mattrush78

After taking a good look at the Helms Electrical Troubleshooting Manual for my 2001 Acura CL Type S. I realize that it has some major problems!!! I spend part of my day today mapping out the wires that go for the stock headunit to the stock amp and than to the stock speakers. After all that is hard work I typed up the correction for the stock amp corrector and thought I would post them to help anybody who is think thing about doing some stereo mods.

233. Stereo Amplifier
- Gray
- Right side of truck
- On right side wire harness


01 GRY/WHT (+RL) Speaker
02 BLU/YEL (-RL) Speaker
03 Empty
04 ORN (-FL) In-Line
05 GRN (-RL) In-Line
06 BRN (-FR) In-Line
07 BLK (-RR) In-line
08 Empty
09 YEL/WHT (Control switch B+) Remote Turn-on
10 Empty
11 WHT/YEL (Fuse 9 - Passenger's) Power
12 RED/GRN (-FR) Speaker
13 BRN/BLK (+FR) Speaker
14 BLU/GRN (-FL) Speaker
15 GRY/BLK (+FL) Speaker
16 Empty
17 WHT (+FL) In-Line
18 RED (+RL) In-Line
19 YEL (+FR) In-Line
20 BLU (+RR) In-Line
21 Empty
22 Empty
23 LT GRN (Shield)
24 BLK (G582) Ground
25 RED/YEL (-RR) Speaker
26 BRN/WHT (+RR) Speaker

I have talked to a couple of Acura Engineers about the problem in the ETM. I'm hoping that they can correct the miss print of the ETM and give us people of bought the old one a new copy.

Matthew

SilverKnight

Are sure the speaker wires are correct? Normally, darker/duller colors indicate negative wires. And the HELM listed the speaker wires in the same fashion. What make you think the speaker wires are reversed?

mattrush78

I tested all the speaker leads. Everything that is marked positive is negative and everything that is negative is positive. I didn't believe it myself at first so I retested all the link a couple of time. The only major thing this affects is the phase of the stock speakers.

mattrush78

Just to make sure what I was posting is 100% correct I did some more testing. I took one of the stock speakers cut two short piece of wires and got a 1.5v C battery. I connected one of the wires to speaker post one and one of the wires to speaker post two. Putting the positive side of the battery on speaker post two and the negative side on speaker post one the speaker cone moves in. Which means that post two is negative and post one is positive. Which means the positive and negative connection in the helms manuals for the stock speakers are versed.

NSXNEXT

iTrader: (2)

Not sure if it is related, but on my 99TL, Ron (StreetEffectz) and I both concluded that someone fucked up at the plant.

My rear speaker wires were completely reversed. What was supposed to be the left side colors, was actually the rightr side and vice versa.

When I attempted to do my rear doors, I was pulling my hair out trying to find the right color wires, Turned out they were on the wrong side of the car.