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A good way to tell if the RD-X will be able to take a V6 is to look under the hood of the new Civic in the fall - it will share the platform probably.
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Originally Posted by ClutchPerformer
Well in that case, the answer will probably be
Most definently no. But I would hope the CR-V, Element and now RD-X will sell well enough to warrant their own platform.
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Originally Posted by domn
Most definently no. But I would hope the CR-V, Element and now RD-X will sell well enough to warrant their own platform.
I totally agree, they deserve their own platform. The CRV and Element are already so differentiated from the Civic it's odd to say they are from the same platform at this point.
I'm also hoping for the 3.0 V6 in the RDX and feel it will still be different enough from the MDX. While the HP numbers will be close enough for comparison (255 vs 240). That extra .5L gives the MDX the torque it needs for the extra weight and towing capacity of a large SUV (250 vs 212).
I think the RDX and CRV would jump over the competition if they offered the V6 as an option similar to the way the Ody leapfroged other minivans a few years ago. It would make the CRV similar to the Accord offerings and greatly boost sales by offering consumers a choice. Plus if the next generation CRV grows, as it has in the previous generations, it may will need the 240HP & 212 torque to stay ahead of upcoming competition.
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Originally Posted by 98AccordEx
it may will need the 240HP & 212 torque to stay ahead of upcoming competition.
Its a no brainer for Honda IMO. Its pretty much a guarantee that the competition will see power/size increases. Maybe the 2.4 only for the CR-V and the option of a V6 for the RD-X ?
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Originally Posted by domn
Its a no brainer for Honda IMO. Its pretty much a guarantee that the competition will see power/size increases. Maybe the 2.4 only for the CR-V and the option of a V6 for the RD-X ?
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Is this old news?
http://www.difflock.com/buyersguide/...cura_RDX.shtml
If it's all true in this article, I may trade in my TSX...
http://www.difflock.com/buyersguide/...cura_RDX.shtml
If it's all true in this article, I may trade in my TSX...
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Is this old news?
http://www.difflock.com/buyersguide/...cura_RDX.shtml
If it's all true in this article, I may trade in my TSX...
http://www.difflock.com/buyersguide/...cura_RDX.shtml
If it's all true in this article, I may trade in my TSX...
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Originally Posted by biker
It looks like someone is looking at this hybrid thing logically - instead of trying to follow the me-too crowd.
How about that for diffentiating the RDX from the CRV and the MDX???
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Originally Posted by domn
If a hybrid were to be available in the RDX, it should only be an option anyway. Just like it is in the Accord/Civic.
We'll if they design with enough room for the V6hybrid drivetrain then they would of course have enough room for the TSX drivetrain as well but I think ti would be a dog with that setup. Remember the TSX is slippery at 0.27cd and there is no way the RDX will be anywhere close plus it will be at least ~300lbs more than the TSX??
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Originally Posted by provench
Even if a small V6 ... but of course who would have thoght the TSX would succeed with an I4 that only Honda could make this smooth?
Exactly, I use to say the same thing about the TSX
I'd buy a I4 RDX with 220HP for the record, just not sure how many others would.
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Originally Posted by biker
It looks like someone is looking at this hybrid thing logically - instead of trying to follow the me-too crowd.
Now, if they come out with an engine which gives sufficient power for an suv and is efficient, I am all for it.
BTW I love the idea of dropping the accord hybrid engine in this bad boy, now that would be awesome.
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Originally Posted by brutus
What you are not looking at is that if the RDX is to have a 4 cyl at about 200HP maybe a bit more, the hybrid would give the advantage of 6 cyl power, beyond the fact that it is not only a unique car for the moment, but it is less wasteful, and pollutes the air less. People seem to forget that the implications of a hybrid are not strictly better MPG... but they forget it also pollutes the air less.
Now, if they come out with an engine which gives sufficient power for an suv and is efficient, I am all for it.
BTW I love the idea of dropping the accord hybrid engine in this bad boy, now that would be awesome.
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Now, if they come out with an engine which gives sufficient power for an suv and is efficient, I am all for it.
BTW I love the idea of dropping the accord hybrid engine in this bad boy, now that would be awesome.
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Look at the press release...
A quick repost of the press release...
DETROIT 12/16/2004 -- The Acura RD-X Concept vehicle will make its debut at the 2005 North American International Auto Show in Detroit. This concept version of the upcoming Acura entry SUV, which will go on sale in 2006, combines the performance of a sports sedan with the versatility and utility of a premium SUV.
Aimed at active urban professionals and packed full of performance and technology, the RD-X Concept is designed to knife through traffic on crowded city streets and carve up twisty mountain roads. It features aggressive styling, a wide track, bold fender flares and a unique wood and leather interior based on the feeling of an upscale loft apartment.
I really want to believe that if the price rumors of $30k - $35k are true, and Acura is touting "performance" (quoted twice), "technology", "knife through traffic" and "carve up twisty mountain roads", that this vehicle HAS to be more than a CR-V with agressive styling, bluetooth and climate control, especially if it's going to be $7k - $10k more than a CR-V, and more than most Pilots.
Therefore, it must have SH-AWD, a V6, IMA, and/or something to set it apart and justify this price range.
Otherwise, if it's going to cost $28k - $30k max, then probably not.
Just a few more days...
DETROIT 12/16/2004 -- The Acura RD-X Concept vehicle will make its debut at the 2005 North American International Auto Show in Detroit. This concept version of the upcoming Acura entry SUV, which will go on sale in 2006, combines the performance of a sports sedan with the versatility and utility of a premium SUV.
Aimed at active urban professionals and packed full of performance and technology, the RD-X Concept is designed to knife through traffic on crowded city streets and carve up twisty mountain roads. It features aggressive styling, a wide track, bold fender flares and a unique wood and leather interior based on the feeling of an upscale loft apartment.
I really want to believe that if the price rumors of $30k - $35k are true, and Acura is touting "performance" (quoted twice), "technology", "knife through traffic" and "carve up twisty mountain roads", that this vehicle HAS to be more than a CR-V with agressive styling, bluetooth and climate control, especially if it's going to be $7k - $10k more than a CR-V, and more than most Pilots.
Therefore, it must have SH-AWD, a V6, IMA, and/or something to set it apart and justify this price range.
Otherwise, if it's going to cost $28k - $30k max, then probably not.
Just a few more days...
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Originally posted by domn
The RDX should IMO have a standard V6. The 4 banger in the CR-V is barely acceptable to most so I could not imagine a I4 in a "luxury" SUV.
The RDX should IMO have a standard V6. The 4 banger in the CR-V is barely acceptable to most so I could not imagine a I4 in a "luxury" SUV.
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can't wait to see the RDX in Detroit...
someone take lots of pics
someone take lots of pics
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Here is my question, where is everyone getting these 35K prices from?
It will be priced under 30K, something like 29,900. Maybe add $2k for Nav or something.
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It will be priced under 30K, something like 29,900. Maybe add $2k for Nav or something.
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Originally Posted by brutus
Here is my question, where is everyone getting these 35K prices from?
It will be priced under 30K, something like 29,900. Maybe add $2k for Nav or something.
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It will be priced under 30K, something like 29,900. Maybe add $2k for Nav or something.
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I think based on what I am hearing .... less expensive seems most likely, but there is plenty of room under the MDX ... so who knows.
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true dat, but what is more realistic... 30K or 35K?...based on a 4cyl crv -esq suv, lets see the MDX starts at msrp of 37k... so if the thought is Acura is going to price a small 4cyl suv 2K under their MDX makes weird sense.
Practically speaking, the price that makes the most sense is around 30K. Who knows, but if I was a betting man I would go the lower price.
We shall see... geeze I can't wait all this speculation is killing me... can't we get some spy thing a few days early.
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Practically speaking, the price that makes the most sense is around 30K. Who knows, but if I was a betting man I would go the lower price.
We shall see... geeze I can't wait all this speculation is killing me... can't we get some spy thing a few days early.
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true dat, but what is more realistic... 30K or 35K?...based on a 4cyl crv -esq suv, lets see the MDX starts at msrp of 37k... so if the thought is Acura is going to price a small 4cyl suv 2K under their MDX makes weird sense.
PistonFan: hoping for RDX to have 3.0 V6 under $30k without navi.
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I'm not sure about the price but I do see the MDX moving up market just as the TL and RL did. I'm just guessing but I see the MDX adding heated and cooling seats and a pwr rear hatch to name a few. This would allow Acura to price the RD-X close to 30k maybe even over. An RD-X with Touring package, Navi, and Rear Pass Entertainment could easily get close to 35k which would put it on the heals to the current MDX
Now if the MDX does move up market just as its fellow stable mates then I hope Acura has some things up its sleeve. Honda kept the Oddy farily close to the last gen model and just added more stuff (Touring package). Acura may see fit to not up set the apple cart too much by adding more to the MDX, updating the looks and giving it more hp (the RL's 300?)
Anyway you look at it, the RD-X will have the room to be in the Mid 30's with every factory option.
Now if the MDX does move up market just as its fellow stable mates then I hope Acura has some things up its sleeve. Honda kept the Oddy farily close to the last gen model and just added more stuff (Touring package). Acura may see fit to not up set the apple cart too much by adding more to the MDX, updating the looks and giving it more hp (the RL's 300?)
Anyway you look at it, the RD-X will have the room to be in the Mid 30's with every factory option.
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I think we'll get some info ... but if the past is any test ... don't expect any pricing info until the thing is practically unloading off the trucks at the dealers. Honda/Acura are very tight to the vest with pricing info.
I am with you PistonFan, but I think that's a long shot at this point
I am with you PistonFan, but I think that's a long shot at this point
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Originally Posted by PistonFan
Don't forget the RDX won't be produced and sold until '06. You're assuming that the next-gen MDX won't move further upscale with a higher price point.
I was typing my response just as you posted. I think we're on the same page.
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Originally Posted by provench
I think we'll get some info ... but if the past is any test ... don't expect any pricing info until the thing is practically unloading off the trucks at the dealers. Honda/Acura are very tight to the vest with pricing info.
I am with you PistonFan, but I think that's a long shot at this point
I am with you PistonFan, but I think that's a long shot at this point
The biggest revelations I expect on Sunday the 9th are:
1) the engine choice(s) (TSX-I4? : TSX-I4&IMA? : 3.0V6? : 3.0V6hybrid? : 3.5V6? : ????)
2) AWD choice(s) (optional : IMA powered : SH-AWD : Real-time4WD)
3) platform (Accord/Midsize or Civic/Compact)
I agree price will not be divulged but may be hinted since they are releasing as a concept.
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I agree price will not be divulged but may be hinted since they are releasing as a concept.
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Originally Posted by 98AccordEx
The biggest revelations I expect on Sunday the 9th are:
1) the engine choice(s) (TSX-I4? : TSX-I4&IMA? : 3.0V6? : 3.0V6hybrid? : 3.5V6? : ????)
2) AWD choice(s) (optional : IMA powered : SH-AWD : Real-time4WD)
3) platform (Accord/Midsize or Civic/Compact)
I agree price will not be divulged but may be hinted since they are releasing as a concept.
1) the engine choice(s) (TSX-I4? : TSX-I4&IMA? : 3.0V6? : 3.0V6hybrid? : 3.5V6? : ????)
2) AWD choice(s) (optional : IMA powered : SH-AWD : Real-time4WD)
3) platform (Accord/Midsize or Civic/Compact)
I agree price will not be divulged but may be hinted since they are releasing as a concept.
IE: V6 Hybrid will most certainly put it in the 30+K range, and so forth.
I will be completely shocked if there is a v6 in the RDX, it just does not go with Honda, they never seem to go with the bigger engine, it is like pulling teeth with them.... now if it was Nissan, it would be a better chance, since they seem to drop that 6 in everything, it is like they are getting a buy 1 get 1 free from their factory on those engines or something
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Please may I be completely shocked... pretty please. If they price the RDX at about 33K and drop the accord V6 Hybrid engine and don't suck on interior and exterior styling, sign me up! SLAM DUNK baby!
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Originally Posted by biker
If this is going to be an answer to the X3 - the price has to be quite bit lower than that.
I too would be shocked if a V6 is a part of the deal. Honda just doesn't do anything too shocking. Even the annoucement of the Ridgelines's "high out put 3.5" screams 300 hp. I do not understand why Honda is so coy when it's fans can often read between the lines. But maybe I'm wrong about the V6 and I hope I am. The CR-V competition is using V6's right and left so maybe there is hope.
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Originally Posted by biker
If this is going to be an answer to the X3 - the price has to be quite bit lower than that.
The X3 2.5i starts at $30,300 and runs $37,600 when equipped with Acura level features (5spd auto, sunroof, leather, heated seats, cruise control - yes an option for the X3, power seats, etc.)
The X3 3.0i starts at $36,300. and runs $41,700 similarly equipped to an Acura.
I think the RDX has plenty of room between 30-35 to stay ahead. Remember the X3 has exactly gotten great reviews. Actually I don't remember reading even ONE!!!
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Originally Posted by Precision Crafted
If it is going to be an answer to the X3 then there had better be an engine of some caliber. To that end, the 2.4 could work but it needs way more then the current 200. I liked the RD-X concept's original idea of 200hp plus 50 from IMA.
I too would be shocked if a V6 is a part of the deal. Honda just doesn't do anything too shocking. Even the annoucement of the Ridgelines's "high out put 3.5" screams 300 hp. I do not understand why Honda is so coy when it's fans can often read between the lines. But maybe I'm wrong about the V6 and I hope I am. The CR-V competition is using V6's right and left so maybe there is hope.
I too would be shocked if a V6 is a part of the deal. Honda just doesn't do anything too shocking. Even the annoucement of the Ridgelines's "high out put 3.5" screams 300 hp. I do not understand why Honda is so coy when it's fans can often read between the lines. But maybe I'm wrong about the V6 and I hope I am. The CR-V competition is using V6's right and left so maybe there is hope.
I think Acura will step up this time and give us the 3.0V6 to start the RDX off right. The platform sounds like its more likely Accord than Civic based. Honda has delivered in the past - after all the Ody could have been equipped with the 3.0 Accord V6 and would still beat most of its competition????
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I've read where it rides terrible among other things. I've also heard C&D television ask why was it built since it over laps the X5 too much.
The RD-X has playing room to be sure. Acura is going to give buyers alot for their money just like the TSX, TL, and RL. Even the MDX is priced right. Them things are all over Wichita, KS. As I said yesterday, the MDX is moving up market to compete with others in it's class which I say includes Volvo. The RDX will the next gen Aviator to deal with, but I doubt that causes Acura concern. The RDX can and should be a great alternative to X3 if it looks right, has the right equipment beyond XM radio and bluetooth.
The RD-X has playing room to be sure. Acura is going to give buyers alot for their money just like the TSX, TL, and RL. Even the MDX is priced right. Them things are all over Wichita, KS. As I said yesterday, the MDX is moving up market to compete with others in it's class which I say includes Volvo. The RDX will the next gen Aviator to deal with, but I doubt that causes Acura concern. The RDX can and should be a great alternative to X3 if it looks right, has the right equipment beyond XM radio and bluetooth.
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Originally Posted by 98AccordEx
I think Acura will step up this time and give us the 3.0V6 to start the RDX off right. The platform sounds like its more likely Accord than Civic based. Honda has delivered in the past - after all the Ody could have been equipped with the 3.0 Accord V6 and would still beat most of its competition????
Acura saw what Lex did with the RX and did one better by being bigger thus having a 3rd row and not having options to jack up the price. I've always felt that Acura should have a small V6 offering and the 3.0 would fill the bill. Now if the next gen TSX would be made into a series to offer both a 4 bagger and a V6!
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