can i hook up subs to the stock 6disc?

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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 01:12 PM
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can i hook up subs to the stock 6disc?

hi everyone, im new in here. i have a 2001, white CL-S w/nav. i just got it 2 weeks ago and i love it. i was just wondering if anyone has hooked up subs to the stock 6 disc changer? i dont want to buy a new head unit, i just want to hook up the subs that i already have(they were in my old expedition) i have four 12 inch rockford fosgate w/2 amps.....i only plan on putting two of them in my CL-S though. i dont want to even start if im not going to have rca jacks for the rca cables and somewhere for the remote wire to go....does anyone have any info??? it will be much appreciated!!!ohhh....also...is there anything you can do to your nav. ???? video wise???
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jaxbchCL-S
hi everyone, im new in here. i have a 2001, white CL-S w/nav. i just got it 2 weeks ago and i love it. i was just wondering if anyone has hooked up subs to the stock 6 disc changer? i dont want to buy a new head unit, i just want to hook up the subs that i already have(they were in my old expedition) i have four 12 inch rockford fosgate w/2 amps.....i only plan on putting two of them in my CL-S though. i dont want to even start if im not going to have rca jacks for the rca cables and somewhere for the remote wire to go....does anyone have any info??? it will be much appreciated!!!ohhh....also...is there anything you can do to your nav. ???? video wise???
you can. you can get the signal (sound) from the speaker outs from the bose amp. if you plan to use rcas to connect to your subs' amp, you will need to solder rcas to the speaker out. in my original set up, my amp had speaker inputs so i just tapped into the rear speaker wires to get the signal. you can also get the remote wire from the bose amp.
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 09:57 PM
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you can get a high level in/low level output connector from any stereo shop. Thats the best way to do it. This is obviously not the greatest way to have subs, because you will have no direct sub control but is really the only option.

Get a good one, invest into a $40-$50 one otherwise you will get engine noise. Get a Peripheral sven2. What it does is you tap the two rear speaker signals both negative and positive speaker wires and it uses that signal to produce signals to come out of the other end of this converter which is rca output, then you can plug that directly into the amplifier. As well, you will need to find a remote wire off the deck, ignition wire will do fine, that will turn the amp on and off when the car or deck is on as well. Otherwise drainage to the amp will happen.

But as well, some 2 channel amps come with built in High level input(high level input is speaker level) low level input is RCA signal.
BUT These built into the amps usually don't work very well. I have had bad experience with them, with engine whining and distortion and constant buzzing noise.

Even the good amps with high level input are usually crap. So thats why I advise people strongly to buy an external one, AND A GOOD ONE. I've had problems with Alpine ones, Kicker, Rockford. I've spoke to all those reps and they said, well its a cost effective issue, they don't really want consumers using it. Which is entirely stupid

A PERIPHERAL brand is a good one to use.

Keep in mind, doing it this way you have no control of your sub. Even if you buy an amp that has a Sub Boost level adjuster control, that doesn't control your sub entirely, it just adds more bass, but truely uncontrollable. So the louder you turn on the volume the louder the sub, if you turn down the volume, you may not even hear the sub at all. It fluctuates with the volume control.
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 11:42 PM
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 10:14 AM
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thanks for all the help everyone. in your honest opinion do you think it is worth it to even do all this with not much control of the subs?? or do you think i should just invest in another head unit so the sound is much better quality(w/no control of subs and all-not much quality-right?)?? if so, has anyone done the installation themselves before?? i normally do my own audio work but im sketchy w/my CL-S because its so freakin' nice--is there any issues i will run in to taking out the stock 6 disc cd player?? anything i should know?? once again-thanks everyone-
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 12:18 PM
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it will sound good. i had my orion amp and sub put into my 01 CL at circuit city, think the kit was like $50 bucks, sounds great. don't worry.
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jaxbchCL-S
thanks for all the help everyone. in your honest opinion do you think it is worth it to even do all this with not much control of the subs?? or do you think i should just invest in another head unit so the sound is much better quality(w/no control of subs and all-not much quality-right?)?? if so, has anyone done the installation themselves before?? i normally do my own audio work but im sketchy w/my CL-S because its so freakin' nice--is there any issues i will run in to taking out the stock 6 disc cd player?? anything i should know?? once again-thanks everyone-
putting 2 12 inch subs with the stock set up may over power the sound of the system. your bass may be too overpowering...specially with the quality of sound the bose speakers put out. if i were you, i would add the subs (even just 1 sub for now) just to add bass. then save up to change the hu, the speakers, add a new 4 channel aftermarket amp and the pair of subs you have. adding jsut the subs now will improve the over all sound by adding bass. but you can't imagine how much better a complete aftermarket sound system sounds inside the cl.
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 02:46 PM
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putting 2 12 inch subs with the stock set up may over power the sound of the system. your bass may be too overpowering...specially with the quality of sound the bose speakers put out. if i were you, i would add the subs (even just 1 sub for now) just to add bass. then save up to change the hu, the speakers, add a new 4 channel aftermarket amp and the pair of subs you have. adding jsut the subs now will improve the over all sound by adding bass. but you can't imagine how much better a complete aftermarket sound system sounds inside the cl.

your right..i dont want to be that ghetto, loud ass, rattling sound, i want it to sound nice-but loud...thanks for the advice, maybe i will just hook up one 12 for now.
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Rock2534
it will sound good. i had my orion amp and sub put into my 01 CL at circuit city, think the kit was like $50 bucks, sounds great. don't worry.

what size is the sub?? and how much does it handle? how many watts is the amp?? is it at full power??
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 03:07 PM
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you will get bored of 1 sub quickly. but with that OEM headunit icy cl is right just go with 1 sub.
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jaxbchCL-S
what size is the sub?? and how much does it handle? how many watts is the amp?? is it at full power??
oh yeah i guess i should have included it. its a 10 in orion cobalt sub and amp. amp is 240 watts mono. the thing sounds really good. clean, deep bass, with no distortion. its not ghetto loud, so you won't hear it down the street. but inside and right outside the car it bumps. amp is almost all the way turned up, not quite.
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 08:35 AM
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oh yeah i guess i should have included it. its a 10 in orion cobalt sub and amp. amp is 240 watts mono. the thing sounds really good. clean, deep bass, with no distortion. its not ghetto loud, so you won't hear it down the street. but inside and right outside the car it bumps. amp is almost all the way turned up, not quite.

yea, i probably will just put one 12 in then......in the future i will probably switch to a different head unit though...
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 08:37 AM
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you will get bored of 1 sub quickly. but with that OEM headunit icy cl is right just go with 1 sub.

your probably right...
.............are you a red sox hater???............if so, me too..
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 11:14 AM
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you will get bored of 1 sub quickly. but with that OEM headunit icy cl is right just go with 1 sub.
I love the performance of the one sub box. I think as long as you get good stuff, you are good to go. I personally would get the one sub over two from now on.
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 02:06 PM
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how about with aftermarket speakers and amp along with 2 subs w/ 1600 watt amp with stock HU. what do u guys think? should the HU still be changed to get the best sound? could i control the bass if i completly by pass the amp?
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 02:42 PM
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I love the performance of the one sub box. I think as long as you get good stuff, you are good to go. I personally would get the one sub over two from now on.
Get one Alpine Type X speaker and a huge mono D class amp, and your sound would be unbelievable.

jax i hate teh redsox!!!!


01clsblackUOP, your first step should be get a new head unit, stock speakers arent that bad, especially if your head unit has a built in crossover. I couldnt begin to tell you the difference in sound from OEM headunit to any aftermarket. IF you do get a head unit just make sure it has Subwoofer (4 volt) preouts. Then you are set for anymore aftermarket additions without having to hook it all up ghetto...definately skip the stock speakers for now and get a head unit.
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 05:18 PM
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where can i get the dash install kit for my car?
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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 02:31 AM
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Anywehre that sells car audio stuff.
You're in the states so like Bestbuy?!
hahaha I dunno
I have them available if you like
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 11:56 PM
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I have my subs hooked up to my stock HU...at first the guy that installed it said that everytime I turn on the car that I will get a short feedback because the stock HU does not have the remote or something like that. But then the next day I went out and bought a switch so I have control of the subs on whether I can turn the subs on or off and do not get any feedback everytime I turn on the car.

I think you should get 10s because I have 2 12s audiobahn and 800 watt audiobahn and the amp are set at halfway and is still too much.
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 07:09 PM
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you can always patch into the remote wire of the stock amp... this is what i did to get around the surge.. there is a wire diagram on here somewhere that tells you what wire it is. if you can find it let me know and i will see if i still have it.... i am surprised the install guy couldnt do that.
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