1522483814
I hope they make a 4 door gran coupe 2 series too.
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We've already made a lot of fun of the BMW 2-Series Active Tourer. It's the Ford C-Max with a posh badge. That's not the biggest deal, though. This is the first front-wheel drive machine with a BMW logo on the front. Take a deep breath.
Never mind that "active tourer" sounds a little like a yoga mat. Get used to more FWD BMWs in the future – and some of them might be swankier to look at than this. But the 2-series Active Tourer, which officially debuts next month at the Geneva Motor Show, looks like it's going to be a practical and stylish package.
The interior shares a lot of current BMW cues, although it looks like there's more shelf and cubby space than in a 2-series coupe, for example. Let's forget the whole BMW naming scheme is screwed up.
But speaking of the 2 coupe, the top-range 225i Active Tourer will carry the 2.0-liter turbo four from that car. For people who think their Active Tourer doesn't look active enough, there will be an M Sport package available. No official word on U.S. availability, yet, though. BMW's North American execs have been eager to bring this car to the States, though.
They might as well. Don't you picture this becoming a staple outside of a Starbucks that's two doors away from the Pottery Barn that's across the way from a Lululemon?
Never mind that "active tourer" sounds a little like a yoga mat. Get used to more FWD BMWs in the future – and some of them might be swankier to look at than this. But the 2-series Active Tourer, which officially debuts next month at the Geneva Motor Show, looks like it's going to be a practical and stylish package.
The interior shares a lot of current BMW cues, although it looks like there's more shelf and cubby space than in a 2-series coupe, for example. Let's forget the whole BMW naming scheme is screwed up.
But speaking of the 2 coupe, the top-range 225i Active Tourer will carry the 2.0-liter turbo four from that car. For people who think their Active Tourer doesn't look active enough, there will be an M Sport package available. No official word on U.S. availability, yet, though. BMW's North American execs have been eager to bring this car to the States, though.
They might as well. Don't you picture this becoming a staple outside of a Starbucks that's two doors away from the Pottery Barn that's across the way from a Lululemon?
I hope they make a 4 door gran coupe 2 series too.
#168
Kill this before it multiplies!
I've lived through Bangle. I've lived through the naming bullshit. I've seen the death of the N/A straight six. I've even seen the stupid, stupid i3.
But this? This isn't a BMW. This isn't anything resembling a BMW. This is the symbol of a lost brand.
Anyone remember when these used to be the ultimate driving machines?
I've lived through Bangle. I've lived through the naming bullshit. I've seen the death of the N/A straight six. I've even seen the stupid, stupid i3.
But this? This isn't a BMW. This isn't anything resembling a BMW. This is the symbol of a lost brand.
Anyone remember when these used to be the ultimate driving machines?
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Out of 45 models, 15 will be FWD... that kind of stinks.
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FWD BMW. Blech.
#174
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Probably. BMW is diluting the brand so much right now. 8 million different models. The i3 electric city car. The FWD Active Tourer. Putting "M" on anything with 4 wheels. Very disappointing.
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That M badge gives you as much power as 245 summer tires do.
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Me either, a loaded up M235 came in at $49K while a base C7 starts at $51K. I would think these two vehicles attract vastly different people but I could be way off-base. As someone else said, a CPO M235 a couple years later might be the way to go.
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First Drive:
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz2vI3hAuBU
Quick little bugger.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz2vI3hAuBU
Someone in my neighborhood has a 1 Series M. It's hard to miss, with its wide fenders and quad exhaust pipes. It's orange, too, as if to further point out that there are just 739 like it in the U.S. and you don't have one. Whenever I see a 1 Series M, I think of this car's owner with no shortage of jealousy. Or, at least, I used to, because now there's the BMW M235i. You might not expect this to be the case. The M235i name, aside from being about as clumsy as that of the orange 1M, sounds dubious. The M division had little to do with its creation -- never mind what the 16 M badges adorning the car imply. The 3.0-liter turbo I-6 is the engine we know from the 3 and 4 Series (though it's rated 20 hp higher here), as is the eight-speed automatic. It only has two exhaust pipes, and it comes with an open differential (a limited-slip diff is optional, but pricing hasn't been announced yet). Further, it's bigger than the 1M and 155 pounds heavier by our scales. And though its Michelin Pilot Super Sports are newer, they're smaller than the 1M's Pilot Sport PS2's (225/40ZR18 88Y front, 245/35ZR18 92Y rear versus 245/35ZR19 93Y front, 265/35ZR19 rear).
The M badges remain curious, then. Few remember the precedent set by the 1985 M535i, but many know That Guy with the badges plastered all over his 3 Series. Guess which one you'll initially feel like in the M235i. "Initially" is the key word, because the more I drove the M235i, the more it reminded me of that orange 1M, and the more the jealousy started to disappear. Consider the performance data. The 1M was a party-sized M3, putting down the same numbers as its V-8 big brother. But despite the M235i's perceived shortcomings, it's right on the pace of those two. At 4.4 seconds to 60 mph and 13.0 seconds to the quarter mile (fastest run performed without launch control), the M235i is just 0.2 second behind the 1M. Braking performance is improved too, with a best stop of 103 feet from 60 mph (better by 2 feet). Most interesting, the M235i's 0.97 g skidpad average and 24.9-second figure-eight lap time is off the 1M's pace by just 0.01 average g and 0.1 second, respectively. The M235i could be faster, too. Our test car didn't have that optional locking diff, and, as a result, had difficulty on corner exit in the figure eight.
While track-minded M235i adopters should consider the differential, the open-diff configuration works well on the road. Set stability control to its intermediate setting, called Traction Mode, and the brakes intervene with the spinning wheel, keeping it in line. You can carry good amounts of throttle through corners, and the car seldom needs steering corrections on exit. A touch of looseness makes the rear feel lively, but you quickly learn to trust and enjoy it. Sticky Super Sport tires afford high entry and mid-corner speeds, and understeer is nonexistent. The straight-six offers a broad, lag-free powerband, with a strong midrange that transitions to a pleasingly urgent pull as you near the 7000 rpm redline. And that automatic's ratio spread keeps the engine working right in the sweet spot; you might guess the tach changes only by 500 rpm during two-three and three-four upshifts. In Sport and Sport+ modes, downshifts are quick and become more aggressive the harder you get on the brakes, but they don't lose the smoothness you notice while driving normally around town. The M235i is one of the best-driving BMWs in recent memory, on par with the 1M and the last-generation M3 not only in performance standards, but also in how much it makes you smile. Even more tantalizing, a stickier and more powerful M2 is surely in development. But for now, the M235i's non-limited production numbers mean you too can have one. You no longer have to be jealous of orange 1Ms running around your neighborhood. Considering how much better the M235i looks, it might even go the other way around.
The M badges remain curious, then. Few remember the precedent set by the 1985 M535i, but many know That Guy with the badges plastered all over his 3 Series. Guess which one you'll initially feel like in the M235i. "Initially" is the key word, because the more I drove the M235i, the more it reminded me of that orange 1M, and the more the jealousy started to disappear. Consider the performance data. The 1M was a party-sized M3, putting down the same numbers as its V-8 big brother. But despite the M235i's perceived shortcomings, it's right on the pace of those two. At 4.4 seconds to 60 mph and 13.0 seconds to the quarter mile (fastest run performed without launch control), the M235i is just 0.2 second behind the 1M. Braking performance is improved too, with a best stop of 103 feet from 60 mph (better by 2 feet). Most interesting, the M235i's 0.97 g skidpad average and 24.9-second figure-eight lap time is off the 1M's pace by just 0.01 average g and 0.1 second, respectively. The M235i could be faster, too. Our test car didn't have that optional locking diff, and, as a result, had difficulty on corner exit in the figure eight.
While track-minded M235i adopters should consider the differential, the open-diff configuration works well on the road. Set stability control to its intermediate setting, called Traction Mode, and the brakes intervene with the spinning wheel, keeping it in line. You can carry good amounts of throttle through corners, and the car seldom needs steering corrections on exit. A touch of looseness makes the rear feel lively, but you quickly learn to trust and enjoy it. Sticky Super Sport tires afford high entry and mid-corner speeds, and understeer is nonexistent. The straight-six offers a broad, lag-free powerband, with a strong midrange that transitions to a pleasingly urgent pull as you near the 7000 rpm redline. And that automatic's ratio spread keeps the engine working right in the sweet spot; you might guess the tach changes only by 500 rpm during two-three and three-four upshifts. In Sport and Sport+ modes, downshifts are quick and become more aggressive the harder you get on the brakes, but they don't lose the smoothness you notice while driving normally around town. The M235i is one of the best-driving BMWs in recent memory, on par with the 1M and the last-generation M3 not only in performance standards, but also in how much it makes you smile. Even more tantalizing, a stickier and more powerful M2 is surely in development. But for now, the M235i's non-limited production numbers mean you too can have one. You no longer have to be jealous of orange 1Ms running around your neighborhood. Considering how much better the M235i looks, it might even go the other way around.
Quick little bugger.
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This is old, but I don't care about what the shareholders care about. Brand dilution at its finest. All this coming from someone who doesn't care about badges.
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Seven-Seat BMW 2-Series Gran Tourer Spied
Uh huh.
From here: http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...urer-spy-shots
From here: http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...urer-spy-shots
BMW is out creating new niches yet again, with its latest prototype signaling a premium seven-seat compact MPV is on the horizon. The vehicle is essentially a seven-seat version of the recently revealed 2-Series Active Tourer, which features five seats and is the first BMW model to ride on the new UKL front-wheel-drive platform that debuted in the 2014 MINI Cooper.
This seven-seat version, distinguished by its stretched rear doors and extra-long rear overhang, should arrive towards the end of 2014 or early next year. Some of the shots show it next to its five-seat sibling, revealing the differences between the two, at least, externally. The expected name for the vehicle is 2-Series Gran Tourer.
Given the car's premium positioning, compact size and seven-seat configuration, the vehicle will have no direct rival, though the more affordable Fiat 500L, which comes in a seven-seat version overseas, may prove an alternative. Other potential rivals include the slightly larger Mazda 5, Opel Zafira and Volkswagen Sharan, though all of these are targeted at families on a budget. As you may have guessed by the list of rivals, this seven-seat BMW 2-Series Gran Tourer is unlikely to be offered in the U.S., though its smaller sibling is expected here in 2015.
The vehicle’s engine lineup should mirror that of the smaller 2-Series Active Tourer, meaning a series of three- and four-cylinder units, all of them turbocharged. The top model will be a 225i and at the other end of the spectrum will be a diesel-powered 218d. The 225i is powered by a turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder delivering 231 horsepower. Further down the track, a hybrid version of the five-seat Active Tourer is due. It’s unlikely the hybrid will come with the seven-seat configuration of the Gran Tourer.
This seven-seat version, distinguished by its stretched rear doors and extra-long rear overhang, should arrive towards the end of 2014 or early next year. Some of the shots show it next to its five-seat sibling, revealing the differences between the two, at least, externally. The expected name for the vehicle is 2-Series Gran Tourer.
Given the car's premium positioning, compact size and seven-seat configuration, the vehicle will have no direct rival, though the more affordable Fiat 500L, which comes in a seven-seat version overseas, may prove an alternative. Other potential rivals include the slightly larger Mazda 5, Opel Zafira and Volkswagen Sharan, though all of these are targeted at families on a budget. As you may have guessed by the list of rivals, this seven-seat BMW 2-Series Gran Tourer is unlikely to be offered in the U.S., though its smaller sibling is expected here in 2015.
The vehicle’s engine lineup should mirror that of the smaller 2-Series Active Tourer, meaning a series of three- and four-cylinder units, all of them turbocharged. The top model will be a 225i and at the other end of the spectrum will be a diesel-powered 218d. The 225i is powered by a turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder delivering 231 horsepower. Further down the track, a hybrid version of the five-seat Active Tourer is due. It’s unlikely the hybrid will come with the seven-seat configuration of the Gran Tourer.
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Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
#183
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That 2-Series Grand Tourer - .
I'll say it again - this model expansion is out of control.
I'll say it again - this model expansion is out of control.
#184
Some dude
At least the coupe looks really nice.
#185
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Can you blame BMW for milking it with the market...? People are buying luxury goods at an all-time high these days...so, if their marketing/sales team believes there are those nimrods who would pay $$$ for a 7-seat minivan...why not?
#186
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I won't stop snickering and laughing when I see some smug person thinking they bought a BMW drive by in the 7-seater though.
#187
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A quick OT...passed a 650 GranCoupe...holy momma...the things I would do to that car.
#188
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Agreed.
I don't know...at what point to do they dilute the most important intangible asset on the virtual balance sheet; their brand cache'?
This.
This.
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#190
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when there is too much of a good thing, it is usually not good.
and the headlight/taillight and grilles do not look very BMWish.
and the headlight/taillight and grilles do not look very BMWish.
#191
Midnight Marauder
Geeze, they can't milk this brand equity forever. Someday BMW will mean nothing.
#193
Team Owner
FWD is the new King of performance according to the video TL-S vs IS350 and G35.
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#195
The sizzle in the Steak
Oh for crying out loud....that thing looks comical
#196
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Track Package Announced
From here: http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...for-228i-coupe
Sure, the BMW M235i would be a wonderful machine to put in your driveway or garage. It's not cheap though, and perhaps the 228i might be more in line with your budget. That doesn't mean you can't gain access to a vehicle that wants to reward you when the going gets twisty. BMW has just announced an option for those looking to extract more from their compact two-door. It's called the Track Handling Package, and it's jam-packed with enthusiasts goodies.
Should you check this box on the options list, your 228i will come equipped with M Adaptive suspension, a set of Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires, 18-inch light-alloy wheels, Variable Sport Steering, and the M Sport brakes. That's a healthy list of smile-inducing bits, and it's easy proof of why you should be checking the aforementioned box on the aforementioned options list.
A BMW 228i equipped with this package will sit 10mm lower than the standard coupe, and the adaptive suspension will have the car working out exactly how it should be sitting for each new corner. This is done by adjusting the damping of the suspension at each wheel, and it does so in mere milliseconds. Those tires will have you sticking to the road, and the M Sport brakes will haul in the speed quite effortlessly.
There's no word yet on what the package will cost, but it should be an easy sale for any enthusiast-minded shopper that's pulling the trigger on the new BMW 228i.
Should you check this box on the options list, your 228i will come equipped with M Adaptive suspension, a set of Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires, 18-inch light-alloy wheels, Variable Sport Steering, and the M Sport brakes. That's a healthy list of smile-inducing bits, and it's easy proof of why you should be checking the aforementioned box on the aforementioned options list.
A BMW 228i equipped with this package will sit 10mm lower than the standard coupe, and the adaptive suspension will have the car working out exactly how it should be sitting for each new corner. This is done by adjusting the damping of the suspension at each wheel, and it does so in mere milliseconds. Those tires will have you sticking to the road, and the M Sport brakes will haul in the speed quite effortlessly.
There's no word yet on what the package will cost, but it should be an easy sale for any enthusiast-minded shopper that's pulling the trigger on the new BMW 228i.
#197
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http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=994620
i might have to reconsider my options for my next car.
Talking about over the top fenders on a small car
i might have to reconsider my options for my next car.
Talking about over the top fenders on a small car
#198
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Check out the "Drift Mob" marketing video BMW created for the M235i...
#199
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^^^^Looks.Like.Fun.
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