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Old 03-31-2010 | 11:20 AM
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Stay tuned today. Acura is making the official reveal at the New York Auto Show at 4:30 PM Eastern. You can watch it live here:

http://www.hondanews.com/categories/1396/releases/5401
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If it's equipped with 6MT SH-AWD, this would probably be my next car.
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since i won't be able to afford a CTS-V wagon for awhile, this may have to be my next car as well.
Old 03-31-2010 | 03:47 PM
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I'll be happy if they at least offer 6MT. I'm not holding my breath they'd put in SH-AWD. If I could dream it would be a V6 with SH-AWD and 6MT. But I'd have to see a pig fly by my window, hell freeze over AND the TL nose to look pretty to me before I'd believe that.
Old 03-31-2010 | 03:55 PM
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I'm watching the web cast live right now. It's definitely a great looking wagon, no doubt there. However, it's only available with a 4-cylinder, no SH-AWD, and no 6MT option. So essentially, it's the 4-cylinder sedan with more utility. Curious how many they intend on selling...
Old 03-31-2010 | 03:59 PM
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Sorry folks, same old 4-cylinder/5AT combo. Is it just me or did they tweak the plenum a bit? Hard to tell from these pics.

New York Auto Show: 2011 Acura TSX Sport Wagon
Old 03-31-2010 | 04:01 PM
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Meh, another lost opportunity by Acura...

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NEW YORK - 03/31/2010
The all-new 2011 Acura TSX Sport Wagon made its world debut at the New York International Auto Show today. The TSX Sport Wagon offers a smart solution to modern utility needs with its balanced and efficient driving performance coupled with bold styling and versatile cargo capabilities.
"The TSX Sport Wagon represents a smart choice for those seeking a vehicle with utility," said John Mendel, executive vice president, sales. "It's practical, fun to drive, luxurious and technically advanced, all while achieving an outstanding estimated highway fuel economy rating of 30 miles per gallon*."
The TSX Sport Wagon delivers flexible utility and generous interior space- perfect for those with a growing family or an active lifestyle. The TSX Sport Wagon boasts an innovative and highly functional rear cargo space that includes a removable side panel to accommodate wider items such as golf clubs and integrated under-floor bins for hidden storage. Along with this sizeable cargo space, the TSX Sport Wagon features a comfortable and spacious cabin with seating for up to five adults.
The TSX Sport Wagon's practical utility is cleverly masked behind crisp lines and a sleek, European-inspired exterior. Bold wheel arches frame the 17-inch, 5-spoke aluminum wheels, giving the Sport Wagon an aggressive stance. The chiseled, muscular body and sloping roofline emphasize its performance capabilities while making it more aerodynamic.
Powering the TSX Sport Wagon is a 2.4-liter, DOHC i-VTEC®, inline four-cylinder engine paired with a Sequential SportShift 5-speed automatic transmission fit with steering-wheel mounted paddle shifters. The TSX Sport Wagon delivers brisk performance while achieving an EPA-estimated 30 mpg* on the highway. Drawing from its sports sedan roots, the TSX Sport Wagon features agile handling and quick off the line acceleration, allowing it to easily tackle a twisty mountain road or swiftly navigate through city streets.
To enhance the driving experience, the TSX Sport Wagon features the latest in advanced technologies including an available hard disk drive-based Acura Navigation System™ with an all-new 8-inch full VGA high-resolution color display and AcuraLink Real-Time Traffic and Weather™ featuring radar image mapping. For the audiophile, the TSX Sport Wagon will be available with an Acura/ELS Surround® Premium Audio System and a hard disk drive (HDD) for media storage. Additionally, the TSX Sport Wagon is equipped with an impressive list of standard features, including a power glass moonroof, dual-zone automatic climate control, leather seats, a premium sound system, Bluetooth® HandsFreeLink®, and USB port and AUX jack music interface. Like all Acura vehicles, the TSX Sport Wagon will come with a comprehensive list of standard safety features, including Acura's acclaimed Advanced Compatibility Engineering™ (ACE™) body structure.
The 2011 TSX Sport Wagon will be an entry luxury utility offering when it arrives at Acura dealerships in the late fall. The Sport Wagon will join the TSX lineup, which already includes the popular 4-cylinder and sporty V-6 powered sports sedans.
For media information and high-resolution photos of all Acura vehicles, please visit www.acuranews.com. For consumer information, please visit www.acura.com.
TSX Sport Wagon Specifications:
Length: 189.4 inches
Width: 72.4 inches
Height: 57.9 inches
Wheelbase: 106.5 inches
Wheel: 17x7.5- inch 5-spoke aluminum alloy wheels
Seating capacity: 5-passenger
*Preliminary EPA mileage estimates determined by Honda. Final EPA mileage estimates not available at the time of printing. Use for comparison purposes only. Do not compare to models before 2008. You actual mileage will vary depending on how you drive and maintain your vehicle.
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Old 03-31-2010 | 04:14 PM
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Acura site is up.

Obvious changes:
  • VGA navi screen from TL
  • I think the contrasting stitching on the seats is new
  • Plood in center console from Euro Accord
  • Is the metal accent darker or just a difference in lighting?













Old 03-31-2010 | 04:32 PM
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the wagon looks better than the new sedan imo.
Old 03-31-2010 | 04:37 PM
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At least Honda is consistent in letting us down and not giving whats asked for. The deserve credit for that at least.

But in reality this thing wouldn't sell with a MT and V6 anyway so no biggie.
Old 03-31-2010 | 04:40 PM
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At least Honda is consistent in letting us down and not giving whats asked for. The deserve credit for that at least.
Are you serious? They finally bring the wagon here and it's a let down? SH-AWD ain't ever gonna happen on this generation TSX, so given that, what more do you want them to do?
Old 03-31-2010 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by darmok
Are you serious? They finally bring the wagon here and it's a let down? SH-AWD ain't ever gonna happen on this generation TSX, so given that, what more do you want them to do?
Didn't mention AWD. I knew that was never going to happen. A V6 or 6MT on the other hand.....(not necessarily together)

If you're ok with the AT and the 4 then great. I'm not. Then again, I'd never be in the market for a wagon, just not my thing. And I think Honda knows this will never be a big seller so why bother bringing over various variations. Its smart business, just not great for the consumer.
Old 03-31-2010 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by darmok
Are you serious? They finally bring the wagon here and it's a let down? SH-AWD ain't ever gonna happen on this generation TSX, so given that, what more do you want them to do?
Much more...

first of all the 3.5 engine, 6MT, and yes, Sh-AWD...
another big disappointment
Old 03-31-2010 | 04:45 PM
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I'm still holding out hope for a V6/MT combo announcement for the 2011 MY.
Old 03-31-2010 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
I'm still holding out hope for a V6/MT combo announcement for the 2011 MY.
I'm holding out hope for that in the sedan too (but only if they bring back Milano Red!). I doubt whether they would sell five of those in the wagon. I can't see how the no-V6 or 6MT in the wagon choice is not good for the consumer if there aren't more than a handful of those consumers.
Old 03-31-2010 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by darmok
I'm holding out hope for that in the sedan too (but only if they bring back Milano Red!). I doubt whether they would sell five of those in the wagon. I can't see how the no-V6 or 6MT in the wagon choice is not good for the consumer if there aren't more than a handful of those consumers.
Same reason as them having a $90,000 2 seater. Get more butts in the door to look around. It's not like they have to tool a 6MT / V6 wagon from scratch. It's just a freakin European Accord with Acura logos on it.
Old 03-31-2010 | 04:57 PM
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Much more...

first of all the 3.5 engine, 6MT, and yes, Sh-AWD...
another big disappointment
OK, the TL AWD 6-MT costs over 43K and it's made in the US. Assuming that the wagon is still made in Sayama, are you ready for a 43,000 TSX wagon. (assumes the TSX is relatively less than the TL but Japan prod. negates that)
Old 03-31-2010 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by darmok
there aren't more than a handful of those consumers.
But that handful are still consumers aren't they? Again, not a big deal but a few people will be unhappy.

I think the lack of a 6 will probably hurt more than the lack of an MT.
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I'm disappointed about no SH-AWD, but this will stay on my list for my next vehicle.
Old 03-31-2010 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed_Racer
Same reason as them having a $90,000 2 seater. Get more butts in the door to look around. It's not like they have to tool a 6MT / V6 wagon from scratch. It's just a freakin European Accord with Acura logos on it.
But it's not as if a TSX wagon is a 'halo car' as the NSX was. I think at this point in Acuras lifespan, we need cars we actually sell .... in volume! (and just to be clear, I don't think this is a volume vehicle)
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I'm unhappy.
Old 03-31-2010 | 05:03 PM
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I think what Honda really needs to do is phase out that archaic 5AT considering they have their brand-spanking-new 6AT in the ZDX. The 6MT would be nice to have but in this day and age a six-speed auto is the standard.
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Originally Posted by Colin
But it's not as if a TSX wagon is a 'halo car' as the NSX was. I think at this point in Acuras lifespan, we need cars we actually sell .... in volume! (and just to be clear, I don't think this is a volume vehicle)
I don't think this is a volume vehicle neither..

I mean it just sucks that Honda/Acura stopped producing vehicles that have... soul like they used to.
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I think what Honda really needs to do is phase out that archaic 5AT considering they have their brand-spanking-new 6AT in the ZDX. The 6MT would be nice to have but in this day and age a six-speed auto is the standard.
2019 TSX will have it. Don't worry.
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Originally Posted by knavinusa
I think what Honda really needs to do is phase out that archaic 5AT considering they have their brand-spanking-new 6AT in the ZDX. The 6MT would be nice to have but in this day and age a six-speed auto is the standard.
I'm the 6AT is a pretty beefy unit, they will probably roll out one designed for 4 cyl cars eventually. Yeah, we all know they're late, but IMO if they had to choose one or the other, IMO the 6 cyl version made more sense. They needed the MPG boost more.
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do not want anymore. not after i see hyundai with its 2.0T 274hp and 6AT getting 34mpg
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I don't think this is a volume vehicle neither..

I mean it just sucks that Honda/Acura stopped producing vehicles that have... soul like they used to.
I wrote this in the beginning of March in the TSX forum

Let the whining begin:

"What no AWD!?"
"What why AWD and all that weight!?"
"What, no V-6!?"
"What, no MT with the V-6?!"
"What, no diesel?"
"What, no 4 cylinder option?!"
"What, only a 4 cylinder?!"
and people were kind enough to add

"What? It's not going to be 2800lbs with a turbodiesel V6"
"Very well done Colin! No grill comment or is that too easy?"
"What, no Hybrid!?"

LOL
Old 03-31-2010 | 05:33 PM
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^ I'm really not whining.

I just miss the old Honda days.

I'm a big Honda/Acura fan. I had 6G Accord and 3G TL before my current car.

Not too long ago, Honda/Acura had so many cars that I wanted to buy. Nowadays, there's nothing I want to buy from either of the brands.

It's just sad. That's all.
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I'm surprised that people are surprised by this
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^ I'm really not whining.
It's just sad. That's all.
I know, I was cuttin' and pastin' I'll disusss the 2nd part more later. Got to run.
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Jalopniks take on it ain't any different than ours, then again why would it be. You don't offer luxury "sports wagons" without at least a V6 powerplant. They should have just sold this as a honda and left a few luxury items out if this was the plan.
http://jalopnik.com/5506681/how-acur...sx-sport-wagon
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I am not surprised but still disappointed that they are not offering a V6 option (OK, I thought that the SH-AWD idea might be far-fetched but I was hoping....). In the presentation, they state that the rivals will be the 3 series wagon and the A4 Avant. Who are they kidding? They want THIS thing with a 4 cylinder engine and no AWD to compete with those German sport wagons?! That is just ridiculous. Maybe with the Passat wagon...

Then the beak is just interesting, isn't it!? Certainly they are trying to do something to tone it down. BUT, this is just epic failure! So they eliminated the thick metal piece surrounding the air inlet, and instead, they added some horizontal lines below the metal piece with the emblem (in the attempt to neutralize that awful buck-toothed "design" with the sedan grille), and yet, these new horizontal lines are now fighting with the honey-comb design in the bumper.... what is wrong with the Acura designers? They really think that MORE is better!? Oh, and now without that metal piece around the air inlet, there is a big gap between the grille and the head lights. Is it me or is it UGLY?

They could have got this so right, and yet.... sigh!
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Originally Posted by mcflyguy24
Jalopniks take on it ain't any different than ours, then again why would it be. You don't offer luxury "sports wagons" without at least a V6 powerplant.
They've been doing it with "sports sedans" long enough and it hasn't been a problem.

I understand that you guys are enthusiasts and you want a V6, 6MT, 6AT, 7AT, 8AT, SH-AWD, and other nice things. I'm sure if we had access to the sales data then it would support the way they went with this. Don't blame Honda/Acura for not making a car with the options you guys want, blame the fact that the market for such a car isn't big enough to make it worthwhile.
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I'm surprised that people are surprised by this
Seriously!! Although I wasn't expecting the MMC to be for 2011.
Old 04-01-2010 | 12:55 AM
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That grille looks way different! I like it

On a separate note: Holy crap I have never heard so much bitching and complaining on a forum lol
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Not surprised at all there is no manual, but I am still disappointed.

No manual = no buy for me
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This car is already 2 years old... They launched the Accord wagon in EU in 2008.
Next year the TSX sedan will get the mid cycle restyling...
What are they thinking about?
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I don't think this is a volume vehicle neither..
nor the RL and the ZDX... yeah, Acura really needed such a vehicle...
Old 04-01-2010 | 08:59 AM
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I guess I don't get why its whining. Whining would be for unreasonable expectations, SH-AWD may fall into that category. Are a V6 and MT really unreasonable?

But in the end...
Don't blame Honda/Acura for not making a car with the options you guys want, blame the fact that the market for such a car isn't big enough to make it worthwhile.
that's what it comes down to.

I get that costs are prohibitive because its made in Japan. I suppose we should just be thankful to the great Honda for at least throwing this bone.

But I'll continue my 'whining' when it comes to the lack of an MT or 6AT on the V6 sedan.


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