BMW: 1-Series News
#1001
Senior Moderator
Looks like this guys car who did european delivery.
This is why I love BMW so much.
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=511414
This is why I love BMW so much.
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=511414
#1002
That's a juicy amount of torque for a twinned inline-6. The IPL Coupe is hideous, the 1M isn't hideous but its just as tacky looking. The M3 is sleek and classy yet still much more aggressive than the base 3-series. The 1M just looks too over the top IMO. It's like BMW made their own version of an Evo. Take your base model, put in a much beefier powertrain with track-oriented suspension and chassis components, along with several interior and exterior touches which include just about a dozen slats, slits and ducts all over the car. Sure, you're getting a whole different car basically. But is it worth the extra $20k?
People wouldn't be so kind if Honda came out with a $30k Civic.... oh wait, they did.
People wouldn't be so kind if Honda came out with a $30k Civic.... oh wait, they did.
#1004
Senior Moderator
That's a juicy amount of torque for a twinned inline-6. The IPL Coupe is hideous, the 1M isn't hideous but its just as tacky looking. The M3 is sleek and classy yet still much more aggressive than the base 3-series. The 1M just looks too over the top IMO. It's like BMW made their own version of an Evo. Take your base model, put in a much beefier powertrain with track-oriented suspension and chassis components, along with several interior and exterior touches which include just about a dozen slats, slits and ducts all over the car. Sure, you're getting a whole different car basically. But is it worth the extra $20k?
People wouldn't be so kind if Honda came out with a $30k Civic.... oh wait, they did.
People wouldn't be so kind if Honda came out with a $30k Civic.... oh wait, they did.
Also from what i read this car was kinda just slapped together in a short time. You can expect the next generation 1M to be vastly different from 135i counterpart.
There is ED retail pricing and ED invoice pricing. You can find dealers will do deal for $500-1k over ED Invoice. Not sure about the 1M though as the demand is there. For the M3 you can though.
#1005
Where did the $20k figure come from? Comparing base pricing, the 1M is only 7k difference between it and the 135i. Which is really a bargain for what you are getting. $7k for m3 suspension, wider bodywork, LSD, upgraded interior, larger wheels, etc, etc...
Also from what i read this car was kinda just slapped together in a short time. You can expect the next generation 1M to be vastly different from 135i counterpart.
Also from what i read this car was kinda just slapped together in a short time. You can expect the next generation 1M to be vastly different from 135i counterpart.
ok, so I lied. I went back and double checked and looked right at the quoted $50k number in iforyou's post, that's as-tested, the base price is $47k. So that's $16k more than the base
#1006
That's uncomfortably close to what i paid for my 135i and I got a great deal on it (like $500 over invoice, 0.9% and no sales tax in OR). True, it has options the 1M wouldn't...none of them I would pay for again however, except the two I mentioned. I'm pretty much happy if nothing breaks and the radio makes noise.
#1007
Three Wheelin'
First Official BMW F20 1-series Hatchback Photos
http://f20.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=539990
Here they are, the very first photos of the F20 BMW 1-series, via Motor-Traffic.de. The full press release is expected this weekend, so stay tuned!
Seen here are "Sport Line" and "Urban Line" models. Compared to the outgoing 1-series hatchback, the F20 has grown by 8.5 centimeters to 4.32 meters in length. Wheelbase grows by 1 inch to 2.69 meters. It retains its 50:50 weight distribution.
Base engine in the BMW 116i with a newly developed 1.6-liter turbo gasoline engine that makes 100 kW/136 hp. For the same displacement, the 118i gets 125 kW/170 hp. Stronger four-cylinder engines (N20) with up to 250 hp will follow.
As for diesel, a two liter diesel engine will be available with three power levels of 85 kW/116 hp, 105 kW/143 hp and 135 kW/184 hp. The fuel consumption figures are 4.3 to 5.8 liters per 100 kilometers.
All models are available with either a six-speed manual transmission or an eight-speed automatic transmission. In addition to numerous efficiency technologies, there is also the start-stop system, a regenerative braking system, and a driving program selector with two modes - "Eco" and "Sport".
Seen here are "Sport Line" and "Urban Line" models. Compared to the outgoing 1-series hatchback, the F20 has grown by 8.5 centimeters to 4.32 meters in length. Wheelbase grows by 1 inch to 2.69 meters. It retains its 50:50 weight distribution.
Base engine in the BMW 116i with a newly developed 1.6-liter turbo gasoline engine that makes 100 kW/136 hp. For the same displacement, the 118i gets 125 kW/170 hp. Stronger four-cylinder engines (N20) with up to 250 hp will follow.
As for diesel, a two liter diesel engine will be available with three power levels of 85 kW/116 hp, 105 kW/143 hp and 135 kW/184 hp. The fuel consumption figures are 4.3 to 5.8 liters per 100 kilometers.
All models are available with either a six-speed manual transmission or an eight-speed automatic transmission. In addition to numerous efficiency technologies, there is also the start-stop system, a regenerative braking system, and a driving program selector with two modes - "Eco" and "Sport".
#1010
Team Owner
Sorry, to make it clear by the base I meant the 128i. According to BMW USA's website the MSRP starts at just under $31k. I'm probably being unfair, I just don't like that front end at all. The rear is starting to bother me less already though....
ok, so I lied. I went back and double checked and looked right at the quoted $50k number in iforyou's post, that's as-tested, the base price is $47k. So that's $16k more than the base
ok, so I lied. I went back and double checked and looked right at the quoted $50k number in iforyou's post, that's as-tested, the base price is $47k. So that's $16k more than the base
You can literally buy 2 328i for the price of 1 M3 or 2 528 for the price of 1 m5.. then the 1M seems like a bargain compare to those.
#1011
I drive a Subata.
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That is fucking ugly.
Sorry I had to say that.
Sorry I had to say that.
#1012
Whats up with RDX owners?
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Hurrrrr durrrrrr.
Thats what I think when I look at it.
Thats what I think when I look at it.
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#1013
The only thing I want in that picture is the chick in the passenger seat.
I have a feeling the new 1 series will be about as cool as the 2nd gen TSX. Nice try but, nowhere near as memorable or interesting as the original. The interior does look maybe a tad more stylish though.
I have a feeling the new 1 series will be about as cool as the 2nd gen TSX. Nice try but, nowhere near as memorable or interesting as the original. The interior does look maybe a tad more stylish though.
Last edited by Brandon24pdx; 06-03-2011 at 11:56 PM.
#1014
Senior Moderator
Hmmm...don't really like the hatchback version.
#1015
Engineer
I like the interior...
I dunno about the front end. I feel like I need to see it in person...
I dunno about the front end. I feel like I need to see it in person...
#1016
The sizzle in the Steak
That's not a good looking hatch.
#1017
LOL here's a cheap BMW and it looks it
#1018
Senior Moderator
Well it sure doesnt make me want one but it much better than the old. IMO
For your reference, compared to the E87, the F20:
For your reference, compared to the E87, the F20:
- Body is 85 mm (3.35 inches) longer
- Wheelbase is 30 mm (1.18 inches) longer
- Front track is 51 mm (2 inches) wider
- Rear track is 72 mm (2.83 inches) wider
#1019
Senior Moderator
BMW 1M to be One-and-Done. Production Ends December 2011.
No 2012 Model Year
A persistent question surrounding the much acclaimed BMW 1 Series M Coupe has always been how long it would be produced for and whether there would be a 2012 model year. We now know for certain.
According to the official BMW model production schedule (attached below), the 1M coupe will end production in December 2011, making a total production run of 10 months. The chart also indicates that there will not be a second (2012) model year.
If recent speculations comes to fruition, the successor to the 1M coupe will be the BMW M2 Coupe, as BMW will switch the next generation small BMW coupe to the 2-series badge.
A persistent question surrounding the much acclaimed BMW 1 Series M Coupe has always been how long it would be produced for and whether there would be a 2012 model year. We now know for certain.
According to the official BMW model production schedule (attached below), the 1M coupe will end production in December 2011, making a total production run of 10 months. The chart also indicates that there will not be a second (2012) model year.
If recent speculations comes to fruition, the successor to the 1M coupe will be the BMW M2 Coupe, as BMW will switch the next generation small BMW coupe to the 2-series badge.
#1020
Subject of some debate I think. I noticed immediately this was in no way an explicit press release from M division stating the denial of a 2012 model 1M happening, which is suspicious given that E82's are staying in production through 6/2012. That's a full 6 months they could theoretically be selling and building 1M's, so why in the world would they not?
#1021
Senior Moderator
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=542465
Nope but these production sheets were sent to BMW dealers. As you seen it says 2011 1M will end in December with no mention of it in the 2012 model year listings.
It was always said it would be a short run. My guess was to just showcase the N54 as a last hoorah.
Considering the demand and praise for the 1M, they be dumb not to make a 2012 model.
Nope but these production sheets were sent to BMW dealers. As you seen it says 2011 1M will end in December with no mention of it in the 2012 model year listings.
It was always said it would be a short run. My guess was to just showcase the N54 as a last hoorah.
Considering the demand and praise for the 1M, they be dumb not to make a 2012 model.
#1023
BMW M135i at Geneva
Autocar
BMW is set to crown its second-generation 1-series line-up with an exciting new 300bhp plus six-cylinder powered M135i model pictured here in lightly veiled concept car form ahead of a public premiere at next week’s Geneva motor show.
The Audi RS3 rivaling hatchback, planned for UK sale before the end of 2012, forms part of BMW’s new M Performance line-up, joining the recently revealed M550d xDrive saloon and touring, X5 M50d and X6 M50d.
It is also the first three-door version of BMW’s second-generation 1-series that is set to be sold with the same range of four-cylinder petrol and diesel engines as its more practical five-door sibling from mid-year.
Although not a fully-fledged M-car, the M135i draws heavily on the year-old M135i Coupe, sharing its engine and gearbox among other go-fast components.
Full details are yet to be revealed, but BMW insiders hint new hatchback’s twin-turbocharged 3.0-litre in-line six-cylinder engine, the M54S as it is known internally, kicks out in the region of 320bhp, together with 332lb ft of torque.
Unlike the rear-wheel drive only M135i Coupe, though, Autocar can reveal that BMW plans to offer the new M135i hatchback with both standard rear-wheel drive and optional four-wheel drive. But like other non SUV xDrive models sold by BMW, the upcoming M135i xDrive is likely to come in left-hand drive form only, ruling out UK sales of the four-wheel drive version.
With a rumoured 1500kg kerb weight and power-to-weight ratio described as being better than 220bhp/tonne in rear wheel drive guise, Munich’s new hyper hatch is expected to deliver performance comparable to the M135i Coupe - 0-62mph acceleration in 4.9sec, 0-124mph in 17.3sec and a limited 155mph top speed.
Allied to the upgraded driveline is a heavily reworked suspension with wider tracks, lower ride height and larger 18-inch wheels than standard 1-series models. BMW describes the handling as offering “a noticeable improvement in overall agility and more precise characteristics”. The brakes have also been upgraded, with 360mm rotors appearing up front and 350mm units at the rear.
As previewed by the concept set to appear at Geneva, the M135i will receive a distinctive body kit to differentiate it from other less powerful three door 1-series hatchback models. Included is a deeper front bumper boasting typical M division styling cues, LED imbued headlamps, unique mirror housings, wider sills under the doors and a substantial rear bumper featuring a black lower section and twin tail pipes.
BMW is set to crown its second-generation 1-series line-up with an exciting new 300bhp plus six-cylinder powered M135i model pictured here in lightly veiled concept car form ahead of a public premiere at next week’s Geneva motor show.
The Audi RS3 rivaling hatchback, planned for UK sale before the end of 2012, forms part of BMW’s new M Performance line-up, joining the recently revealed M550d xDrive saloon and touring, X5 M50d and X6 M50d.
It is also the first three-door version of BMW’s second-generation 1-series that is set to be sold with the same range of four-cylinder petrol and diesel engines as its more practical five-door sibling from mid-year.
Although not a fully-fledged M-car, the M135i draws heavily on the year-old M135i Coupe, sharing its engine and gearbox among other go-fast components.
Full details are yet to be revealed, but BMW insiders hint new hatchback’s twin-turbocharged 3.0-litre in-line six-cylinder engine, the M54S as it is known internally, kicks out in the region of 320bhp, together with 332lb ft of torque.
Unlike the rear-wheel drive only M135i Coupe, though, Autocar can reveal that BMW plans to offer the new M135i hatchback with both standard rear-wheel drive and optional four-wheel drive. But like other non SUV xDrive models sold by BMW, the upcoming M135i xDrive is likely to come in left-hand drive form only, ruling out UK sales of the four-wheel drive version.
With a rumoured 1500kg kerb weight and power-to-weight ratio described as being better than 220bhp/tonne in rear wheel drive guise, Munich’s new hyper hatch is expected to deliver performance comparable to the M135i Coupe - 0-62mph acceleration in 4.9sec, 0-124mph in 17.3sec and a limited 155mph top speed.
Allied to the upgraded driveline is a heavily reworked suspension with wider tracks, lower ride height and larger 18-inch wheels than standard 1-series models. BMW describes the handling as offering “a noticeable improvement in overall agility and more precise characteristics”. The brakes have also been upgraded, with 360mm rotors appearing up front and 350mm units at the rear.
As previewed by the concept set to appear at Geneva, the M135i will receive a distinctive body kit to differentiate it from other less powerful three door 1-series hatchback models. Included is a deeper front bumper boasting typical M division styling cues, LED imbued headlamps, unique mirror housings, wider sills under the doors and a substantial rear bumper featuring a black lower section and twin tail pipes.
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#1028
The sizzle in the Steak
ugly hatch
#1029
I drive a Subata.
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It looks like a weird looking frog. wtf
#1031
Moderator
BMW's had a 1-hatch over in Europe for quite a while. This is just another one of those bastardized M-performance versions. Euro hot-hatches are an acquired taste.
#1034
My first Avatar....
It doesn't look nearly as good as the Audi 3 hatch.
#1036
Engineer
a friend of mine is getting a 1 eDrive... They just installed the charger and car should be delivered in the next few weeks. I'll post pics once I get a chance to see it...
#1038
Senior Moderator
2012 BMW Concept M135i
Press release...
BMW presents the concept study of a BMW M Performance automobile featuring a six-cylinder petrol engine – consistent further development of the new BMW 1 Series’ dynamic characteristics – world premiere at the 2012 Geneva International Motor Show.
Munich. Simultaneously with the world premiere of the first BMW M Performance automobiles, BMW’s concept study of a further model from this new product category will be showcased on the media days (6 – 7 March 2012) at this year’s Geneva International Motor Show. The BMW Concept M135i consistently utilises the dynamic potential of the new BMW 1 Series for the concept of the first BMW M Performance automobile featuring a straight six-cylinder petrol engine. The body design of the BMW Concept M135i assigns the youthful and sporty looks of the new BMW 1 Series to a three-door compact model, complementing it with the distinctive athleticism so typical of a BMW M Performance automobile.
Concept study with characteristics typical of a BMW M Performance automobile.
With its sporty appearance, the compact three-door car authentically conveys the typical qualities of BMW Performance automobiles to yet another vehicle segment. BMW M Performance automobiles offer an ideal symbiosis of outstanding performance and everyday suitability. Using the expertise gained by the BMW M division from decades of motor racing experience, the supreme performance of its tremendously powerful engines specifically designed to suit each model, the meticulously modified suspension technology and the aerodynamic characteristics are all combined into a harmonious overall concept. As a result, BMW M Performance automobiles have noticeably increased agility, precisely controllable handling characteristics and an emotional design. One look at the BMW Concept M135i and the qualities crucial to that characteristic M Performance feeling are instantly evident.
The employment of a straight six-cylinder petrol power plant featuring M Performance Twin Power Turbo technology with a power output of more than 300 hp creates the ideal prerequisites for maximum dynamics in the premium compact segment and, in conjunction with rear-wheel drive concept still unique in this vehicle class, ensures unsurpassed driving pleasure so typical of a BMW.
Moreover, the characteristic handling precision of BMW M Performance automobiles is obtained through model-specific suspension technology that includes an M sports braking system and is perfectly adapted to match the supreme road performance. 18-inch M light alloys with a double spoke design additionally complement the concept car’s sporting character.
Body features typical M athletic design.
The front apron of the concept car boasts a typical M design, signalising intensive road-orientation, its large air intakes designed to match the cooling requirement of the powerful engine, ancillary components and large brakes. The three-dimensionally designed flaps on the air intakes give indication of the car’s direct association with motor racing.
In addition to intense road-orientation, the specific design of the rear end of the BMW Concept M135i emphasises above all the vehicle’s width. This is supplemented in particular by the three-dimensional modelling of the surfaces and the lower section of the rear apron finished in Dark Shadow metallic. Furthermore, the rear apron accommodates the exhaust system’s double tailpipe that features a dark chrome trim.
The BMW Concept M135i’s exterior mirror caps in Ferric Grey and side window surrounds in BMW Individual High Gloss Shadow Line are a further feature of BMW M Performance automobiles.
Dynamic, stretched appearance. Concept study of the three-door BMW 1 Series.
Compared with the silhouette of the five-door BMW 1 Series, the three-door BMW Concept M135i makes an even more sporting and elegant statement. On the whole, the car has a more dynamic and elongated appearance. Viewed from the side, the car’s athletic, low-slung appearance and its nearness to the road are even more intensely expressed by an entirely horizontal contour line in the area of the doorsills. A dynamically rising character line symbolises the BMW Concept M135i’s urge to move forwards.
The wide doors are a further characteristic feature of the BMW Concept M135i’s body design. Together with the rear side windows, the frameless windows form a coherent window surface reaching back to the rear end, accentuating the body’s dynamically stretched appearance.
In addition, the surface design in the area of the rear side panels helps above all to emphasise the powerfully flared wheel arches. The visual accentuation of this part of the body directs the eye to the rear wheels, where the power of the six-cylinder power plant is transformed into driving dynamics in typical BMW manner.
Attractive prospects for the further development of the BMW 1 Series model range.
Thanks to a distinctively sports-oriented appearance, the BMW Concept M135i offers attractive prospects for the further development of the BMW 1 Series model range. At the same time, a clear signal has been given for the expansion of the new product category of BMW M Performance automobiles. The BMW M Performance automobiles being presented at the Geneva Motor Show and shortly to be launched are powered by the world’s most high-performing six-cylinder diesel engine available for series production vehicles. The petrol-fuelled models in this product category will also assume a similar unique position. The pre-series concept car BMW Concept M135i offers a fascinating outlook on a corresponding offer in the premium compact segment.
Munich. Simultaneously with the world premiere of the first BMW M Performance automobiles, BMW’s concept study of a further model from this new product category will be showcased on the media days (6 – 7 March 2012) at this year’s Geneva International Motor Show. The BMW Concept M135i consistently utilises the dynamic potential of the new BMW 1 Series for the concept of the first BMW M Performance automobile featuring a straight six-cylinder petrol engine. The body design of the BMW Concept M135i assigns the youthful and sporty looks of the new BMW 1 Series to a three-door compact model, complementing it with the distinctive athleticism so typical of a BMW M Performance automobile.
Concept study with characteristics typical of a BMW M Performance automobile.
With its sporty appearance, the compact three-door car authentically conveys the typical qualities of BMW Performance automobiles to yet another vehicle segment. BMW M Performance automobiles offer an ideal symbiosis of outstanding performance and everyday suitability. Using the expertise gained by the BMW M division from decades of motor racing experience, the supreme performance of its tremendously powerful engines specifically designed to suit each model, the meticulously modified suspension technology and the aerodynamic characteristics are all combined into a harmonious overall concept. As a result, BMW M Performance automobiles have noticeably increased agility, precisely controllable handling characteristics and an emotional design. One look at the BMW Concept M135i and the qualities crucial to that characteristic M Performance feeling are instantly evident.
The employment of a straight six-cylinder petrol power plant featuring M Performance Twin Power Turbo technology with a power output of more than 300 hp creates the ideal prerequisites for maximum dynamics in the premium compact segment and, in conjunction with rear-wheel drive concept still unique in this vehicle class, ensures unsurpassed driving pleasure so typical of a BMW.
Moreover, the characteristic handling precision of BMW M Performance automobiles is obtained through model-specific suspension technology that includes an M sports braking system and is perfectly adapted to match the supreme road performance. 18-inch M light alloys with a double spoke design additionally complement the concept car’s sporting character.
Body features typical M athletic design.
The front apron of the concept car boasts a typical M design, signalising intensive road-orientation, its large air intakes designed to match the cooling requirement of the powerful engine, ancillary components and large brakes. The three-dimensionally designed flaps on the air intakes give indication of the car’s direct association with motor racing.
In addition to intense road-orientation, the specific design of the rear end of the BMW Concept M135i emphasises above all the vehicle’s width. This is supplemented in particular by the three-dimensional modelling of the surfaces and the lower section of the rear apron finished in Dark Shadow metallic. Furthermore, the rear apron accommodates the exhaust system’s double tailpipe that features a dark chrome trim.
The BMW Concept M135i’s exterior mirror caps in Ferric Grey and side window surrounds in BMW Individual High Gloss Shadow Line are a further feature of BMW M Performance automobiles.
Dynamic, stretched appearance. Concept study of the three-door BMW 1 Series.
Compared with the silhouette of the five-door BMW 1 Series, the three-door BMW Concept M135i makes an even more sporting and elegant statement. On the whole, the car has a more dynamic and elongated appearance. Viewed from the side, the car’s athletic, low-slung appearance and its nearness to the road are even more intensely expressed by an entirely horizontal contour line in the area of the doorsills. A dynamically rising character line symbolises the BMW Concept M135i’s urge to move forwards.
The wide doors are a further characteristic feature of the BMW Concept M135i’s body design. Together with the rear side windows, the frameless windows form a coherent window surface reaching back to the rear end, accentuating the body’s dynamically stretched appearance.
In addition, the surface design in the area of the rear side panels helps above all to emphasise the powerfully flared wheel arches. The visual accentuation of this part of the body directs the eye to the rear wheels, where the power of the six-cylinder power plant is transformed into driving dynamics in typical BMW manner.
Attractive prospects for the further development of the BMW 1 Series model range.
Thanks to a distinctively sports-oriented appearance, the BMW Concept M135i offers attractive prospects for the further development of the BMW 1 Series model range. At the same time, a clear signal has been given for the expansion of the new product category of BMW M Performance automobiles. The BMW M Performance automobiles being presented at the Geneva Motor Show and shortly to be launched are powered by the world’s most high-performing six-cylinder diesel engine available for series production vehicles. The petrol-fuelled models in this product category will also assume a similar unique position. The pre-series concept car BMW Concept M135i offers a fascinating outlook on a corresponding offer in the premium compact segment.
#1039
My first Avatar....
Anybody have any experiene with the 135 coupe or vert? They look like fun cars to drive, especially with the same engine that is in the 335i. Just wondering what they might be like as far as seat comfort, road noise, and ride are concerned...
#1040
Moderator
One of my co-workers has an '08 135. He loves it. I've driven it once and felt like it was a great little driver's car (his is a manual). Definitely quick with that 300hp inline six.
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