Why no inventory?
It'd have to be one heck of a warranty! These sure seem rare up here. Only 1 for sale 2021 or newer in my province, it's a 2022 and has 65,000km (40k miles) and they want $69k CAD for it. Powaaaaaa...
The Acura dealership near me has 6 ZDX. I am thinking of swing by to look at them later today or Sunday and see how they are.
https://www.sunnysideacura.com/new-v...%5D%5B0%5D=New
https://www.sunnysideacura.com/new-v...%5D%5B0%5D=New
Some '24 TLX Type S starting to show up around my area in so.cal. 3 of the 4 dealerships near me have 'em (surprisingly, none are Urban Gray). 2 Platinum Whites, 1 Tiger Eye Pearl, and 1 Apex Blue Pearl.
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It feels like there is a bit of movement on the inventory front. DFW had just a handful of A-Specs available. Now the Acura site is showing several 'in transit'.
Oddly the ones that are in stock really aren't moving. I've had my eye on a blue one at the dealership closest to my house. It's gorgeous, but I'd want a different color interior. It's been there for a couple of months now along with every single Tech they got a couple of months ago. It just seems like the TLX is a very slow mover.
Oddly the ones that are in stock really aren't moving. I've had my eye on a blue one at the dealership closest to my house. It's gorgeous, but I'd want a different color interior. It's been there for a couple of months now along with every single Tech they got a couple of months ago. It just seems like the TLX is a very slow mover.
According to a press statement made by Honda to carscoops.com:
A Honda spokesperson reached out to [carscoops.com] to address the decline in sales of the Acura TLX, Integra, and Honda Accord, all built at the Marysville Auto Plant in Ohio. “These declines are not due to demand plummeting, but were expected impacts due to the significant reconfiguration of our Marysville Auto Plant where they are all built. We’re combining lines 1 & 2 into one line,” the spokesperson explained.
https://www.carscoops.com/2024/06/ac...ges-76-in-may/
A Honda spokesperson reached out to [carscoops.com] to address the decline in sales of the Acura TLX, Integra, and Honda Accord, all built at the Marysville Auto Plant in Ohio. “These declines are not due to demand plummeting, but were expected impacts due to the significant reconfiguration of our Marysville Auto Plant where they are all built. We’re combining lines 1 & 2 into one line,” the spokesperson explained.
https://www.carscoops.com/2024/06/ac...ges-76-in-may/
According to a press statement made by Honda to carscoops.com:
A Honda spokesperson reached out to [carscoops.com] to address the decline in sales of the Acura TLX, Integra, and Honda Accord, all built at the Marysville Auto Plant in Ohio. “These declines are not due to demand plummeting, but were expected impacts due to the significant reconfiguration of our Marysville Auto Plant where they are all built. We’re combining lines 1 & 2 into one line,” the spokesperson explained.
https://www.carscoops.com/2024/06/ac...ges-76-in-may/
A Honda spokesperson reached out to [carscoops.com] to address the decline in sales of the Acura TLX, Integra, and Honda Accord, all built at the Marysville Auto Plant in Ohio. “These declines are not due to demand plummeting, but were expected impacts due to the significant reconfiguration of our Marysville Auto Plant where they are all built. We’re combining lines 1 & 2 into one line,” the spokesperson explained.
https://www.carscoops.com/2024/06/ac...ges-76-in-may/
"Honda’s Marysville plant begins EV conversion"
https://www.limaohio.com/top-stories...ev-conversion/
https://www.limaohio.com/top-stories...ev-conversion/
"Honda’s Marysville plant begins EV conversion"
https://www.limaohio.com/top-stories...ev-conversion/
https://www.limaohio.com/top-stories...ev-conversion/
Personally, I think Toyota is gonna kill it with the 25 Camry. It's much better looking than the Accord and at 47 mpg in the city, it's going to bring a lot of consumers into the hybrid market. If they aggressively expand their hybrids, Honda will have their hands full.
Interesting to see Honda go all in on electric and Toyota go all-in with hybrid. I still think there are enough EV cautious consumers to make it a limited market. Range anxiety is real. An EV makes sense if you're a garaged owner with a short manageable commute. But a large part of the market who parks outside is going to need a more robust charging network to consider it.
Personally, I think Toyota is gonna kill it with the 25 Camry. It's much better looking than the Accord and at 47 mpg in the city, it's going to bring a lot of consumers into the hybrid market. If they aggressively expand their hybrids, Honda will have their hands full.
Personally, I think Toyota is gonna kill it with the 25 Camry. It's much better looking than the Accord and at 47 mpg in the city, it's going to bring a lot of consumers into the hybrid market. If they aggressively expand their hybrids, Honda will have their hands full.
The new Accord looks like dog shit or UGLY Japanese Buick. There were a number of posters here that were hyping it during release and made comments how much better it is than TLX. I don't see any of them claiming that they bought one. Typical keyboard warriors... The new Camry will crush Accord in sales.
The new version has no personality at all. At best it's non-descript. At worst it's ugly. It's hard to tell what Honda was going for as it no longer bears any resemblance to the other cars in the lineup. Even more confusing as the new Civic was an evolution of the previous design and looks great. I can see why sales are declining. The comments in the video above are spot on.
As is his point that Camry sales are poised to pummel Accord. The Accord is already selling slower than the Civic or Camry, despite having way more inventory available. That's going to accelerate as Camry and Civic Hybrid production ramps up. Camry did it right. They took a good design, made it better and went all hybrid throughout the line. Honda made an uglier car and split a gas/hybrid lineup. That makes no sense as people who are getting base/lower money want to save money too. Who is going to choose a gas Accord or a hybrid Camry for the same price?
I'd hoped Acura would expand the hybrids to the TLX line like Lexus did for the 300 series. I hybrid TLX would be my dream car right now.
Instead they went for a lazy 'refresh' which was essentially just streamlining a bloated line, adding a bigger screen to a bad infotainment system, digital guages (standard with most models now) and a new grill.
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According to a press statement made by Honda to carscoops.com:
A Honda spokesperson reached out to [carscoops.com] to address the decline in sales of the Acura TLX, Integra, and Honda Accord, all built at the Marysville Auto Plant in Ohio. “These declines are not due to demand plummeting, but were expected impacts due to the significant reconfiguration of our Marysville Auto Plant where they are all built. We’re combining lines 1 & 2 into one line,” the spokesperson explained.
https://www.carscoops.com/2024/06/ac...ges-76-in-may/
A Honda spokesperson reached out to [carscoops.com] to address the decline in sales of the Acura TLX, Integra, and Honda Accord, all built at the Marysville Auto Plant in Ohio. “These declines are not due to demand plummeting, but were expected impacts due to the significant reconfiguration of our Marysville Auto Plant where they are all built. We’re combining lines 1 & 2 into one line,” the spokesperson explained.
https://www.carscoops.com/2024/06/ac...ges-76-in-may/
The 10G at least looked like a cousin to the TLX. You saw some of the family resemblance. It was a good looking car. It didn't quite have the angles/edges of the TLX, but it still seemed sporty in a similar vein.
The new version has no personality at all. At best it's non-descript. At worst it's ugly. It's hard to tell what Honda was going for as it no longer bears any resemblance to the other cars in the lineup. Even more confusing as the new Civic was an evolution of the previous design and looks great. I can see why sales are declining. The comments in the video above are spot on.
As is his point that Camry sales are poised to pummel Accord. The Accord is already selling slower than the Civic or Camry, despite having way more inventory available. That's going to accelerate as Camry and Civic Hybrid production ramps up. Camry did it right. They took a good design, made it better and went all hybrid throughout the line. Honda made an uglier car and split a gas/hybrid lineup. That makes no sense as people who are getting base/lower money want to save money too. Who is going to choose a gas Accord or a hybrid Camry for the same price?
I'd hoped Acura would expand the hybrids to the TLX line like Lexus did for the 300 series. I hybrid TLX would be my dream car right now.
Instead they went for a lazy 'refresh' which was essentially just streamlining a bloated line, adding a bigger screen to a bad infotainment system, digital guages (standard with most models now) and a new grill.
The new version has no personality at all. At best it's non-descript. At worst it's ugly. It's hard to tell what Honda was going for as it no longer bears any resemblance to the other cars in the lineup. Even more confusing as the new Civic was an evolution of the previous design and looks great. I can see why sales are declining. The comments in the video above are spot on.
As is his point that Camry sales are poised to pummel Accord. The Accord is already selling slower than the Civic or Camry, despite having way more inventory available. That's going to accelerate as Camry and Civic Hybrid production ramps up. Camry did it right. They took a good design, made it better and went all hybrid throughout the line. Honda made an uglier car and split a gas/hybrid lineup. That makes no sense as people who are getting base/lower money want to save money too. Who is going to choose a gas Accord or a hybrid Camry for the same price?
I'd hoped Acura would expand the hybrids to the TLX line like Lexus did for the 300 series. I hybrid TLX would be my dream car right now.
Instead they went for a lazy 'refresh' which was essentially just streamlining a bloated line, adding a bigger screen to a bad infotainment system, digital guages (standard with most models now) and a new grill.
This is unfortunate because articles like this are popping up as of a day ago: https://www.carscoops.com/2024/05/sa...xcept-for-one/
"Acura U.S. Sales Figures Suggest A Dim Future For Japanese Luxury And Sports Sedans" https://www.topspeed.com/acura-sales-april-2024/
I have put an order down on a 2024 TLX Type S end of February. 6-8 weeks was my estimate. 8 weeks later I was informed there were "factory issues" at which time I found the article that they are changing up the Marysville Ohio plant so they can make EVs. And that in 2025, Accord production is being moved to Indiana (no information on TLX). I'm told there are many others waiting for a TLX in dealerships in and around Chicago. It's sad to see my dealer with 0 inventory of any trim or model year of TLX and they are a large Acura dealer.
Is it really just a bunch of "fan boys" that want a TLX - but then you can't go and say "TLX's are not selling no one wants sedans!" when you don't make any to purchase....
"Acura U.S. Sales Figures Suggest A Dim Future For Japanese Luxury And Sports Sedans" https://www.topspeed.com/acura-sales-april-2024/
I have put an order down on a 2024 TLX Type S end of February. 6-8 weeks was my estimate. 8 weeks later I was informed there were "factory issues" at which time I found the article that they are changing up the Marysville Ohio plant so they can make EVs. And that in 2025, Accord production is being moved to Indiana (no information on TLX). I'm told there are many others waiting for a TLX in dealerships in and around Chicago. It's sad to see my dealer with 0 inventory of any trim or model year of TLX and they are a large Acura dealer.
Is it really just a bunch of "fan boys" that want a TLX - but then you can't go and say "TLX's are not selling no one wants sedans!" when you don't make any to purchase....
I just got off the phone with Acura Customer Relations (corporate) and they are refusing to admit to any manufacturing changes/issues. I responded, so basically you're telling the consumer to go elsewhere and buy a car. The rep didn't know how to respond. It's unprecedented! I've been buying Hondas and Acuras for over 30 years and I've never had issues with finding the car I wanted on the lot or having it transferred from another dealer.
I don't trust the European competition (Audi, Mercedes, BMW, etc.). I like to keep my cars for about 10 years and the German engineering are know to be considerably more expensive to maintain over long periods of time. My current 2015 TLX SH-AWD Tech has been a fantastic car! I love the naturally aspirated V-6 and I haven't had any issues. If Acura doesn't start manufacturing the 24 TLX Type S over the next 6 months, I'm going with the Lexus IS-350 F Sport AWD.
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Honda detailed what is happening to the Marysville line in the press release below below, and it aligns with carscoop's reporting. Essentially they are not building any new plants beyond their new battery plant, everything else is a slow conversion of existing facilities from ICE to EV. Marysville is being converted into a dynamic line that can handle both ICE and EV, seems like a good hedge as demand mix is incredibly hard to predict at this time.
https://hondanews.com/en-US/releases...-north-america
https://hondanews.com/en-US/releases...-north-america
I wholeheartedly agree! The low sales numbers not because of lack of interest by the consumer. It is due to an Acura production issue. It's mind boggling to me that Acura could be selling thousands of TLXs but decided to shift their focus to producing other Honda/Acura vehicles.
Yes! It is real. I had a few EV for work trips before (Volvo, Kia, Hyundai) and while hotel-work-hotel only 10min away, but by the 4th day the anxiety kicked in and I couldn't explored the area after work like I can with the ICE cars. There was one instance I had to find a charging station near the airport and sat there for 1/2 an hour just to have enough for another day of work.
I would pick the plugin-hybrid or hybrid any day over EV for the green purpose or gas saving.
I would pick the plugin-hybrid or hybrid any day over EV for the green purpose or gas saving.
Yes! It is real. I had a few EV for work trips before (Volvo, Kia, Hyundai) and while hotel-work-hotel only 10min away, but by the 4th day the anxiety kicked in and I couldn't explored the area after work like I can with the ICE cars. There was one instance I had to find a charging station near the airport and sat there for 1/2 an hour just to have enough for another day of work.
I would pick the plugin-hybrid or hybrid any day over EV for the green purpose or gas saving.
I would pick the plugin-hybrid or hybrid any day over EV for the green purpose or gas saving.
Unless Acura has plans to quickly offer hybrid versions of the Integra,TLX, RDX, and MDX they may really suffer going forward. Converting their plants for EV's prematurely is not a smart decision. There are many people that will buy a hybrid long before they ever consider an EV. I hope they figure this out before long!!!
"Honda’s Marysville plant begins EV conversion"
https://www.limaohio.com/top-stories...ev-conversion/
https://www.limaohio.com/top-stories...ev-conversion/
A combination of factors;
Sales in 2024 have slowed to a crawl compared to 2023. Through April 1,576 versus 5,296 last year.
Production was slowed due to the slow sales and Honda closing one production line in Marysville to convert to electric vehicles. Through March 2024 production was 3,072 versus 7,770 in 2023. Honda would rather produce CRV, Accord and Integra at Marysville on the one line they now operate at the expense of TLX.
The decision appears to make perfect business sense-why produce a car that has lost most of its popularity. To clear out the 2023 inventory Acura had to put high incentives on the car. They do not want to overproduce the 2024 models only to have to discount them in the end to be able to sell them.
Sedans are a dying breed unfortunately and this is the consequence.
TLX is not a bad car, I leased one for three years, however it never really caught on and truth be told, who really knows the future for the model. There are no supply chain issues anymore for Honda, they are producing what is selling.
Sales in 2024 have slowed to a crawl compared to 2023. Through April 1,576 versus 5,296 last year.
Production was slowed due to the slow sales and Honda closing one production line in Marysville to convert to electric vehicles. Through March 2024 production was 3,072 versus 7,770 in 2023. Honda would rather produce CRV, Accord and Integra at Marysville on the one line they now operate at the expense of TLX.
The decision appears to make perfect business sense-why produce a car that has lost most of its popularity. To clear out the 2023 inventory Acura had to put high incentives on the car. They do not want to overproduce the 2024 models only to have to discount them in the end to be able to sell them.
Sedans are a dying breed unfortunately and this is the consequence.
TLX is not a bad car, I leased one for three years, however it never really caught on and truth be told, who really knows the future for the model. There are no supply chain issues anymore for Honda, they are producing what is selling.
I am a service advisor at an Acura dealer. You’re not wrong in the sales of specific vehicles. We do get quite a few TLX/Integras in for service but the majority of newer cars are RDX/MDX which isn’t a surprise. I currently have a TLX Type S but we’re looking at adding either an RDX or MDX to our garage as we just had our first child 7 weeks ago. The additional space is welcome as it’s easier and more comfortable for everyone. I still have no plans to sell my TLX but sooner or later I’ll need to look at something bigger for myself too.
I took my 22 TLX to get serviced and once again asked "where are the TLX Type S models for sale"? This particular dealer had about FORTY ZDX's in stock. and ZERO TLX Type S models. The refreshed Type S is the only Acura product I am interested in and having owned a TL/TLX since 2004...I am not looking forward to switching manufacturers. Wife has a plug in hybrid SUV (Volvo) so I get to have the "fun" car, even though that SUV will obliterate my TLX up to 112 mph. The last time I asked, I was told the dealers weren't ordering them because Acura had no favorable lease deals...then I was told they had relaxed that and I should see some soon...it is JUNE of 2024 and there are no current model year vehicles on lots for sale. VERY disappointing.
I took my 22 TLX to get serviced and once again asked "where are the TLX Type S models for sale"? This particular dealer had about FORTY ZDX's in stock. and ZERO TLX Type S models. The refreshed Type S is the only Acura product I am interested in and having owned a TL/TLX since 2004...I am not looking forward to switching manufacturers. Wife has a plug in hybrid SUV (Volvo) so I get to have the "fun" car, even though that SUV will obliterate my TLX up to 112 mph. The last time I asked, I was told the dealers weren't ordering them because Acura had no favorable lease deals...then I was told they had relaxed that and I should see some soon...it is JUNE of 2024 and there are no current model year vehicles on lots for sale. VERY disappointing.
I see more cars listed as 'in transit' for my area (DFW) than in the last few weeks. But no idea of they are actually in transit or cars that have been ordered and are in production. The ones they have aren't really moving. I'm kind of interested in a blue a-apec - but preferred a different interior color at the closest Acura dealer. They have that car and the same two Tech models in stock for the last 2+months.
It doesn't feel like they are moving and Acura isn't doing anything to push them.
I was at my "local" Acura dealer for a main bearing recall on my 2015 TLX.
I asked about acquiring a 2024 S.
Their response was: give us a $5000 deposit, we will put the order in the pipeline.
They cannot tell me how much the car will be, much less how long the order will take.
Never mind what dealer options I'm interested in.
This is a sad state of affairs for Acura.
I read where the PMC facility in OH. is now building Honda CRV Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles.
Mind you this is a 3 or 4 yr. lease only and limited to single digit states.
Here in Ca. I'm not sure there are any H. stations left. Shell closed the few they had in large urban areas.
This is the facility that built the NSX and the PMC's.
Would not be at all surprised if the TLX sedan never reaches the next generation.
ICE (for now) and EV SUV's rule the day for Acura.
David
I asked about acquiring a 2024 S.
Their response was: give us a $5000 deposit, we will put the order in the pipeline.
They cannot tell me how much the car will be, much less how long the order will take.
Never mind what dealer options I'm interested in.
This is a sad state of affairs for Acura.
I read where the PMC facility in OH. is now building Honda CRV Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles.
Mind you this is a 3 or 4 yr. lease only and limited to single digit states.
Here in Ca. I'm not sure there are any H. stations left. Shell closed the few they had in large urban areas.
This is the facility that built the NSX and the PMC's.
Would not be at all surprised if the TLX sedan never reaches the next generation.
ICE (for now) and EV SUV's rule the day for Acura.
David
I am currently sitting at a local-ish Acura dealer right now to see the salesman that sold me my first Acura. They have 0 TLX Type-S models on the lot, and their sister dealership in the next town over doesn't have any either. They got a few ZDXs and a bunch of MDXs and RDXs, quite a few integras, and only a handful of TLXs (again none are Type-S models lol)
This makes a convincing argument for me to sell my TLX-S to them and demand a premium for it lol.
This makes a convincing argument for me to sell my TLX-S to them and demand a premium for it lol.
As I mentioned above the majority of cars sold at my work are either an RDX or MDX. I think the Integra sells more than the TLX too. But without SH-AWD the Integra is a no go from the start IMO.
They implied they are expecting Acura to have some new incentives across the board in July. 2k off an A-Spec and some incentives could get me interested again. I've gotten to sour a bit on Acura for a future car as the TLX future seems in doubt. Plus, I'm kinda hybrid curious now.
The fact is consumers want an SUV far more than sedans now. Especially with the smaller interior space of a TLX it’s just not the best option for families. I bought my TLX Type S without even considering rear interior room because I was in a relationship but no baby. It was t even a thought that crossed my mind. Now with an 8 week old baby boy I’ve come to realize it’s just not ideal but trading it in isn’t ideal either.
As I mentioned above the majority of cars sold at my work are either an RDX or MDX. I think the Integra sells more than the TLX too. But without SH-AWD the Integra is a no go from the start IMO.
As I mentioned above the majority of cars sold at my work are either an RDX or MDX. I think the Integra sells more than the TLX too. But without SH-AWD the Integra is a no go from the start IMO.
The guy at the Acura dealer made a good point that the TLX is kinda like a coupe in that regard. It's a 4-door car....but not in the way that people who want a family car want a 4-door car to be designed.
Acura built a niche car, so I hope they're not surprised that they're seeing niche car sales numbers. Other automakers can do that kind of thing because they sell globally, so even a less popular model will still result in a larger number of total sales. For instance, Audi sold a mere 18K A5/S5/RS5s in 2022 in the US, but Europe netted them another 23K, and who knows how many more they got out of China. I know how many additional TLX's Acura sold in Europe and China: zero.
The fact is consumers want an SUV far more than sedans now. Especially with the smaller interior space of a TLX it’s just not the best option for families. I bought my TLX Type S without even considering rear interior room because I was in a relationship but no baby. It was t even a thought that crossed my mind. Now with an 8 week old baby boy I’ve come to realize it’s just not ideal but trading it in isn’t ideal either.
As I mentioned above the majority of cars sold at my work are either an RDX or MDX. I think the Integra sells more than the TLX too. But without SH-AWD the Integra is a no go from the start IMO.
As I mentioned above the majority of cars sold at my work are either an RDX or MDX. I think the Integra sells more than the TLX too. But without SH-AWD the Integra is a no go from the start IMO.
I bought my Type-S with a 1yr old. Now 3 and the car seat is no longer rear facing. It has helped with a front seat passanger in terms of space. Other than the car seat, I rarely have a passanger in the car with me, so idc about rear leg room.
We have a car seat in her ILX so I’m sure it’ll fit in the TLX and I have no desire to get rid of it. The ILX will likely go this year for an RDX.
Anyway the seat will fit technically, however the front passanger will be cramped and you have to be cognizant of the car seat being pushed up off the back seat.










