Acura: RLX News
#168
I think your all out of your mind, although the front looks good, the back absolutly has to be a photoshop job...i meen its almost exactly the same as the TL...
I severly doubt the validity of that pic.
I severly doubt the validity of that pic.
#172
Originally posted by Collective27
I think your all out of your mind, although the front looks good, the back absolutly has to be a photoshop job...i meen its almost exactly the same as the TL...
I severly doubt the validity of that pic.
I think your all out of your mind, although the front looks good, the back absolutly has to be a photoshop job...i meen its almost exactly the same as the TL...
I severly doubt the validity of that pic.
Though, why shouldnt the rear of the RL look like the rear of the TL. It totally makes sense.
#174
It doesn't look like it follows the cues from the spy pic all too well, where this has what looks like a short sloping hood and clear blacked out tails, the rag has more of a german car/m45 front end and tl rear.
#176
First of all, to all the people saying what is acura thinking and all that shit, THIS IS NOT OFFICAL PICS....reserve your judgment till you see it in the flesh or atleast real pics of it. I cant tell you how many of these pics of cars in these random japanese mags that i have scene that look absolutly nothing like the real thing, which i think is whats gonna happen to this. The thing is a photoshop of a tl and what looks like an m45 and a little phatom all put together...
GAV- its not that i dont see the RL having cues from the TL, but the rear looks EXACTLY the same...the tailights are identicle...i would bet anyone any amount of money that the RL wont look that similar to the TL.
GAV- its not that i dont see the RL having cues from the TL, but the rear looks EXACTLY the same...the tailights are identicle...i would bet anyone any amount of money that the RL wont look that similar to the TL.
#178
Originally posted by unsure
that pic has been on the net almost 2 weeks after the new tl came out.....basically its a bad ps job and i wouldnt hold it in high esteem
that pic has been on the net almost 2 weeks after the new tl came out.....basically its a bad ps job and i wouldnt hold it in high esteem
#179
Originally posted by Collective27
First of all, to all the people saying what is acura thinking and all that shit, THIS IS NOT OFFICAL PICS....reserve your judgment till you see it in the flesh or atleast real pics of it. I cant tell you how many of these pics of cars in these random japanese mags that i have scene that look absolutly nothing like the real thing, which i think is whats gonna happen to this. The thing is a photoshop of a tl and what looks like an m45 and a little phatom all put together...
GAV- its not that i dont see the RL having cues from the TL, but the rear looks EXACTLY the same...the tailights are identicle...i would bet anyone any amount of money that the RL wont look that similar to the TL.
First of all, to all the people saying what is acura thinking and all that shit, THIS IS NOT OFFICAL PICS....reserve your judgment till you see it in the flesh or atleast real pics of it. I cant tell you how many of these pics of cars in these random japanese mags that i have scene that look absolutly nothing like the real thing, which i think is whats gonna happen to this. The thing is a photoshop of a tl and what looks like an m45 and a little phatom all put together...
GAV- its not that i dont see the RL having cues from the TL, but the rear looks EXACTLY the same...the tailights are identicle...i would bet anyone any amount of money that the RL wont look that similar to the TL.
#181
Originally posted by gavriil
Collective27 it sounds like you know something we dont about the new RL. Work for Acura or something?
Collective27 it sounds like you know something we dont about the new RL. Work for Acura or something?
I wish i knew ...but no, just simple facts, its photoshoped, i just get kinda anoyed when everyone starts raveing over something thats not even real. Ill know in april when i go to the ny auto show, cant wait!
#183
I think most people realize these are photshops, thats where a lot of the early pics in the 'autonews' section come from, like the black car above photoshoped by a rag to try and give an accurate representation. The only problem is the japanese mags tend to just make things up completely. I remember the wrx pic from bestcar and it was rediculous compared to what the 04 really looked like.
#184
Originally posted by Jaydef03
please, i cud photoshop shit much better than that. its the same exact pic as the concept TL. obv PS job. u guys r crazy if u think that was released by Honda
please, i cud photoshop shit much better than that. its the same exact pic as the concept TL. obv PS job. u guys r crazy if u think that was released by Honda
#186
Originally posted by heyitsme
It doesn't look like it follows the cues from the spy pic all too well, where this has what looks like a short sloping hood and clear blacked out tails, the rag has more of a german car/m45 front end and tl rear.
It doesn't look like it follows the cues from the spy pic all too well, where this has what looks like a short sloping hood and clear blacked out tails, the rag has more of a german car/m45 front end and tl rear.
i guess you can see through body cladding?????
#188
Originally posted by Crazy Sellout
cant wait to see the interior. Acura always wins with their interior designs
cant wait to see the interior. Acura always wins with their interior designs
#190
Originally posted by heyitsme
It doesn't look like it follows the cues from the spy pic all too well, where this has what looks like a short sloping hood and clear blacked out tails, the rag has more of a german car/m45 front end and tl rear.
It doesn't look like it follows the cues from the spy pic all too well, where this has what looks like a short sloping hood and clear blacked out tails, the rag has more of a german car/m45 front end and tl rear.
#191
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Originally posted by Crazy Sellout
cant wait to see the interior. Acura always wins with their interior designs
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I am guessing the same thing. If the TL is what it is, imagine the RL.
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Originally posted by Crazy Sellout
cant wait to see the interior. Acura always wins with their interior designs
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I am guessing the same thing. If the TL is what it is, imagine the RL.
#192
05 RL Info
since the last thread was busted....
www.vtec.net
www.vtec.net
Soon after I posted the news item regarding the latest buzz on upcoming products, I received a bit more (unofficial) information on expected changes for the 2005 Acura RL. Here's an updated summary:
* 300HP 3.5L V-6
* AWD (VTM4)
* Aluminum body parts, including hood, roof, trunklid
* Sized larger than 5-series/E-class, but smaller than 7-series/S-class. Perhaps to be positioned against Lexus GS or Infiniti M45.
* "Smartkey" for door, ignition, and trunk
* Sportshift with steering wheel mounted "paddle" controls
* Adaptive headlights (move with the steering)
* Adaptive cruise control
* Power rear seats
* "Stunning" interior
We've also received the following information regarding the available colors and accessories:
Exterior Colors: Desert Mist, Deep Blue, Meteor Silver, Ruby Royal Red, Medium Silver, Silver Metallic, Premium White,
Graphite Pearl, Nighthawk Black.
Interior Colors: Black, Grey, Beige.
Available Accessories: All Season mats front and rear, trunk net and tray, wood steering wheel and shift knob, back up sensors, gold emblems, door visors, nose mask, color matched splash guards, rear deck lid spoiler, +1 chrome look wheels, and A-SPEC (wheels, tires +1, suspension, and deck lid spoiler).
* 300HP 3.5L V-6
* AWD (VTM4)
* Aluminum body parts, including hood, roof, trunklid
* Sized larger than 5-series/E-class, but smaller than 7-series/S-class. Perhaps to be positioned against Lexus GS or Infiniti M45.
* "Smartkey" for door, ignition, and trunk
* Sportshift with steering wheel mounted "paddle" controls
* Adaptive headlights (move with the steering)
* Adaptive cruise control
* Power rear seats
* "Stunning" interior
We've also received the following information regarding the available colors and accessories:
Exterior Colors: Desert Mist, Deep Blue, Meteor Silver, Ruby Royal Red, Medium Silver, Silver Metallic, Premium White,
Graphite Pearl, Nighthawk Black.
Interior Colors: Black, Grey, Beige.
Available Accessories: All Season mats front and rear, trunk net and tray, wood steering wheel and shift knob, back up sensors, gold emblems, door visors, nose mask, color matched splash guards, rear deck lid spoiler, +1 chrome look wheels, and A-SPEC (wheels, tires +1, suspension, and deck lid spoiler).
#198
Acura RL And Lincoln Sedan To Offer All-Wheel-Drive - - - By Jim Burt - - Source: The Car Connection
Acura RL And Lincoln Sedan To Offer All-Wheel-Drive
The redesigned Acura RL, which debuts later this year, and a new front-drive Lincoln sedan due to hit showrooms next year will offer all-wheel-drive as an option, according to executives familiar with the product plans. As horsepower increases in front-drive sedans, engineers are telling their masters at the OEMs that torque steer is reaching the outer limits of desirability. The answer: offer all-wheel drive in at least the upmarket models with the most powerful engines. Honda and Acura offer AWD in their SUVs, such as the Pilot, MDX, and Element. The RL would be the first Honda passenger car to offer power to all four wheels. Likewise, the Lincoln sedan, based on the shared platform and architecture of the Mazda6, which also shared by the forthcoming Ford Futura, the next Lincoln Aviator and a Mercury sedan, will offer an all-wheel drive option. Ford believes that AWD will be an increasingly popular option on sedans, and is also offering the system, developed by Volvo, on the Ford Five Hundred and Mercury Montego. -Jim Burt
Acura RL And Lincoln Sedan To Offer All-Wheel-Drive
The redesigned Acura RL, which debuts later this year, and a new front-drive Lincoln sedan due to hit showrooms next year will offer all-wheel-drive as an option, according to executives familiar with the product plans. As horsepower increases in front-drive sedans, engineers are telling their masters at the OEMs that torque steer is reaching the outer limits of desirability. The answer: offer all-wheel drive in at least the upmarket models with the most powerful engines. Honda and Acura offer AWD in their SUVs, such as the Pilot, MDX, and Element. The RL would be the first Honda passenger car to offer power to all four wheels. Likewise, the Lincoln sedan, based on the shared platform and architecture of the Mazda6, which also shared by the forthcoming Ford Futura, the next Lincoln Aviator and a Mercury sedan, will offer an all-wheel drive option. Ford believes that AWD will be an increasingly popular option on sedans, and is also offering the system, developed by Volvo, on the Ford Five Hundred and Mercury Montego. -Jim Burt
#199
AutomobileApril 1 , 2004
Honda Develops World’s First Super Handling All-Wheel-Drive
Available this fall in the Acura RL (North America) and the Legend (Japan)
TOKYO - April 1, 2004 --- Honda Motor Co., Ltd. today announced the development of a new Super Handling All-Wheel-Drive system, called SH-AWD, that provides cornering performance that responds faithfully to driver input, and outstanding vehicle stability. A world’s first, the SH-AWD system combines front-rear torque distribution control with independently regulated torque distribution to the left and right rear wheels to freely distribute the optimum amount of torque to all four wheels in accordance with driving conditions. The new system will be available this fall in the Acura RL (North America) and the Legend (Japan).
By monitoring driver input and driving conditions, the SH-AWD system determines the optimum front-rear and lateral (left-right) torque distribution. This information is then conveyed to the rear differential, where direct electromagnetic clutches continuously regulate and vary front-rear torque distribution between ratios of 30:70 and 70:30, and lateral torque distribution in the rear wheels between ratios of 100:0 and 0:100. Torque is used not only for propulsion, but for cornering as well, resulting in a significant enhancement in vehicle maneuverability.
The SH-AWD system is composed of sensors to detect steering angle, lateral g, and other vehicle information; an ECU; and the rear differential. The direct electromagnetic clutches inside the rear differential, another world’s first, employ electromagnets to obtain precise control over the multi-plate clutches. Built-in search coils monitor the gaps between the electromagnets and the magnetic body to achieve precise, continuously variable torque regulation.
The rear differential is also equipped with a built-in acceleration device, yet another world’s first. During cornering, the track of the outside rear wheel normally falls outside the average of the tracks of the front wheels. The outside rear wheel does not rotate fast enough to keep up with the front wheels, preventing efficient transmission of torque. To counteract this problem, the SH-AWD acceleration device alters the gearing to speed up the outside rear wheel’s rotation relative to the front wheels. This reduces torque transmission losses and significantly improves vehicle maneuverability.
At Honda, driving pleasure is regarded as one of the most important factors in vehicle development. The new SH-AWD system features “feed-forward” control, which utilizes the degree of driver input to determine appropriate torque distribution. This results in a super-neutral steering feel that responds with optimal faithfulness to the driver’s handling of the steering wheel, realizing outstanding driving comfort and stability.
Torque Distribution Regulation
· Acceleration during cornering
Torque to the rear wheels is continuously varied to supply up to 100% to the outside wheel and 0% to the inside wheel. This creates an inward yaw moment, significantly improving vehicle handling.
*Yaw moment is turning torque relative to the vertical axis running through the vehicle’s center of gravity.
· Deceleration during cornering (throttle closed)
Torque to the outside rear wheel is freely varied to change from an inward to an outward yaw moment, ensuring vehicle stability at all times.
· Straight-line driving
Front-rear torque distribution is regulated for optimum performance in accordance with the amount of torque produced. During rapid acceleration the load on the front wheels is reduced; conversely, rear-wheel load is reduced during cruising. The result is stable driving at all times.
System Configuration
· World’s first direct electromagnetic clutch
An electromagnetic coil (electromagnet) attracts a magnetic body which, in turn, presses on the multi-plate clutch to facilitate torque transmission. A compact clutch unit, equipped with a planetary gear step-up mechanism to increase torque, permits transmission of substantial amounts of torque. A built-in search coil monitors the gap between the electromagnetic coil and the magnetic body. Current flow in the electromagnetic clutch is then adjusted to achieve highly precise torque regulation.
· Acceleration device
During straight-ahead driving, the twin-pinion planetary carrier spins in synchronization with the propeller shaft, causing the front and rear wheels to turn at the same speed. When the vehicle enters a curve, however, the planetary carrier is locked to the case, releasing the device from synchronization with the propeller shaft and accelerating the rotation speed of the rear wheels. A hydraulic actuator which turns the clutches on and off, and a one-way clutch are included in this compact configuration.
· Sensors, ECU
The input of steering angle, lateral g, yaw rate, wheel speed and other sensors monitor driver input, vehicle demeanor, and driving conditions such that the SH-AWD ECU can calculate ideal torque distribution.
Honda Develops World’s First Super Handling All-Wheel-Drive
Available this fall in the Acura RL (North America) and the Legend (Japan)
TOKYO - April 1, 2004 --- Honda Motor Co., Ltd. today announced the development of a new Super Handling All-Wheel-Drive system, called SH-AWD, that provides cornering performance that responds faithfully to driver input, and outstanding vehicle stability. A world’s first, the SH-AWD system combines front-rear torque distribution control with independently regulated torque distribution to the left and right rear wheels to freely distribute the optimum amount of torque to all four wheels in accordance with driving conditions. The new system will be available this fall in the Acura RL (North America) and the Legend (Japan).
By monitoring driver input and driving conditions, the SH-AWD system determines the optimum front-rear and lateral (left-right) torque distribution. This information is then conveyed to the rear differential, where direct electromagnetic clutches continuously regulate and vary front-rear torque distribution between ratios of 30:70 and 70:30, and lateral torque distribution in the rear wheels between ratios of 100:0 and 0:100. Torque is used not only for propulsion, but for cornering as well, resulting in a significant enhancement in vehicle maneuverability.
The SH-AWD system is composed of sensors to detect steering angle, lateral g, and other vehicle information; an ECU; and the rear differential. The direct electromagnetic clutches inside the rear differential, another world’s first, employ electromagnets to obtain precise control over the multi-plate clutches. Built-in search coils monitor the gaps between the electromagnets and the magnetic body to achieve precise, continuously variable torque regulation.
The rear differential is also equipped with a built-in acceleration device, yet another world’s first. During cornering, the track of the outside rear wheel normally falls outside the average of the tracks of the front wheels. The outside rear wheel does not rotate fast enough to keep up with the front wheels, preventing efficient transmission of torque. To counteract this problem, the SH-AWD acceleration device alters the gearing to speed up the outside rear wheel’s rotation relative to the front wheels. This reduces torque transmission losses and significantly improves vehicle maneuverability.
At Honda, driving pleasure is regarded as one of the most important factors in vehicle development. The new SH-AWD system features “feed-forward” control, which utilizes the degree of driver input to determine appropriate torque distribution. This results in a super-neutral steering feel that responds with optimal faithfulness to the driver’s handling of the steering wheel, realizing outstanding driving comfort and stability.
Torque Distribution Regulation
· Acceleration during cornering
Torque to the rear wheels is continuously varied to supply up to 100% to the outside wheel and 0% to the inside wheel. This creates an inward yaw moment, significantly improving vehicle handling.
*Yaw moment is turning torque relative to the vertical axis running through the vehicle’s center of gravity.
· Deceleration during cornering (throttle closed)
Torque to the outside rear wheel is freely varied to change from an inward to an outward yaw moment, ensuring vehicle stability at all times.
· Straight-line driving
Front-rear torque distribution is regulated for optimum performance in accordance with the amount of torque produced. During rapid acceleration the load on the front wheels is reduced; conversely, rear-wheel load is reduced during cruising. The result is stable driving at all times.
System Configuration
· World’s first direct electromagnetic clutch
An electromagnetic coil (electromagnet) attracts a magnetic body which, in turn, presses on the multi-plate clutch to facilitate torque transmission. A compact clutch unit, equipped with a planetary gear step-up mechanism to increase torque, permits transmission of substantial amounts of torque. A built-in search coil monitors the gap between the electromagnetic coil and the magnetic body. Current flow in the electromagnetic clutch is then adjusted to achieve highly precise torque regulation.
· Acceleration device
During straight-ahead driving, the twin-pinion planetary carrier spins in synchronization with the propeller shaft, causing the front and rear wheels to turn at the same speed. When the vehicle enters a curve, however, the planetary carrier is locked to the case, releasing the device from synchronization with the propeller shaft and accelerating the rotation speed of the rear wheels. A hydraulic actuator which turns the clutches on and off, and a one-way clutch are included in this compact configuration.
· Sensors, ECU
The input of steering angle, lateral g, yaw rate, wheel speed and other sensors monitor driver input, vehicle demeanor, and driving conditions such that the SH-AWD ECU can calculate ideal torque distribution.