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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 05:07 AM
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Big 3??

I've been wanting to do the big 3 ever since I realized that my 2.0 farad cap isnt enough for my 1000 watt amp at loud volumes (lights dim).

Just out of curiosity, How many of you guys have done the big 3 for your audio system? Has it made a noticeable difference? Please provide pics if you have. Just want to get an idea on how I should run the wire from the alt to the batt. Thanks
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 11:30 AM
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i have.. running 1600ish rms to the subs, 500ish rms to the speakers.. with just a bettery upgrade and big 3, no dimming

cap is a waste of money imo..
as for running the wire, just run it however you can that will make it look stealthy (thats if u're anal about seeing the wire), and away from anything that may become hot
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by wong05tsx
i have.. running 1600ish rms to the subs, 500ish rms to the speakers.. with just a bettery upgrade and big 3, no dimming

cap is a waste of money imo..
as for running the wire, just run it however you can that will make it look stealthy (thats if u're anal about seeing the wire), and away from anything that may become hot
WOW!!

I could not have said it better myself.
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 03:32 PM
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What kind of battery are you running?
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 05:33 PM
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Whats the big 3? I'm guessing battery, alternator, ???

My boss also told me something people forget is to upgrade the ground wire going from the negative battery post to the chassis. Is that going to help at all? I thought it would since usually that wire is usually pretty small and looks corroded like hell.
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 01:09 AM
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Battery negative to chassis
Alternator Positive to Battery Positive
Alternator ground to chassis

Big 3

and I'm running a Optima Yellow top D51 (Biggest yellow top that can fit a tsx)
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 08:52 AM
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If u already have the yellow top, def do the big 3. I plan to do mine this winter, I have all the wires sitting in my garage
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 12:22 PM
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how many feet of say 1 guage wiring would you need for the big 3?
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 01:07 PM
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depends how big your engine bay is, and how you want to run your wires?

Take some string and run it, cut it, measure it, and add an extra foot or so, since the wire isn't as flexible as the string.

You might want to consider kicker hyperflex and/or knukonceptz kollosus fleks for your choice of wiring.. High strand count + flexible + looks good
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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1 guage is a bit ridiculous, you don't need more than 4 guage, I used a measuring tape to figure out how long I needed, and bought extra
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 03:38 PM
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I use to have 1/0 wire in my car, it was about the most grossly unneeded thing ever. But it was cool to see.
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 04:10 PM
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Stock wire is like a 6ga.. smaller than 4ga but bigger than 8ga.

If you're gonna do the big 3, do it with at least 2ga or 0ga; sinec you're going through the trouble with doing it anyway..

just my
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 09:52 PM
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my stock wires are like 8 guage
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 02:25 PM
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What amp are you running and how efficient is it? I didn't think that the amp draw off 1000 watts is enough to dim lights..
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 11:24 PM
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Im running an alpine MRP-M1000 and MRP-350. It only dims if I have it at loud vols and it dims even more if I have the A/C on but its not super bad. The the 1000 watt amp should be efficient, its a mono class D amp.
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by wong05tsx
Battery negative to chassis
Alternator Positive to Battery Positive
Alternator ground to chassis

Big 3

and I'm running a Optima Yellow top D51 (Biggest yellow top that can fit a tsx)
sorry I'm learning so bear with me, do you add another ground from the batt. - to the chassis, or upgrade to a thicker gauge than stock? Then upgrade the alt + to batt + wire? and then add another ground for the alternator? just wanna be sure, thanks
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 11:07 AM
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Don't mess with the stock stuff. Just add to the stock wiring.

+1 on the Kicker Hyperflex. They make the best 1/0 wire I've ever seen, period.
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 11:06 PM
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^+1

Electricity takes the path of least resistance; doesn't hurt to have more than 1 route for it
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Old Oct 12, 2008 | 03:49 PM
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i looked at my car (02tl-s) and i saw that one wire from the alternator goes to what looks be like to the engine and it grounds their and the other wire goes to a fuse box, anyone got any pics on how hey did they alternator set up?
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by I Go To Costco
sorry I'm learning so bear with me, do you add another ground from the batt. - to the chassis, or upgrade to a thicker gauge than stock? Then upgrade the alt + to batt + wire? and then add another ground for the alternator? just wanna be sure, thanks
anyone? google turns up results that are a bit vague for me, sorry.
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 09:56 PM
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Battery negative to chassis
Alternator Positive to Battery Positive
Alternator ground to chassis

i ordered 10feet of 1/0 wire should be enough.
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 11:11 PM
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Oh yeah, sorry I should've mentioned this earlier, get a fuse holder unless you want to risk shorting out the wire and potentially causing ur car to burn down!

Amp size to the wire
0ga - 300amp
4ga - 150amp
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by wong05tsx
Oh yeah, sorry I should've mentioned this earlier, get a fuse holder unless you want to risk shorting out the wire and potentially causing ur car to burn down!

Amp size to the wire
0ga - 300amp
4ga - 150amp
Although this is not necessary it is recommended. A fuse is only needed for the ALT to (+) Batt. in the case that the wire becomes loose and falls off.
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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what about a 1ga?
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 08:58 PM
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this is what i did, i had some 0ga lying around, so i used that as well as some 4ga.

0ga from alt to chasis
0ga from battery to eng block
0ga from battery to chasis
4ga from throttle to battery
4ga from manifold to battery

i went a bit over board, but i dont have dimming and i did notice my car to have better starting up, better throttle response, and all around better elctrical flow.

if you still have dimming than unfortunately you may have to up the alt. or deal with it.
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 02AEMCL
this is what i did, i had some 0ga lying around, so i used that as well as some 4ga.

0ga from alt to chasis
0ga from battery to eng block
0ga from battery to chasis
4ga from throttle to battery
4ga from manifold to battery

i went a bit over board, but i dont have dimming and i did notice my car to have better starting up, better throttle response, and all around better elctrical flow.

if you still have dimming than unfortunately you may have to up the alt. or deal with it.
u got any pics of the throttle to the batter?
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 07:40 PM
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rajca i have to find a pic for you. i know that i have one.
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 04:55 AM
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i made a diy for the big 3 set up

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...1#post10112212
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