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#4361
Acura MDX 3.0 hybrid much much faster than 3.5L RX450H.
Acura RL hybrid identical performance with 3.3T Genesis G80.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...d-test-review/
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...d-test-review/
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internalaudit (11-15-2019)
#4362
C&D took this picture in other context. but it show 2G TSX design, quality and technology was decade ahead of its time. no one can beat its fuel economic with 5speed Auto at higher speeds.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...tate-vehicles/
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...tate-vehicles/
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internalaudit (11-18-2019)
#4363
Team Owner
You worry about your MPG at 100+MPH? get your priority straight!
C&D took this picture in other context. but it show 2G TSX design, quality and technology was decade ahead of its time. no one can beat its fuel economic with 5speed Auto at higher speeds.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...tate-vehicles/
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...tate-vehicles/
#4364
C&D took this picture in other context. but it show 2G TSX design, quality and technology was decade ahead of its time. no one can beat its fuel economic with 5speed Auto at higher speeds.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...tate-vehicles/
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...tate-vehicles/
#Luxury
You do realize that TSX and ILX different vehicles. one comes with Double wishbone suspension and other not. same for rim/tire size and leather difference.
TLX is non leather non double wishbone 4 cylinder vehicle compared to Premium TL. TLX don't even have chrome handles like TSX.
TLX is non leather non double wishbone 4 cylinder vehicle compared to Premium TL. TLX don't even have chrome handles like TSX.
#4365
#4367
Moderator
Logic inserted, change course to new argument.
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civicdrivr (11-19-2019)
#4368
Ex-OEM King
He's just sad that he has to live with that car and tries to find every possible, and delusional, means of justifying it to others.
Also, 6s to 60 is slow these days. My economy car can beat that by spades. If a "performance sedan" isn't 5 or less, it's going to get shat on.
Also, 6s to 60 is slow these days. My economy car can beat that by spades. If a "performance sedan" isn't 5 or less, it's going to get shat on.
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#4369
Team Owner
His TSX can do 6s? I forgot is his V6?
#4370
Team Owner
How you can tell that TSX's design, quality and technology was decade ahead of its time from the picture below is beyond me...
C&D took this picture in other context. but it show 2G TSX design, quality and technology was decade ahead of its time. no one can beat its fuel economic with 5speed Auto at higher speeds.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...tate-vehicles/
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...tate-vehicles/
#4371
Notice the crack in the pavement leading up to the TSX. It's symbolism and represents how the TSX was, at the time, earth shattering... a monumental achievement in automotive design and engineering.
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civicdrivr (11-19-2019)
#4372
Racer
If a RAV4 PHEV can be made sporty, so can the entire Acura line up sans the ILX if it's too cheap to make a profit on:
https://pressroom.toyota.com/2021-ra...les-auto-show/
https://pressroom.toyota.com/2021-ra...les-auto-show/
#4373
Team Owner
The way i see it is the earth is so mad at Acura and its design, it shoot out a shock wave towards that TSX hoping to shatter it into pieces, so the it wont run on this earth anymore.
#4374
He's just sad that he has to live with that car and tries to find every possible, and delusional, means of justifying it to others.
Also, 6s to 60 is slow these days. My economy car can beat that by spades. If a "performance sedan" isn't 5 or less, it's going to get shat on.
Also, 6s to 60 is slow these days. My economy car can beat that by spades. If a "performance sedan" isn't 5 or less, it's going to get shat on.
#4375
Whats up with RDX owners?
iTrader: (9)
So because of that diesel-sounding DI engine, does that mean you wouldn't buy any current Acura? Since, you know...they're all DI now.
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RPhilMan1 (11-21-2019)
#4376
Team Owner
^ Noob... Acura's DI is different. it provides Superior bhp while silent like a Tesla. When it is idling, all you hear the sound of superiority from the air conditioning, not the engine.
But i do have a question tho... why wider seats? your ass is fat or what? SSFTSX?
But i do have a question tho... why wider seats? your ass is fat or what? SSFTSX?
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#4377
^ Noob... Acura's DI is different. it provides Superior bhp while silent like a Tesla. When it is idling, all you hear the sound of superiority from the air conditioning, not the engine.
But i do have a question tho... why wider seats? your ass is fat or what? SSFTSX?
But i do have a question tho... why wider seats? your ass is fat or what? SSFTSX?
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#4378
Whats up with RDX owners?
iTrader: (9)
#1 - seats are for your ass, not your hands
#2 - the hell does a Ferrari have to do with this?
#2 - the hell does a Ferrari have to do with this?
#4379
Safety Car
Type S Concept
#4380
Moderator
I can't think of a single street-legal, mass-production car, where I've had any conscious thought of the seats being too narrow/wide.
WRT hand placement, things like positioning of the center console & door armrests/windowsills would have a direct bearing on how your arms rest in the car, the seat has very little to do with it.
WRT hand placement, things like positioning of the center console & door armrests/windowsills would have a direct bearing on how your arms rest in the car, the seat has very little to do with it.
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RPhilMan1 (11-22-2019)
#4381
I can't think of a single street-legal, mass-production car, where I've had any conscious thought of the seats being too narrow/wide.
WRT hand placement, things like positioning of the center console & door armrests/windowsills would have a direct bearing on how your arms rest in the car, the seat has very little to do with it.
WRT hand placement, things like positioning of the center console & door armrests/windowsills would have a direct bearing on how your arms rest in the car, the seat has very little to do with it.
#4382
2024 Honda Civic Type R
Or tell them to sit in the back.
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civicdrivr (11-22-2019)
#4383
Team Owner
^ no, tell them to get the fuck out. they are slowing the car down.
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#4384
Ferrari was in first picture under cover. if you don't like Italian. I can post it with Germanic crap.
#4385
Whats up with RDX owners?
iTrader: (9)
I just love making you post photos of your car that have other cars as the main focal point.
And it's nice to see you complain about an Acura design (dashboard on your face). Maybe this is the beginnings of your awakening, when you realize that Acura is not the pinnacle of performance or engineering.
And it's nice to see you complain about an Acura design (dashboard on your face). Maybe this is the beginnings of your awakening, when you realize that Acura is not the pinnacle of performance or engineering.
#4386
Current Acuras have short comings in design. but the problem is not that big compared to German and Korean brands. what is happening today to German brands. tomorrow the same to Korean.
bottom line is that Acura is not a burden on Honda that's they point I wanted to come across to Yeh. the know nothing market person from Hyundai.
German used to build high powered diesels and made big claims about fuel efficiency. now everything fall apart. largest job cuts. Need help from French and Chinese for battery powered vehicles and electronics.
I don't even want to speculate if big D find about Germany increasing dependence on some other countries.
https://www.dw.com/de/deutsche-autoi...elt/a-51482760
bottom line is that Acura is not a burden on Honda that's they point I wanted to come across to Yeh. the know nothing market person from Hyundai.
German used to build high powered diesels and made big claims about fuel efficiency. now everything fall apart. largest job cuts. Need help from French and Chinese for battery powered vehicles and electronics.
I don't even want to speculate if big D find about Germany increasing dependence on some other countries.
https://www.dw.com/de/deutsche-autoi...elt/a-51482760
German car industry: The myth is crumbling
The highway. The Mercedes. But also BMW and Volkswagen, with Audi in tow: no industry is more connected to the German soul. But the epitome of Germany's brilliance and glory falters.
#4387
https://acurazine.com/forums/automot.../#post16275766
https://www.wsj.com/articles/honda-t...ble-1533484840
Honda Took Pride in Doing Everything Itself. The Cost of Technology Made That Impossible.
Aug. 5, 2018 12:00 p.m. ET
TOKYO — A semiautonomous Honda SUV was traveling down a test track at 20 miles an hour in March last year when a child-size test dummy moved into the middle of the road. Oblivious, the Honda mowed it down.
It was part of a brutal day of Japanese government testing for Honda Motor Co., whose vehicle was equipped with a camera and sensors that were supposed to detect obstacles and apply brakes to avoid a collision. The SUV scored 0.2 out of a possible 25 points in the pedestrian portion of the test, the worst among tested vehicles.
With its long heritage of technical prowess, Honda was determined to do better—and it did. But Honda engineering didn’t get it there. The car maker turned to an off-the-shelf sensing kit from Robert Bosch GmbH, the companies said.
Honda’s decision to go shopping points to a radical culture change at one of Japan’s proudest companies, where founder Soichiro Honda in the 1960s said, “We refuse to depend on anyone else.” The struggle at the entrepreneurial success story cuts deep into Japan’s sense of itself as a global leader in technology.
Car makers around the world are under stress from the huge investments needed to develop new technologies used in electric vehicles and autonomous driving. To trim costs, most are leaning on megasuppliers such as Bosch, Continental AG and Denso Corp. , as well as smaller companies with cutting-edge technology such as Intel Corp. subsidiary Mobileye.
Honda has announced deals with Chinese search giant Baidu Inc. to develop mapping technology for autonomous vehicles, and with Chinese startup SenseTime Co. to build camera software for self-driving vehicles. The company has a deal with SoftBank Corp. for artificial intelligence that SoftBank says will be able to read a driver’s emotions, so that in the future cars can perform tasks such as suggesting music based on your mood.
Honda, which prides itself above all on its engines, is farming out the development of an electric motor. Hitachi Ltd.’s auto-parts division has the majority stake in a joint venture with Honda that will make electric motors for Honda cars by March 2021. By 2030, two-thirds of its cars will be partially or fully electric, Mr. Hachigo said. In June, Honda also said it would buy electric-car batteries from General Motors Co.
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Honda Took Pride in Doing Everything Itself. The Cost of Technology Made That Impossible.
Aug. 5, 2018 12:00 p.m. ET
TOKYO — A semiautonomous Honda SUV was traveling down a test track at 20 miles an hour in March last year when a child-size test dummy moved into the middle of the road. Oblivious, the Honda mowed it down.
It was part of a brutal day of Japanese government testing for Honda Motor Co., whose vehicle was equipped with a camera and sensors that were supposed to detect obstacles and apply brakes to avoid a collision. The SUV scored 0.2 out of a possible 25 points in the pedestrian portion of the test, the worst among tested vehicles.
With its long heritage of technical prowess, Honda was determined to do better—and it did. But Honda engineering didn’t get it there. The car maker turned to an off-the-shelf sensing kit from Robert Bosch GmbH, the companies said.
Honda’s decision to go shopping points to a radical culture change at one of Japan’s proudest companies, where founder Soichiro Honda in the 1960s said, “We refuse to depend on anyone else.” The struggle at the entrepreneurial success story cuts deep into Japan’s sense of itself as a global leader in technology.
Car makers around the world are under stress from the huge investments needed to develop new technologies used in electric vehicles and autonomous driving. To trim costs, most are leaning on megasuppliers such as Bosch, Continental AG and Denso Corp. , as well as smaller companies with cutting-edge technology such as Intel Corp. subsidiary Mobileye.
Honda has announced deals with Chinese search giant Baidu Inc. to develop mapping technology for autonomous vehicles, and with Chinese startup SenseTime Co. to build camera software for self-driving vehicles. The company has a deal with SoftBank Corp. for artificial intelligence that SoftBank says will be able to read a driver’s emotions, so that in the future cars can perform tasks such as suggesting music based on your mood.
Honda, which prides itself above all on its engines, is farming out the development of an electric motor. Hitachi Ltd.’s auto-parts division has the majority stake in a joint venture with Honda that will make electric motors for Honda cars by March 2021. By 2030, two-thirds of its cars will be partially or fully electric, Mr. Hachigo said. In June, Honda also said it would buy electric-car batteries from General Motors Co.
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https://acurazine.com/forums/automot.../#post16306769
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/03/gm-a...s-vehicle.html
GM and Honda team up to build an autonomous vehicle
Oct 3 2018
Honda is taking a stake in General Motors subsidiary Cruise Holdings as part of a plan for the Japanese and American automakers to work together developing and building an autonomous vehicle.
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GM and Honda team up to build an autonomous vehicle
Oct 3 2018
Honda is taking a stake in General Motors subsidiary Cruise Holdings as part of a plan for the Japanese and American automakers to work together developing and building an autonomous vehicle.
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...les/680198002/
GM, Honda sign deal to develop batteries for electric vehicles
Jun 7, 2018
General Motors and Honda have signed a deal to collaborate on battery development for electric vehicles.
The move deepens the advanced technology alliance between Detroit-based GM and Japan-based Honda, which are already working together on hydrogen fuel cells.
The latest accord involves the development of battery components, including cells and modules, "to accelerate both companies' plans for all-electric vehicles," GM and Honda said Thursday in a statement.
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Jun 7, 2018
General Motors and Honda have signed a deal to collaborate on battery development for electric vehicles.
The move deepens the advanced technology alliance between Detroit-based GM and Japan-based Honda, which are already working together on hydrogen fuel cells.
The latest accord involves the development of battery components, including cells and modules, "to accelerate both companies' plans for all-electric vehicles," GM and Honda said Thursday in a statement.
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internalaudit (12-03-2019)
#4388
your reading comprehension problem. Honda have joint ventures in China and most likely buying parts and technology in China for Asian market.
similar is Honda North America. Honda Japan, etc Honda North American product will not have Chinese part if it is required. . Honda is very small part employment wise for Japan. that's why they don't need to shed Japanese employees like Germans are now cutting left and right inside.
Germanic crap has spread factories all around EU all the way to Turkey-Russia. in efficient factories, supply chain. there is no quality control. huge environmental fines. un realistic subisdized leases.
similar is Honda North America. Honda Japan, etc Honda North American product will not have Chinese part if it is required. . Honda is very small part employment wise for Japan. that's why they don't need to shed Japanese employees like Germans are now cutting left and right inside.
Germanic crap has spread factories all around EU all the way to Turkey-Russia. in efficient factories, supply chain. there is no quality control. huge environmental fines. un realistic subisdized leases.
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#4389
Ex-OEM King
There many other things to consider beside 0-60 time if keeping the car long term like turn radius for taking fast u turns,range at higher speed, brakes, summer performance tires, suspension ,engine,and electronics life span, Insulation and thermal protection. wider seats and seat height adjustment. refinement of engine. unlike the diesel like sound of DI engine. more than 10 years old car is without any airconditioning service.
My problem was that I DID fit into the Recaros and couldn't move lol. Made me claustrophobic AF.
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00TL-P3.2 (12-02-2019)
#4390
Except YOU mentioned 0-60 times, not me. Our Subaru Outback has a better turn radius and my VW has a longer range at higher speeds with summer performance tires, and a better suspension than any Acura on the market today. Come on over, we'll compare head to head on the spot, we can even do 5-60 or 30-70 or whatever times you want. My guess is my econobox will eat your TSX for every meal all while getting better gas mileage.
just to give you idea. you can easily put 19.5 Gallon into TSX. at 1/4 of Tank it travel 215 miles at just over 2 hours under airconditioning.
He likes posting pics of his car parked next to better ones.
TSX aerodynamics were so advanced 18 year ago with 1G Diesel. 2G is atleast 15% better in aerodynamics and far quieter ,refined . 64 dba at over 80 mph with Pirrelli tires.
https://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/18/a...s/18DRIVE.html
The Accord delivered 50 m.p.g. even during a 75-m.p.h. cruise and 40 m.p.g. when I flogged it like a Nascar yahoo.
The Accord delivered 50 m.p.g. even during a 75-m.p.h. cruise and 40 m.p.g. when I flogged it like a Nascar yahoo.
I had both 1G and 2G so I know what I am talking about. I have owned and tested cars in Europe and other countries.
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#4391
https://www.driving.co.uk/car-review...d-type-s-2011/
The Clarkson review: Honda Accord Type S (2011)
But there’s more. The Type S package means an “aero” body kit — which I couldn’t spot — bigger wheels, low-profile tyres and sports suspension. You would imagine, therefore, that you were in for a bone-shaking ride. But you’re not. At the BBC’s underground car park in White City there are speed bumps of such severity that in most cars I weave about through the bays rather than drive over them. Even at 1mph they hurt. But with the Accord they weren’t there. I didn’t feel them at all. It was as if I was trying to park a hovercraft. So, it’s fast, economical, comfortable … and almost unbelievably well made
Slam the door on a Subaru Legacy — another well-made car — and it makes the sound of a shot pheasant hitting the ground on a frosty morning. Slam the door on the Honda Accord and it makes the sound of a pheasant coming in to land … after you’ve missed it. It’s almost silent.
There’s a similar sensation of quality on the inside. This is a car that doesn’t feel assembled. It feels as though it’s been hewn from one solid block of steel. It’s a Barbour jacket. It’s a Scottish mountain. Push a button in a Honda and it feels as if you could push it a billion times and it would still be working. It’s the exact opposite, then, of an iPhone.
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The Clarkson review: Honda Accord Type S (2011)
But there’s more. The Type S package means an “aero” body kit — which I couldn’t spot — bigger wheels, low-profile tyres and sports suspension. You would imagine, therefore, that you were in for a bone-shaking ride. But you’re not. At the BBC’s underground car park in White City there are speed bumps of such severity that in most cars I weave about through the bays rather than drive over them. Even at 1mph they hurt. But with the Accord they weren’t there. I didn’t feel them at all. It was as if I was trying to park a hovercraft. So, it’s fast, economical, comfortable … and almost unbelievably well made
Slam the door on a Subaru Legacy — another well-made car — and it makes the sound of a shot pheasant hitting the ground on a frosty morning. Slam the door on the Honda Accord and it makes the sound of a pheasant coming in to land … after you’ve missed it. It’s almost silent.
There’s a similar sensation of quality on the inside. This is a car that doesn’t feel assembled. It feels as though it’s been hewn from one solid block of steel. It’s a Barbour jacket. It’s a Scottish mountain. Push a button in a Honda and it feels as if you could push it a billion times and it would still be working. It’s the exact opposite, then, of an iPhone.
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you can see from the critic review.
#4392
Ex-OEM King
how do you know better turn radius with 18 inch rims of Subaru Outback at higher speed motions? VW longer range at higher speed?. VW will fall apart if it is put at same conditions. come back once your VW breaks 250K miles and can do instant runs at cold start with AC on still don't consume iota of Oil at 15000 miles.
just to give you idea. you can easily put 19.5 Gallon into TSX. at 1/4 of Tank it travel 215 miles at just over 2 hours under airconditioning.
just to give you idea. you can easily put 19.5 Gallon into TSX. at 1/4 of Tank it travel 215 miles at just over 2 hours under airconditioning.
Per your comment, you were doing 107mph for two hours? I find that incredibly hard to believe.
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#4393
Moderator
Right, but what manufacturers rate their turning radius at high speed. Clearly the TSX excels at this. [/redtext]
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#4394
https://www.autonews.com/article/201...-burning-claim
American Honda settles class-action suit over oil-burning claim
Design caused spark plug failures, suit says
October 22, 2013
DETROIT -- American Honda Motor Co. has agreed to settle a class-action lawsuit over claims that it manufactured 1,593,755 defective vehicles that excessively burn oil and require frequent spark plug replacements.
The settlement concerns all U.S. purchasers and lessees of 2008-12 Accord, 2008-13 Odyssey, 2009-13 Pilot, 2010-11 Accord Crosstour and 2012 Crosstour vehicles equipped with six-cylinder engines that have variable cylinder management. Accord vehicles with four-cylinder engines are excluded from the settlement.
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Design caused spark plug failures, suit says
October 22, 2013
DETROIT -- American Honda Motor Co. has agreed to settle a class-action lawsuit over claims that it manufactured 1,593,755 defective vehicles that excessively burn oil and require frequent spark plug replacements.
The settlement concerns all U.S. purchasers and lessees of 2008-12 Accord, 2008-13 Odyssey, 2009-13 Pilot, 2010-11 Accord Crosstour and 2012 Crosstour vehicles equipped with six-cylinder engines that have variable cylinder management. Accord vehicles with four-cylinder engines are excluded from the settlement.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Acura/comme...l_consumption/
Acura 3.7 L V6 Excessive Engine Oil Consumption leads to Extended Warranty
PSA: Today i received a letter from Acura that current owners of 2010-13 MDX, 2011-12 RL, 2009-14 TL, and 2010-13 ZDX will have their 6 yr/70k mile warranty extended to 8yr/125k for the power train warranty. This is to address excessive oil consumption that is caused my the oil control rings becoming clogged and preventing oil from returning to the crank case. Furthermore, regardless of mileage or time in service (age of vehicle covered) from now until Sept 1, 2019 Acura will cover the vehicle for this to ensure client satisfaction and confidence.
PSA: Today i received a letter from Acura that current owners of 2010-13 MDX, 2011-12 RL, 2009-14 TL, and 2010-13 ZDX will have their 6 yr/70k mile warranty extended to 8yr/125k for the power train warranty. This is to address excessive oil consumption that is caused my the oil control rings becoming clogged and preventing oil from returning to the crank case. Furthermore, regardless of mileage or time in service (age of vehicle covered) from now until Sept 1, 2019 Acura will cover the vehicle for this to ensure client satisfaction and confidence.
#4395
Moderator
Didn't the Honda 1.5T have an oil issue as well? Contamination, maybe?
#4396
Ex-OEM King
https://www.consumerreports.org/car-...turbo-engines/
Honda is extending the warranties on more than 1 million CR-V SUVs and Civic cars in the U.S. over complaints that gasoline can seep into the engine oil. That problem has raised concerns about the durability of the 1.5-liter turbo engine and about the vehicles potentially stalling, especially in cold weather.
#4397
Yup, there was a recall on that one too I think.
https://www.consumerreports.org/car-...turbo-engines/
https://www.consumerreports.org/car-...turbo-engines/
#4398
Team Owner
OK... show me that you can put 19.5 gallon into TSX.... obviously without the gas spilling back to your face
and what do you mean by better turn radius at HIGHER speed motion? Like you wanna bust an U at 30mph... Most cars with more gears/more torque/ will average high MPG at higher speed and i dont think TSX is part of those cars.. because Logic...
and what do you mean by better turn radius at HIGHER speed motion? Like you wanna bust an U at 30mph... Most cars with more gears/more torque/ will average high MPG at higher speed and i dont think TSX is part of those cars.. because Logic...
how do you know better turn radius with 18 inch rims of Subaru Outback at higher speed motions? VW longer range at higher speed?. VW will fall apart if it is put at same conditions. come back once your VW breaks 250K miles and can do instant runs at cold start with AC on still don't consume iota of Oil at 15000 miles.
just to give you idea. you can easily put 19.5 Gallon into TSX. at 1/4 of Tank it travel 215 miles at just over 2 hours under airconditioning.
its the other friends and coworkers that want to park next to it as Acura TSX is still shinning new. its a high quality product.
TSX aerodynamics were so advanced 18 year ago with 1G Diesel. 2G is atleast 15% better in aerodynamics and far quieter ,refined . 64 dba at over 80 mph with Pirrelli tires.
I had both 1G and 2G so I know what I am talking about. I have owned and tested cars in Europe and other countries.
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just to give you idea. you can easily put 19.5 Gallon into TSX. at 1/4 of Tank it travel 215 miles at just over 2 hours under airconditioning.
its the other friends and coworkers that want to park next to it as Acura TSX is still shinning new. its a high quality product.
TSX aerodynamics were so advanced 18 year ago with 1G Diesel. 2G is atleast 15% better in aerodynamics and far quieter ,refined . 64 dba at over 80 mph with Pirrelli tires.
I had both 1G and 2G so I know what I am talking about. I have owned and tested cars in Europe and other countries.
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#4399
#4400
OK... show me that you can put 19.5 gallon into TSX.... obviously without the gas spilling back to your face
and what do you mean by better turn radius at HIGHER speed motion? Like you wanna bust an U at 30mph... Most cars with more gears/more torque/ will average high MPG at higher speed and i dont think TSX is part of those cars.. because Logic...
and what do you mean by better turn radius at HIGHER speed motion? Like you wanna bust an U at 30mph... Most cars with more gears/more torque/ will average high MPG at higher speed and i dont think TSX is part of those cars.. because Logic...
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...erm-road-test/
Overall fuel economy of 26 mpg fell toward the high end of the EPA’s 20-mpg city and 28-mpg highway ratings, and there were road trips during which staffers achieved as high as 32 mpg.
Overall fuel economy of 26 mpg fell toward the high end of the EPA’s 20-mpg city and 28-mpg highway ratings, and there were road trips during which staffers achieved as high as 32 mpg.
2012 BMW 328 manual transmission that has turbo with a lot more torque got 27mpg and most of time on lighter sport rims and summer performance tires.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...rap-up-review/
2012 BMW 328i Sport Line Manual
Over the full 40,000-mile haul, we averaged 27 mpg, beating our
2012 BMW 328i Sport Line Manual
Over the full 40,000-mile haul, we averaged 27 mpg, beating our
2006 BMW 330i long-term tester’s run through the 40,000-mile gantlet by two mpg. (That E90 3-series was powered by BMW’s lovely 255-hp naturally aspirated 3.0-liter six.)
V6 TSX have active sound control.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a12924/4320512/
But the smartest standard system on the TSX V6 is the new Active Sound Control, which decreases engine boom noise below 2000 rpm as well as high frequency noise during engine cruising. The system uses mics strategically placed in the cabin to determine the sound level and then decides when and how much noise-cancelling sound (inaudible to the driver) it should pump through the sound system to mute the bad stuff. According to John Watts, Acura's Sr. Manager of Product Planning, the system not only effectively quiets the cabin but it does so with less weight gain to the car than adding additional sound deadening material would.
But the smartest standard system on the TSX V6 is the new Active Sound Control, which decreases engine boom noise below 2000 rpm as well as high frequency noise during engine cruising. The system uses mics strategically placed in the cabin to determine the sound level and then decides when and how much noise-cancelling sound (inaudible to the driver) it should pump through the sound system to mute the bad stuff. According to John Watts, Acura's Sr. Manager of Product Planning, the system not only effectively quiets the cabin but it does so with less weight gain to the car than adding additional sound deadening material would.