BMW: 2-Series News
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https://www.carscoops.com/2022/10/20...he-goosebumps/
We always knew that M Performance Parts would follow shortly after the launch of the 2023 BMW M2 to rekindle the flames of our interest in the new sport coupe, but there’s no need to wait because we can, apparently, already see them.
Instagram’s Wilcoblok has posted a set of official-looking photos of the new M2 said to be sourced directly from BMW M with a range of performance parts on. While the standard car isn’t exactly what you’d call conservative, these add-ons take the design over-the-top.
Compared by many to the last-generation Honda Civic Type R due to its big wing and abundance of strakes, the M Performance parts are proving to be controversial. In response to the photos, one commentor to Wilcoblok’s post wrote that “they just made it worse!”
You can decide for yourself, though, whether the new parts are an improvement or not. They appear to include an extended front splitter that rises up along the sides of the bumper ahead of the front wheels. The side inlets on the bumper also have diagonal strakes, instead of straight ones.
Black mirror caps, meanwhile, can be found a little farther back on the M2, and there are black strakes pointing rearward from the back of all four wheel arches. In front of the rear wheel arches, meanwhile, there are L-shaped brackets.
Up higher, there are two aero elements. The first is a spoiler at the very top of the rear window and the second is a larger wing that arches over the trunk. At the back, the bumper gets new black fillers, and the exhaust tips are moved to the center of the bumper, in much the same way as can be done to the M4. On the hood, meanwhile, M2 script can be seen at the center of the power bulge.
The opposite of subtle, these alleged M Performance parts make the standard M2 look reserved by comparison. Fortunately, they are fully optional, so those to whom they do not appeal can simply ignore them. For those who are interested in them, you can check back in with us when pricing becomes available.
Instagram’s Wilcoblok has posted a set of official-looking photos of the new M2 said to be sourced directly from BMW M with a range of performance parts on. While the standard car isn’t exactly what you’d call conservative, these add-ons take the design over-the-top.
Compared by many to the last-generation Honda Civic Type R due to its big wing and abundance of strakes, the M Performance parts are proving to be controversial. In response to the photos, one commentor to Wilcoblok’s post wrote that “they just made it worse!”
You can decide for yourself, though, whether the new parts are an improvement or not. They appear to include an extended front splitter that rises up along the sides of the bumper ahead of the front wheels. The side inlets on the bumper also have diagonal strakes, instead of straight ones.
Black mirror caps, meanwhile, can be found a little farther back on the M2, and there are black strakes pointing rearward from the back of all four wheel arches. In front of the rear wheel arches, meanwhile, there are L-shaped brackets.
Up higher, there are two aero elements. The first is a spoiler at the very top of the rear window and the second is a larger wing that arches over the trunk. At the back, the bumper gets new black fillers, and the exhaust tips are moved to the center of the bumper, in much the same way as can be done to the M4. On the hood, meanwhile, M2 script can be seen at the center of the power bulge.
The opposite of subtle, these alleged M Performance parts make the standard M2 look reserved by comparison. Fortunately, they are fully optional, so those to whom they do not appeal can simply ignore them. For those who are interested in them, you can check back in with us when pricing becomes available.
#442
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Nice civic type r you got there
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#443
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I was like ehhhhhhh all about it..... these design influences are just in the wrong direction..... and that was BEFORE I found out it weighs over 3800 lbs. W. T. F.
#444
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Naturally the M2 would be right up there too. considering it has 2 turbos and weights about the same as M240i, that is pretty good already by current BMW's standard.
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#445
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A big difference is that the M240 is AWD and the M2 is RWD...so where's all that weight in the M2 coming from?
#446
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M240i Xdrive is close to 3900 lbs and M2 with TT with more hardwares are about 80 - 90 lbs lighter... i guess that is where the difference is being RWD?
Considering G80 M3 Xdrive is about 100 lbs heavier than RWD M3... The #s do add up. BMW's M and Mlite model's Xdrives dont really add that much weight to the car compare to RWD models.
The moment BMW decided to use G20 as the platform for the new 2 series including M2, the weight difference will be very minimal and none of them will be light... especially when they literally all have the same interior.
BMW probably could have save some weight if they used the Z4/Supra's platform for M2, even if they had to stretch it a little.... But BMW decides that Supersize the M2 was a better idea....so there is that.
Considering G80 M3 Xdrive is about 100 lbs heavier than RWD M3... The #s do add up. BMW's M and Mlite model's Xdrives dont really add that much weight to the car compare to RWD models.
The moment BMW decided to use G20 as the platform for the new 2 series including M2, the weight difference will be very minimal and none of them will be light... especially when they literally all have the same interior.
BMW probably could have save some weight if they used the Z4/Supra's platform for M2, even if they had to stretch it a little.... But BMW decides that Supersize the M2 was a better idea....so there is that.
Last edited by oonowindoo; 10-17-2022 at 04:52 PM.
#447
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If that's the case then the weight penalty for AWD is minimal and all of them should be AWD for far better performance. Guessing they stuck with RWD for the manual option as well as the marketing matieral.
#448
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The M240i shares the same interior, same platform, same engine as the G20 3 series and they are almost the same size too.... i never expected it to be much lighter than a M340i... cuz i dont know where they could possibly trim the fat.
Naturally the M2 would be right up there too. considering it has 2 turbos and weights about the same as M240i, that is pretty good already by current BMW's standard.
Naturally the M2 would be right up there too. considering it has 2 turbos and weights about the same as M240i, that is pretty good already by current BMW's standard.
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This redesign is just awful. What were they thinking?
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But, BMW badge, so people will still buy it.
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#453
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Unfortunately this redesign just means that the resale value of the old M2 isn't coming down anytime soon just like the resale value of the old M3/4 is still silly high.
#454
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I would buy it if i can get 1 at MSRP... honestly, regardless what it looks like... RWD 6mt performances cars are hard to come by nowadays.... I would take it while they last.
The other one would be M3 RWD 6mt... now that is even uglier... actually i dont even think it exists anymore on BMW USA anymore last time i checked.
The other one would be M3 RWD 6mt... now that is even uglier... actually i dont even think it exists anymore on BMW USA anymore last time i checked.
#455
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I would buy it if i can get 1 at MSRP... honestly, regardless what it looks like... RWD 6mt performances cars are hard to come by nowadays.... I would take it while they last.
The other one would be M3 RWD 6mt... now that is even uglier... actually i dont even think it exists anymore on BMW USA anymore last time i checked.
The other one would be M3 RWD 6mt... now that is even uglier... actually i dont even think it exists anymore on BMW USA anymore last time i checked.
Agreed that it's a dying breed but it's fugly and I would drop $65k+ on a car I think is ugly.
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#457
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i personally think M3/M4 is uglier.... not many things can be uglier than that front grill.
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Wow...
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There is also a side profile one where it looks like a scion TC
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And these are OE parts
The seats, steering wheel, gold wheels & ducktail spoiler are ok, the rest is a hard no, for me.
https://www.netcarshow.com/bmw/2023-...ormance_parts/
The seats, steering wheel, gold wheels & ducktail spoiler are ok, the rest is a hard no, for me.
https://www.netcarshow.com/bmw/2023-...ormance_parts/
#465
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There's a huge #vapebro theme going on there...
#466
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WRX bros grew up & buying M2s now?
#467
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Evo XI
#468
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Oh yeah - the M Accessory Parts Catalog.
#469
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I remember M3/M4 has something similar in the M performance accessories catalog. dont recall seeing anyone bought those parts except the front lip.
They r just too ugly and so expensive at the same time.
They r just too ugly and so expensive at the same time.
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Merged into 2-series thread
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I didn't see it, perfect, where it belongs.
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Pretty impressive!
https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a4...m2-dyno-video/
https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a4...m2-dyno-video/
IND Distribution, a performance parts firm in Illinois, got its hands on a new M2 to see just how much power the two-door coupe could lay down at the wheels. The best of three runs showed 464.59 hp and 412.85 lb-ft of torque at the wheels—more hp and torque than BMW quotes at the crank.
On its website, IND factors in a drivetrain loss of 15 percent for drivetrain losses, which suggests a true crank output of 547 hp and 486 lb-ft of torque—a whole lot more than what BMW claims. Even if the losses were more like 5 to 8 percent, figures which have been cited as more typical of modern drivetrains, it's very likely the M2 is making close to 500 hp.
On its website, IND factors in a drivetrain loss of 15 percent for drivetrain losses, which suggests a true crank output of 547 hp and 486 lb-ft of torque—a whole lot more than what BMW claims. Even if the losses were more like 5 to 8 percent, figures which have been cited as more typical of modern drivetrains, it's very likely the M2 is making close to 500 hp.
#475
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damnnnn 500hp on the M2, as Chris Harris would say, is MEGA!!!
#476
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Kinda reminds me of the E60 M5 6mt... it seems the 6mt in the M2 is not really calibrated for the car base on the reviews.
#477
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At least it has one. Count your blessings on that alone.
Most manuals these days are total afterthoughts and marketing ploys at best. Only ones that continue to sorta do it right are BMW, Ford, Porsche, and Honda (CTR and CSi). No one else cares lol.
Most manuals these days are total afterthoughts and marketing ploys at best. Only ones that continue to sorta do it right are BMW, Ford, Porsche, and Honda (CTR and CSi). No one else cares lol.
#478
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Only if BMW could steal Honda's 6mt....
#479
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dang...... why does this..... look.... kinda good.......
#480
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Turn the camera a bit and it all goes back to fugly.
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