Acura: Integra News
11-05-2014, 07:20 PM
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It will certainly be interesting to see if/what Acura does over the next several years. I almost bought an Integra back in 88, but as a poor college kid, the dealer installed options of a radio and AC pushed it out of my budget. That's right dealer installed........
11-05-2014, 10:08 PM
#42
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This could be great, As long as its NOT a 2 door Civic much like the ILX is the 4 door civic.
11-05-2014, 10:11 PM
#43
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11-06-2014, 12:33 AM
#44
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from the supplied info, it doesn't seem like this car will be related to other models
11-06-2014, 02:11 AM
#45
2G TLX-S
11-06-2014, 07:52 AM
#46
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If it's just a civic with some fascia changes it will fail. Acura does not need anymore FWD sports sedans. Either make it AWD or RWD. The Honda S200 was RWD platform. It can be done. The ILX is a joke and sales reflect that.
11-06-2014, 08:22 AM
#47
He wouldn’t be any more specific, only acknowledging that Honda erred in the past trying to make the brand too upscale,...
11-06-2014, 10:56 AM
#48
99 TL, 06 E350
It took them over tens years to figure that out?
11-06-2014, 11:02 AM
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11-06-2014, 11:22 AM
#51
Can't see RWD happening(in ILX based coupe).
But can you imagine a 280hp turbo 4 hooked up to SH-AWD?!! In a compact car like an ILX(coupe?)? OMG!!!
BTW Acura, NO F-ing FWD, please!! Leave the FWD coupes to Honda. Any ILX/TLX-based coupe NEEDS to be SH-AWD(standard), IMHO!
11-06-2014, 02:38 PM
#54
Everyone wants a new Integra....
What was the Integra?
a 1.8l dohc NA coupe or sedan making at most 190hp on the ITR
What is the ILX?
a 2.0l sohc NA sedan making 150hp
or 2.4l dohc NA sedan making 201hp
We have an Integra already it just doesn't have a coupe variant. The 2.4 ILX makes more power than the ITR and GSR as well the 2.0 ILX is quicker than the LS and RS.
As for the ITR though, Honda lost out on every Type R sale made. Not exactly incentive to make another.
What was the Integra?
a 1.8l dohc NA coupe or sedan making at most 190hp on the ITR
What is the ILX?
a 2.0l sohc NA sedan making 150hp
or 2.4l dohc NA sedan making 201hp
We have an Integra already it just doesn't have a coupe variant. The 2.4 ILX makes more power than the ITR and GSR as well the 2.0 ILX is quicker than the LS and RS.
As for the ITR though, Honda lost out on every Type R sale made. Not exactly incentive to make another.
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11-06-2014, 03:05 PM
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Everyone wants a new Integra....
What was the Integra?
a 1.8l dohc NA coupe or sedan making at most 190hp on the ITR
What is the ILX?
a 2.0l sohc NA sedan making 150hp
or 2.4l dohc NA sedan making 201hp
We have an Integra already it just doesn't have a coupe variant. The 2.4 ILX makes more power than the ITR and GSR as well the 2.0 ILX is quicker than the LS and RS.
As for the ITR though, Honda lost out on every Type R sale made. Not exactly incentive to make another.
What was the Integra?
a 1.8l dohc NA coupe or sedan making at most 190hp on the ITR
What is the ILX?
a 2.0l sohc NA sedan making 150hp
or 2.4l dohc NA sedan making 201hp
We have an Integra already it just doesn't have a coupe variant. The 2.4 ILX makes more power than the ITR and GSR as well the 2.0 ILX is quicker than the LS and RS.
As for the ITR though, Honda lost out on every Type R sale made. Not exactly incentive to make another.
Remember also, the Integra was great in its time period for a number of reasons, but a modern Integra would not be the ILX. The standards are significantly higher now. No type are would have a 1.8L 190 hp engine now. That was better then.
11-06-2014, 03:17 PM
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Everyone wants a new Integra....
What was the Integra?
a 1.8l dohc NA coupe or sedan making at most 190hp on the ITR
What is the ILX?
a 2.0l sohc NA sedan making 150hp
or 2.4l dohc NA sedan making 201hp
We have an Integra already it just doesn't have a coupe variant. The 2.4 ILX makes more power than the ITR and GSR as well the 2.0 ILX is quicker than the LS and RS.
As for the ITR though, Honda lost out on every Type R sale made. Not exactly incentive to make another.
What was the Integra?
a 1.8l dohc NA coupe or sedan making at most 190hp on the ITR
What is the ILX?
a 2.0l sohc NA sedan making 150hp
or 2.4l dohc NA sedan making 201hp
We have an Integra already it just doesn't have a coupe variant. The 2.4 ILX makes more power than the ITR and GSR as well the 2.0 ILX is quicker than the LS and RS.
As for the ITR though, Honda lost out on every Type R sale made. Not exactly incentive to make another.
The engine output number? That's it?
It's the same fucking car?
Eat before you talk son.
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11-06-2014, 03:22 PM
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Give me another ITR that is meaningful. I will buy it tomorrow. No lie.
Given Acura's track record lately, I would rather SEE what they do than listen to more crap about bringing their 90's mojo back.
300 hp, SH-AWD, ILX-sized car with sticky rubber, a proper stance (not the usual Acura 4 x 4 stance), and a 6MT (OK, OK, a DCT, that's what everyone is doing) would do it for me.
Given Acura's track record lately, I would rather SEE what they do than listen to more crap about bringing their 90's mojo back.
300 hp, SH-AWD, ILX-sized car with sticky rubber, a proper stance (not the usual Acura 4 x 4 stance), and a 6MT (OK, OK, a DCT, that's what everyone is doing) would do it for me.
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11-06-2014, 03:55 PM
#58
The GSR is a 2,600lb 1.8l pushing 170hp and 128lb torque.
The ILX 2.4 is making 30 more hp and 40lb more torque while being only 400lb heavier.
Similar disc brake set up. Similar weight ratio.
Similar mpg. Similar wheel base. Similar proportions.
Yeah, the 2.4 is the GS-R of the 21st century.
If you want to claim it's no ITR I'll give you that. But I owned an Integra LS. Now I own a 2.0 ILX. I can tell you from first hand experience how similar modding this car is as well as performance.
I mean, ask most Honda tuners if they would take a K24 or a B18C and they are going to tell you K24 all day.
11-06-2014, 05:07 PM
#59
Give me another ITR that is meaningful. I will buy it tomorrow. No lie.
Given Acura's track record lately, I would rather SEE what they do than listen to more crap about bringing their 90's mojo back.
300 hp, SH-AWD, ILX-sized car with sticky rubber, a proper stance (not the usual Acura 4 x 4 stance), and a 6MT (OK, OK, a DCT, that's what everyone is doing) would do it for me.
Given Acura's track record lately, I would rather SEE what they do than listen to more crap about bringing their 90's mojo back.
300 hp, SH-AWD, ILX-sized car with sticky rubber, a proper stance (not the usual Acura 4 x 4 stance), and a 6MT (OK, OK, a DCT, that's what everyone is doing) would do it for me.
STOP RESTING ON YOUR LAURELS, ACURA!
11-06-2014, 05:58 PM
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Yeah. It is. Please tell me what makes the two cars so different.
The GSR is a 2,600lb 1.8l pushing 170hp and 128lb torque.
The ILX 2.4 is making 30 more hp and 40lb more torque while being only 400lb heavier.
Similar disc brake set up. Similar weight ratio.
Similar mpg. Similar wheel base. Similar proportions.
Yeah, the 2.4 is the GS-R of the 21st century.
If you want to claim it's no ITR I'll give you that. But I owned an Integra LS. Now I own a 2.0 ILX. I can tell you from first hand experience how similar modding this car is as well as performance.
I mean, ask most Honda tuners if they would take a K24 or a B18C and they are going to tell you K24 all day.
The GSR is a 2,600lb 1.8l pushing 170hp and 128lb torque.
The ILX 2.4 is making 30 more hp and 40lb more torque while being only 400lb heavier.
Similar disc brake set up. Similar weight ratio.
Similar mpg. Similar wheel base. Similar proportions.
Yeah, the 2.4 is the GS-R of the 21st century.
If you want to claim it's no ITR I'll give you that. But I owned an Integra LS. Now I own a 2.0 ILX. I can tell you from first hand experience how similar modding this car is as well as performance.
I mean, ask most Honda tuners if they would take a K24 or a B18C and they are going to tell you K24 all day.
11-06-2014, 07:08 PM
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11-06-2014, 07:50 PM
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GSR
170 hp and 2,595 lbs = 0.0655 hp per lb
128 lb-ft toque
Zero to 60 mph: 7.1 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 15.5 sec @ 91.4 mph
ILX 2.4
201 hp and 2978 lbs = 0.0674 hp per lb
170 lb-ft torque
Zero to 60 mph: 6.9 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 15.4 sec @ 91 mph
RSX-S
200 hp and 2736 lbs = 0.0730 hp per lb
142 lb-ft torque
Zero to 60 mph: 6.8 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 15.4 sec @ 93 mph
GSR
170 hp and 2,595 lbs = 0.0655 hp per lb
128 lb-ft toque
Zero to 60 mph: 7.1 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 15.5 sec @ 91.4 mph
ILX 2.4
201 hp and 2978 lbs = 0.0674 hp per lb
170 lb-ft torque
Zero to 60 mph: 6.9 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 15.4 sec @ 91 mph
RSX-S
200 hp and 2736 lbs = 0.0730 hp per lb
142 lb-ft torque
Zero to 60 mph: 6.8 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 15.4 sec @ 93 mph
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11-06-2014, 09:45 PM
#63
First you wanted an Integra, now you want an IMPROVED Integra.
300hp sh-awd ILX? PLEASE. Now we are talking an STI with added luxury. Not a $30k car anymore my friend.
How many of you have owned both cars let alone modded them?
300hp sh-awd ILX? PLEASE. Now we are talking an STI with added luxury. Not a $30k car anymore my friend.
How many of you have owned both cars let alone modded them?
11-06-2014, 09:52 PM
#64
All these numbers just prove how close the two cars are.
Only argument with any credence is that the improvements from Integra to ILX have not been substantial. I'd agree, and say you frankly you probably wont see another car improve upon what is available like the Integra did for it's time.
As well, I don't think Acura cares to try. You don't make another Integra if you want to compete with the likes of Lexus.
Only argument with any credence is that the improvements from Integra to ILX have not been substantial. I'd agree, and say you frankly you probably wont see another car improve upon what is available like the Integra did for it's time.
As well, I don't think Acura cares to try. You don't make another Integra if you want to compete with the likes of Lexus.
11-06-2014, 10:01 PM
#65
I drive a Subata.
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Oh, you own a ILX....no wonder. 
11-06-2014, 10:19 PM
#66
Exactly. My opinion actually has experience to back it up.
11-06-2014, 10:36 PM
#67
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best case scenario, it does come to fruition...
but we all now that given todays competitive landscape, acura will not deviate too far from the civic platform for the sake of profit margins. it will/would be a 2 door ILX / spruced up civic coupe.
if youre expecting something "newly" built from the ground up, you may need to have your head examined. this would be, at best, an iteration of the washed down products we know of today. youre not going to find a ground shattering car from acura like you did in the 90s. if youre looking for that sort of thing, go seek other self establishing companies like kia or hyundai. they are the current day acuras of the 90s in terms of pushing the envelope to gain ground.
might i remind you of the RSX...that was 10 years ago...if that didnt satisfy then, you damn well know acura isnt going to satisfy now.
but we all now that given todays competitive landscape, acura will not deviate too far from the civic platform for the sake of profit margins. it will/would be a 2 door ILX / spruced up civic coupe.
if youre expecting something "newly" built from the ground up, you may need to have your head examined. this would be, at best, an iteration of the washed down products we know of today. youre not going to find a ground shattering car from acura like you did in the 90s. if youre looking for that sort of thing, go seek other self establishing companies like kia or hyundai. they are the current day acuras of the 90s in terms of pushing the envelope to gain ground.
might i remind you of the RSX...that was 10 years ago...if that didnt satisfy then, you damn well know acura isnt going to satisfy now.
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11-06-2014, 10:58 PM
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It will be based off of a Civic, that's not necessarily a bad thing.
I'd imagine a 280 hp+ turbo 4, with SH-AWD, 6MT would be a good start.
I'd imagine a 280 hp+ turbo 4, with SH-AWD, 6MT would be a good start.
11-06-2014, 11:59 PM
#69
Go buy an STI then.
An Acura with 280hp+ and sh-awd will easily be a 40thousand dollar car.
You guys will never be pleased. If you want a sports car wait for the NSX or jump ship.
An Acura with 280hp+ and sh-awd will easily be a 40thousand dollar car.
You guys will never be pleased. If you want a sports car wait for the NSX or jump ship.
11-07-2014, 12:32 AM
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I don't see a new Integra being a 300hp car. I see it being more in the ball park of BRZ, as one example. It will be an "enthusiast" car meaning it brings more of the "sport" factor back to the brand, such as the Integra did in the beginning.
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11-07-2014, 03:36 AM
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11-07-2014, 03:42 AM
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No, what I was implying was that you were being defensive because you own a ILX.
From my experience, ILX is no where close to Integra in terms of driving feel.
Please don't get mad about it. Just my opinion.
That's why I'm excited about this news.
Even just for the exterior design, I personally think ILX is one of the most boring design ever. The proportion looks odd. It seems very high in the air. The backend looks plain. Interior is nothing to write home about.
It's just not very engaging.
Integra, on the other hand, is extemely engaging as a driver. There was just something about it that made me smile every time.I got to drive it.
Anyway, I hope Acura make this happen and actually release a "fun Honda" car in the near future. :thumsup:
From my experience, ILX is no where close to Integra in terms of driving feel.
Please don't get mad about it. Just my opinion.
That's why I'm excited about this news.
Even just for the exterior design, I personally think ILX is one of the most boring design ever. The proportion looks odd. It seems very high in the air. The backend looks plain. Interior is nothing to write home about.
It's just not very engaging.
Integra, on the other hand, is extemely engaging as a driver. There was just something about it that made me smile every time.I got to drive it.
Anyway, I hope Acura make this happen and actually release a "fun Honda" car in the near future. :thumsup:
11-07-2014, 03:43 AM
#73
Whoa whoa I never spoke ill against the s2k. I will own one one day. 
I'm just saying Acura is not trying to compete with the STI by producing a near 300hp turbo sports car. With the added Acura luxuries the car would be over 40grand msrp.
I'm just saying Acura is not trying to compete with the STI by producing a near 300hp turbo sports car. With the added Acura luxuries the car would be over 40grand msrp.
11-07-2014, 03:52 AM
#74
No, what I was implying was that you were being defensive because you own a ILX.
From my experience, ILX is no where close to Integra in terms of driving feel.
Please don't get mad about it. Just my opinion.
That's why I'm excited about this news.
Even just for the exterior design, I personally think ILX is one of the most boring design ever. The proportion looks odd. It seems very high in the air. The backend looks plain. Interior is nothing to write home about.
It's just not very engaging.
Integra, on the other hand, is extemely engaging as a driver. There was just something about it that made me smile every time.I got to drive it.
Anyway, I hope Acura make this happen and actually release a "fun Honda" car in the near future. :thumsup:
From my experience, ILX is no where close to Integra in terms of driving feel.
Please don't get mad about it. Just my opinion.
That's why I'm excited about this news.
Even just for the exterior design, I personally think ILX is one of the most boring design ever. The proportion looks odd. It seems very high in the air. The backend looks plain. Interior is nothing to write home about.
It's just not very engaging.
Integra, on the other hand, is extemely engaging as a driver. There was just something about it that made me smile every time.I got to drive it.
Anyway, I hope Acura make this happen and actually release a "fun Honda" car in the near future. :thumsup:
I'm not blindly defending the car. I agree it has it's short comings.
But I owned an Integra LS, and I own an ILX 2.0
Yes the Integra is hunkered down a bit lower. IT WAS A SPORTY COUPE. At least mine was a coupe. The ILX is as close to the Integra as Acura will get with their new luxury face.
Look, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If you are going to tell me the Integra looked good to you Id have to laugh because yes you and I may like it but the nation as a whole gave the "bug eyed" Integra a very poor review on its debut based on looks. Japan immediately swapped back over to the single headlights after like a year where as the US market kept trucking forward with the bug eyes even making them bigger in 1997.
As for me, I think the ILX looks gorgeous and as do the frankly tons of people that have asked me about my car. Far more than my Integra, which I believe was very clean myself.
I'm not mad. I'm just giving my opinion like anyone else here. I do believe however having owned both cars my opinion has more backing it up.
I too cant wait to see what Acura has planned but I believe you will be upset if you think it will be closer to the 90s Integra than the ILX hit. Not a small 2 door coupe anyway with more power and less luxury.
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11-07-2014, 09:25 AM
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11-07-2014, 09:35 AM
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If they do make this, and go the typical Acura route, and try selling a $30k+ 200ish hp FWD ILX coupe, how terrible are the sales going to be?
11-07-2014, 09:36 AM
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11-07-2014, 11:44 AM
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I like that better.Well, they finally got the RLX Sport Hybrid out. I was SURE that was going to be vaporware. Maybe there is something to this NSX thing, too.
Hopefully it won't take another five years to put out an enthusiast's car that the typical Acura buyer can attain.
11-07-2014, 12:31 PM
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I'd gladly pay $50k for an Acura that has 350hp, 6mt, AWD, and the reliability that comes with a Honda. Unfortunately that isn't going to happen and as such the only other choices come out of Germany. Cost is not an issue here, the 3 series sells by the hundreds of thousands and at a cost that's higher than both the ILX and TLX. Why? Because it's a better car and worth the money.