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Old 12-06-2010, 09:50 PM
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Need suggestions on a In-Dash

I have a 99' TL and im looking for an in dash to replace the Original Stereo.
I want it to have the option of:
  • Navigation
  • Bluetooth
  • Able to play CD-R/RW DVD-R / MP3
  • Have ipod Plug in
  • Able to plug in 2 TV's
  • good Resolution
Also dont want to break bank so i have about $400

Any suggestions? ive been looking at some stuff on amazon but havent found found any helpful reviews
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You can't get that for this.

If you ditch the nav, you can get the rest in the Pioneer AVH-P3200 or 4200 series. the 3200BT would be probably the best.


I don't know how the heck $400 would do everything you want. You could possibly do nav w/ your phone on the cheap. The 3200-4200's have an option for a nav box in the future.
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Looks like this
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Originally Posted by fourthmeal
You can't get that for this.

If you ditch the nav, you can get the rest in the Pioneer AVH-P3200 or 4200 series. the 3200BT would be probably the best.


I don't know how the heck $400 would do everything you want. You could possibly do nav w/ your phone on the cheap. The 3200-4200's have an option for a nav box in the future.
This. Cut priorities, or add more money...
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Yea he can get an AVH-P3200 and buy a Garmin but that will prob still put you over the 400

you can get the cheap decks I think like Dual or something

but nothing like Pioneer for 400
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Lots of chineese or Hong Kong stuff on ebay. Good luck getting any support or warranty coverage-
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Most phones will do a damn good job doing nav.
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i think i wrote it wrong but i meant to say i wanted to have the option of adding navi or bluetooth. its mostly going to be use for my ipod or dvds.
i looked at the Pioneer AVH P32 but i couldnt decide on it. Ive heard it nots worth it from some people and then ive heard its really good. any info on it?
also i looked at the Kenwood DDX-516
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IMO, the best (and only) decks to use with an Ipod is Alpine. I've had both Pioneer's and Kenwood's break on me (albeit not double din's) so I won't go back to them again. The only thing is, I've heard the nav on Alpine DD's suck (no personal experience though, unfortunately).
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well... I like mine but that's all I can say. What's not worth it? ~$400 for a deck that outputs 3 relatively high voltage rca pre-outs, has an 8 band graphic EQ, a large touch screen, has a great picture, can change colors to suit the car or your mood, works great with ipod/usb, can view pics, and can connect to future technology?

The only double-din deck I would buy beside this one would be one that has an active-crossover and DSP built in. since that doesn't exist in double-din, ... I went with this.
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well... I like mine but that's all I can say. What's not worth it? ~$400 for a deck that outputs 3 relatively high voltage rca pre-outs, has an 8 band graphic EQ, a large touch screen, has a great picture, can change colors to suit the car or your mood, works great with ipod/usb, can view pics, and can connect to future technology?

The only double-din deck I would buy beside this one would be one that has an active-crossover and DSP built in. since that doesn't exist in double-din, ... I went with this.
If only.. Only one that gets close (as close as a separate signal processor can get anyway) would be something like the W505 and 701 combo from Alpine. I'd love something like that but the 701 is nice and discontinued, which sucks. At that point though, you're better off going with a DD that you like and figuring out the processing completely separately.
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Originally Posted by fourthmeal
Looks like this
Hi fourthmeal,

Any pro and cons going between this and the 4100 or 4200? My OEM broke and I want touch screen. With simple but efficient GUI.
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well the 4200 is bigger but I like actual buttons like the ones on the left, plus the cost issue.

I don't have experience with the 4100 so I can't comment.

I picked this one because the ipod link is on the front, not the back. historically, sometimes the usb connection ceases to work until you take it out and plug it back in. I don't want the horror of trying to deal with that with the plug in the back. I also like the ability to swap from ipod to usb drives in a second.
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thanks for the input, ima go with the Pioneer P3200dvd! thanks guys!
ill let you know how it goes when i get it.
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anyone on here have experience with the pioneer shallow serious subs? i was looking to replace the 8 inch in the back with one of these 8 inch or 10 inch subs plus adding a 12 inch sub in trunk later on.
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I wouldnt even mess with the 8" sub in the back nothing is going to be good like an enclousre.

I bought a kicker shallow mount and turned around and sold it because I didnt want to deal with it
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You can't successfully combine the IB sub in the back with a trunk sub, for many reasons some of which are complex.

Bottom line, grab a decent 8-12" sub, probably build or buy a well made box (sealed would be easy, properly tuned-ported is also a definite option), and get a modest amp.

Its doesn't take much to get great sound from this car. Processing/active crossover work helps a lot, and tweeters in the A-pillar raised the soundstage to a level that I consider enjoyable.


The complexities can be explained in depth, if its your thing.
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I need to practice so I can make my own box because these boxes I'm buying aren't cutting it LOL
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do them in googlesketch, and get your shapes right.

Don't try to build a box without a relatively straight running table saw!

FYI, a 13x13x31 box fits quite well in the trunk, I've found. Feel free to peruse my installation pics.
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Ill check ur pics out
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Originally Posted by fourthmeal
well the 4200 is bigger but I like actual buttons like the ones on the left, plus the cost issue.

I don't have experience with the 4100 so I can't comment.

I picked this one because the ipod link is on the front, not the back. historically, sometimes the usb connection ceases to work until you take it out and plug it back in. I don't want the horror of trying to deal with that with the plug in the back. I also like the ability to swap from ipod to usb drives in a second.
By the way...
  1. Did you have to buy any harness in order to keep the buttons on steering wheel working?
  2. Did HU fit perfect or did you need to buy additional mountings and plate to get it in?
  3. I need to use the MPSS-4 Audio Source Switcher in order to keep OEM Navigation voice right?
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Originally Posted by BiggyMcWang
By the way...
  1. Did you have to buy any harness in order to keep the buttons on steering wheel working?
  2. Did HU fit perfect or did you need to buy additional mountings and plate to get it in?
  3. I need to use the MPSS-4 Audio Source Switcher in order to keep OEM Navigation voice right?

1. I skipped the controls, being that the unit is so close to my fingertips I haven't missed them.

2. Perfect fit with the kit.

3. No nav on my car, it was easy.
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just get a Pac-Swi to keep the controls in the wheel
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just get a Pac-Swi to keep the controls in the wheel
Pac-swi = MPSS-4 Audio Source Switcher ??? Correct me if wrong thanks...
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Nm found it...


PAC SWI-PS Sony and Pioneer Steering Wheel Radio Control Interface
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Originally Posted by fourthmeal
You can't get that for this.

If you ditch the nav, you can get the rest in the Pioneer AVH-P3200 or 4200 series. the 3200BT would be probably the best.


I don't know how the heck $400 would do everything you want. You could possibly do nav w/ your phone on the cheap. The 3200-4200's have an option for a nav box in the future.
BTW search this stuff on amazon... I got everything for just under $430 but that's because I wanted harnesses for steering wheel controls and oem navi voice to work.

3200BT alone was $314 shipped with prime.
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I heard crutchfield was a great place to buy these things
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Crutchfield is a winner, if they carry the brand you want. I've purchased a couple times from them, and their CS is top notch. I wouldn't buy a woofer from them, but for deck's they're pretty comparably priced with most other places. Unfortunately, they don't carry most of the higher end stuff, but it's alright.
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