1SICKLEX

Looks like the old TL-S from the front and a 7ish rear. It looks American to me, like an old Chrysler with the cab foward look (the front overhang is huge). Overall better than the new RL but way behind the E class, M45, GS, A6, even the 5.

Interior looks very good.

heyitsme

heyitsme

Its nice but I don't really like it.

cusdaddy

I just noticed in that last picture, it trunk sort of looks like tone downed version of the BMW trunk much like the 5 series version.

And I think the exhaust pipes are a little too big for this type of car. They would look more in place on a sports car, not a flagship luxury sedan

ItalianStallion

agreed (in terms of styling).

maybe its the color?

1SICKLEX

I doubt it's the color. Nearly every concept or introduction is a silver car. The new TL looks way better than this. I can't believe some of the hype people made about this car and this is what we got. 300V-6, AWD, we'll see the performance specs?
Hell where is Acura going with this car? Sporty? Luxury? Both?

heyitsme

New York 04/07/2004 -- Powertrain
1. World's first Super-Handling All-Wheel-Drive System(TM) (SH-AWD(TM))
2. 3.5 liter VTEC V-6 engine
3. 300 horsepower
4. 5-speed Sequential SportShift automatic transmission with steering wheel-mounted F1(R)-style paddle shifters
5. LEV2-ULEV emissions system

Body/Chassis
1. 4-wheel independent double-wishbone suspension
2. 4-wheel disc brakes with 4-piston calipers and slotted rotors
3. 20-inch alloy wheels with 255/35R20 Michelin high performance tires
4. Adaptive Front Lighting System (AFS), which features low beams that swivel based on steering wheel input for increased illumination
5. Aluminum and high tensile steel construction

Interior
1. AcuraLink(TM) Satellite-Based Communication System
2. Leather - trimmed interior
3. Genuine wood trim
4. Acura/Bose(R) DVD-Audio system
5. HandsFreeLink' wireless telephone interface
6. XM(R) Satellite Radio
7. OnStar(R) service
8. Acura Keyless Access System(TM)

Safety
1. Advanced Compatibility Engineering(TM) (ACE(TM)) body structure
2. Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA(R))
3. Front, side and side curtain air bag systems

Dimensions
1. Length - 193.5 inches, 4915mm
2. Width - 72.6 inches, 1845 mm
3. Height - 57.1 inches, 1450 mm
4. Wheelbase - 110.2 inches, 2800 mm

1SICKLEX

I think it's funny that after almost 10 years, this is what they could think of. The M35/45 ownsz this period. Battle of the M35/45 vs GS 330/430 is gonna be sweet!

chef chris

:ultraghey: We all love Sicky!!!



Actually, if I'm not mistaken...he does like Infiniti/Nissan...so, it's not all hate. Everybody rambles...he's just a good rambler...

Stevens24

I think where BMW will struggle is not if there cars are better or not but are they 10, 15, 20k better. We get more 530 shoppers looking at TLs than 330 buyers. And most say the same thing The BMW is just not 12K better than this car.

chungkopi

i think it will be another failure

CLass

Looks like it should of been the next gen. CL.

jwong77

Hey isn't that the back of a Hyndai Sonata?

1SICKLEX

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showt...ighlight=lexus

Scroll to the middle pic

TypeSAddict

I'm beginning to think that regardless of how the car looks, just having the A badge will make everyone say: "Oh this car is so bland!"

titan

Hehehe... Yeah. That statement's right on target. And with both cars available with AWD as an option it's gonna only get sweeter. I like the new GS alot; I just think Lexus missed an opportunity to make more of a statement with the exterior styling... especially since this is the car that is supposed to point to the new styling direction for Lexus. That M is damn near perfect IMO. It's gonna be a good battle. ... And though the new RL is a bit bland, atleast it'll be more of a valid competitor. Honda's persistence in not developing a V8 is a glaring ommision, though.

titan

Damn... Thanks for the link, Lex. The new RL looks ALOT like that Impala... umph.

EdgarFanCLS

ug.... that front end!!! It just looks wrong to me for some reason. Like it curves downward a little too much and is snub-nosed, not a lengthy aggressive look that a flagship car should have. Maybe it's the camera angles though.

Infamous425

can you say mazda millenia front end with 1st gen cl rear

thai

Zoot

interesting: the above picture of the console and shifter is slightly different on Acura's website. Check out the gallery in the new RL mini-site and you will see that the area where the shifter is looks a little nicer

(i would post a link but I couldnt)

Infamous425

damn that black/anthracite is nice!

titan

Yeah. That thing looks vicious in black like that.

silverstarr

The pics at the NY Auto Show at vtec.net make the RL look much nicer than the press release photos.

The front end seems so much more substantial and less like a Camry. In person, I bet this car will look pretty nice.

http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=219613

nandowong

This pic changed my mind about the RL. The other pics look bland and camry. This black one looks ++++ better. The more I see the RL the more it grows on me like the TL

heyitsme

heyitsme

What I don't get is why they made the TL and TSX look so alike and then go in the other direction with the RL.

AgentDSS

Dude this car is hot! Did anyone else get the email from Acura today announcing the new RL Prototype officially?

It says it has a REAL-TIME TRAFFIC FEATURE, as part of the nav.
Go here to see the Acura's RL macromedia which features NEW gallery pics

http://clk.go2lnk.com/r/r0.4?P9FjyPy...GvthfAfHfIHe33

Infamous425

I hope those 20's come as an option

AcuraFan

This color makes the car. Now that's pretty pimp. I think the headlights are creepy though...take the lenses off and they remind me of creepy killer robot eyes.

silverstarr

heyitsme,

Those are nice pics of the show. I'm now really warming up to this car. The more pics I see, the more I like it. I think it will be really hot in the anthracite color.

I'm looking forward to seeing other interior colors. I hope they do a Quartz like the TL. A Camel would also be interesting to see. However, I'm still not too fond of the wood. The brown stain used is too bland. I wish they would stain it dark gray/black like in the Lexus LS430. With a Quartz or Camel interior, this brown toned wood may not work so well.

I also wonder what type of wood Acura is using. The grain pattern is un-interesting and it seems cheap.

I also wonder if that's real aluminum on that center dash waterfall.

Crazy Bimmer

Just like i thought, this car will be much bigger in person than it looks in pics. Thank god!

Look at how big the car is compared to the people around it.



Only thing bothering me is that fake looking wood. The current RL looks to have better looking wood than that!

Crazy Bimmer

I wouldnt go that far. Styling wise maybe but i think the new RL blows away the new GS and M45 with its technolgy. :P

Also dont forget how long it took Infiniti to finally make a decent product which wasnt untill last year. IMO

1SICKLEX

I'm thinking the only car that maybe one on one RL competition is the A6 turbo, with AWD. I am sure the new one will get a bump in power.
I think all 3 are pretty even technology wise. And I totally agree with the Infiniti statement. I still couldn't buy a new one, knowing in 2 years it will be worth crap. So why not just wait 2 years and buy a damn good car!

Crazy Bimmer

You know i have no idea what the new A6 offers, i really should read up on that car. :o

heyitsme

What technology would that be?

Crazy Bimmer

World's first Super-Handling All-Wheel-Drive System(TM) (SH-AWD(TM))

1SICKLEX

Yeah, get off your butt and find out. I know nothing about the new A-6 either. We had a thread here a month ago....

heyitsme

sh-awd hasn't proven to be anything yet other than a clever way to market awd.

titan

Yeah. I'd like to know what technology is coming to this right away that blow the M or GS away. Both of these cars are debuting with AWD, and Infiniti is first with that lane departure warning system, which is a great idea (not to mention useful).