2004 TL Octane?
10-07-2003, 10:25 AM
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2004 TL Octane?
I did a search on octane so I know it gets kicked around a lot, but for the lucky few that already have their 2004 TL's, what octane are you using?
I'll be getting mine in a few weeks and I am hoping that the 87 will work just fine.
I'll be getting mine in a few weeks and I am hoping that the 87 will work just fine.
10-07-2003, 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by Count Blah
Come on.. don't spend $33k+ on a car and then refuse to give it the gas it needs. Put in 91 or better.
Come on.. don't spend $33k+ on a car and then refuse to give it the gas it needs. Put in 91 or better.
10-07-2003, 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by Count Blah
Come on.. don't spend $33k+ on a car and then refuse to give it the gas it needs. Put in 91 or better.
Come on.. don't spend $33k+ on a car and then refuse to give it the gas it needs. Put in 91 or better.
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10-07-2003, 11:33 AM
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We were discussing the no 91 octane this morning at work. We figured you just alternate between 89 and 93 everytime you get down to half a tank. I hate having to stop for gas, so that won't work for me.
I just filled my '03 TL-S last night for the first time and used 93. I'm planning on trying 89 my next tank. I don't plan on any serious racing anytime soon, so if it runs fine, I'll stick with that.
I just filled my '03 TL-S last night for the first time and used 93. I'm planning on trying 89 my next tank. I don't plan on any serious racing anytime soon, so if it runs fine, I'll stick with that.
10-07-2003, 11:51 AM
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While we are at it why don't we put skinny tires on the TL. That will give lower rolling resistance, and hence better fuel economy and lower overall cost of operation. 
I can't see why anyone would buy a TL or other performance oriented car and not give it the fuel with the octane it was designed for. Along the same lines, I'd also stick to "major brand" fuels.
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I can't see why anyone would buy a TL or other performance oriented car and not give it the fuel with the octane it was designed for. Along the same lines, I'd also stick to "major brand" fuels.
-r
10-07-2003, 11:54 AM
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Not only will you lose some performance with the cheaper gas, but your MPG will suffer as well.
Had a debate/argument once with a co-worker. He swore by 87 octane gas just because it was cheaper. He commuted 45 miles/day each way. I convinced him to try a tank of premium. He came back and told me that he was getting 10% better mileage while only paying like 6-8% more for the gas. He was thrilled that he didn't have to fill up as often and was finally convinced that he got more for his money by buying premium. At the very least, it's a break-even situation IMO. The numbers above are guesstimates so please don't quote my numbers. Just rough guesses by someone suffering from short-term memory.
Anyhow to me, it's a no-brainer. Especially with a 11 to 1 compresion ratio. Use Premium in your TL's.
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Had a debate/argument once with a co-worker. He swore by 87 octane gas just because it was cheaper. He commuted 45 miles/day each way. I convinced him to try a tank of premium. He came back and told me that he was getting 10% better mileage while only paying like 6-8% more for the gas. He was thrilled that he didn't have to fill up as often and was finally convinced that he got more for his money by buying premium. At the very least, it's a break-even situation IMO. The numbers above are guesstimates so please don't quote my numbers. Just rough guesses by someone suffering from short-term memory.
Anyhow to me, it's a no-brainer. Especially with a 11 to 1 compresion ratio. Use Premium in your TL's.
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10-07-2003, 11:59 AM
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Mobil or Shell
I'm not sure what other quality companies you guys used or heard of, but when a professor in my university who did quiet a bit of research for petroleum institute was asked the same question he said that Shell and Mobil have about the same quality of fuel and purification methods. And they are above the rest of the crowd meaning AM/PM, Arko, Exxon(owened by Mobil), Texaco, Cheveron and so on and so fourth.
I have never done any research for petroleum institute, but have heard that the best fuels are those of Shell and Mobil as well. Plus we all know you pay for what you get.
I have never done any research for petroleum institute, but have heard that the best fuels are those of Shell and Mobil as well. Plus we all know you pay for what you get.
10-07-2003, 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by AcUrAgUy
Not only will you lose some performance with the cheaper gas, but your MPG will suffer as well.
Had a debate/argument once with a co-worker. He swore by 87 octane gas just because it was cheaper. He commuted 45 miles/day each way. I convinced him to try a tank of premium. He came back and told me that he was getting 10% better mileage while only paying like 6-8% more for the gas. He was thrilled that he didn't have to fill up as often and was finally convinced that he got more for his money by buying premium. At the very least, it's a break-even situation IMO. The numbers above are guesstimates so please don't quote my numbers. Just rough guesses by someone suffering from short-term memory.
Anyhow to me, it's a no-brainer. Especially with a 11 to 1 compresion ratio. Use Premium in your TL's.
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Not only will you lose some performance with the cheaper gas, but your MPG will suffer as well.
Had a debate/argument once with a co-worker. He swore by 87 octane gas just because it was cheaper. He commuted 45 miles/day each way. I convinced him to try a tank of premium. He came back and told me that he was getting 10% better mileage while only paying like 6-8% more for the gas. He was thrilled that he didn't have to fill up as often and was finally convinced that he got more for his money by buying premium. At the very least, it's a break-even situation IMO. The numbers above are guesstimates so please don't quote my numbers. Just rough guesses by someone suffering from short-term memory.
Anyhow to me, it's a no-brainer. Especially with a 11 to 1 compresion ratio. Use Premium in your TL's.
Later
10-07-2003, 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by acura_driver
While we are at it why don't we put skinny tires on the TL. That will give lower rolling resistance, and hence better fuel economy and lower overall cost of operation.
I can't see why anyone would buy a TL or other performance oriented car and not give it the fuel with the octane it was designed for. Along the same lines, I'd also stick to "major brand" fuels.-r
While we are at it why don't we put skinny tires on the TL. That will give lower rolling resistance, and hence better fuel economy and lower overall cost of operation.
I can't see why anyone would buy a TL or other performance oriented car and not give it the fuel with the octane it was designed for. Along the same lines, I'd also stick to "major brand" fuels.-r
Again, I'm not a performance oriented person so I very well could be missing the mark on the "actual" significance of using lower octane fuel. Open to correction...
10-07-2003, 08:20 PM
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I'm a first-time "post"-er so be gentle. I'm in the same boat as NSWAGAR. My TL is to arrive early November, and my main reason for purchase is luxury/features. Given that performance means next to nothing to me, is there any negative engine issues if a lower octane is selected? I thought I saw on a different thread awhile back, that the general consensus was that a lower octane would not have any adverse affects on the engine. Can someone please confirm?
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10-08-2003, 03:31 PM
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I belive the key to this thread is the "knock sensor". In the new accord this sensor can advance and retard ignition timing making it possible to use lower as well as higher octane fuels. This is why people think that on 91 or 93 new accord has 250 hp and 10 more pounds of torque.
In regard to TL, its knock may or may not be able to advance ignition timing, if it does then we'll see some difference when going to 100 octane fuel.
In regard to using lower octane fuel on TL, you will lose HP & torque, not much, but you will. Based on accord specs i'd say about 10 HP and 10 pounds of torque when switching to 87/89 octane fuel. Is it worth it? I'd not say it is, saving a dollar or two and sacrificing fuel economy as well as performance is not my trend....
In regard to TL, its knock may or may not be able to advance ignition timing, if it does then we'll see some difference when going to 100 octane fuel.
In regard to using lower octane fuel on TL, you will lose HP & torque, not much, but you will. Based on accord specs i'd say about 10 HP and 10 pounds of torque when switching to 87/89 octane fuel. Is it worth it? I'd not say it is, saving a dollar or two and sacrificing fuel economy as well as performance is not my trend....
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