Base TLX or TLX Type S
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I wish you could pick and choose interiors!
the flat bottom steering wheel (obviously no red stitching) with the darker wood finish is a little more pleasing to the eye, at least to me
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2021 TLX 2.0T Advance SH-AWD - Wheels
So these must be:
19 inch - Pewter Gray Metallic Machine-Finished Interwoven Aluminum-Alloy Wheels
I personally think they are the best stock wheels. Using 2020 TLX for reference, looks like a wheel upgrade is $2000 , but who in their right-mind does that ? (that's crazy-money). I think upgrading to from Tech to Advance for $5000 is a much better value.
For $45k+ ... I would really like some nice wheels.
19 inch - Pewter Gray Metallic Machine-Finished Interwoven Aluminum-Alloy Wheels
I personally think they are the best stock wheels. Using 2020 TLX for reference, looks like a wheel upgrade is $2000 , but who in their right-mind does that ? (that's crazy-money). I think upgrading to from Tech to Advance for $5000 is a much better value.
For $45k+ ... I would really like some nice wheels.
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Like it was an afterthought
*Designers shootin' the shit*
" Hey, Throwback Thursday y'all, Remember, white face gauges?
"oh yeah, all the COOL and FAST cars had them! "
"OMG ya'll we can evoke sooo much emotion with them in the Aspec model! ASPEC is fast right?"
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#206
The white face gauges ALSO look out of place.
Like it was an afterthought
*Designers shootin' the shit*
" Hey, Throwback Thursday y'all, Remember, white face gauges?
"oh yeah, all the COOL and FAST cars had them! "
"OMG ya'll we can evoke sooo much emotion with them in the Aspec model! ASPEC is fast right?"
Like it was an afterthought
*Designers shootin' the shit*
" Hey, Throwback Thursday y'all, Remember, white face gauges?
"oh yeah, all the COOL and FAST cars had them! "
"OMG ya'll we can evoke sooo much emotion with them in the Aspec model! ASPEC is fast right?"
#207
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The white face gauges ALSO look out of place.
Like it was an afterthought
*Designers shootin' the shit*
" Hey, Throwback Thursday y'all, Remember, white face gauges?
"oh yeah, all the COOL and FAST cars had them! "
"OMG ya'll we can evoke sooo much emotion with them in the Aspec model! ASPEC is fast right?"
Like it was an afterthought
*Designers shootin' the shit*
" Hey, Throwback Thursday y'all, Remember, white face gauges?
"oh yeah, all the COOL and FAST cars had them! "
"OMG ya'll we can evoke sooo much emotion with them in the Aspec model! ASPEC is fast right?"
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So these must be:
19 inch - Pewter Gray Metallic Machine-Finished Interwoven Aluminum-Alloy Wheels
I personally think they are the best stock wheels. Using 2020 TLX for reference, looks like a wheel upgrade is $2000 , but who in their right-mind does that ? (that's crazy-money). I think upgrading to from Tech to Advance for $5000 is a much better value.
For $45k+ ... I would really like some nice wheels.
19 inch - Pewter Gray Metallic Machine-Finished Interwoven Aluminum-Alloy Wheels
I personally think they are the best stock wheels. Using 2020 TLX for reference, looks like a wheel upgrade is $2000 , but who in their right-mind does that ? (that's crazy-money). I think upgrading to from Tech to Advance for $5000 is a much better value.
For $45k+ ... I would really like some nice wheels.
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Gave my (still working) circa-2004 (digital) GE Refrigerator to my brother. Got another GE ( now GE/Haier )
The Kenmore washer/dryer set also lasted 16 years. Went with Maytag this time.
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2. Yeah, it's like they throw the intended set in the dumpster, instead of us just paying the difference. Is there really even a difference in their actual wholesale cost? (I doubt much if any)
3. Thanks for your honest opinion. It's re-assuring for me to know that others like them too (and I'm not making something outta nothing).
4. The base and Tech get ... yet something else ... they also look heavily painted ... but bright ?
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We learned that lesson when we renovated the house. We needed a fairly large odd size refrigerator for the opening at the time home depot had the LG in the size we needed (which looked the best also). All the other appliances are from GE. When we did the basement kitchen last summer, we did whirlpool.
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We learned that lesson when we renovated the house. We needed a fairly large odd size refrigerator for the opening at the time home depot had the LG in the size we needed (which looked the best also). All the other appliances are from GE. When we did the basement kitchen last summer, we did whirlpool.
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Funny. I was just about to comment something along the lines of, "could be worse, you could have gone GE/Whirlpool/Maytag." *awkward cough*
I could be wrong, but I've heard those three companies in particular (via Reddit) have taken a massive nosedive in overall quality. GE in the 80's was the benchmark, now I hear they're bottom of the barrel. Then again, I hear that's about true for most home appliances. Had the SubZero fridge repaired last year and the guy balked when I said it was time to get a new one. He said everything nowadays is junk and he sees more repairs on the newer, shiny stuff than the older stuff. He also was in love with my unit and said he wished he could afford one of his own (fridge came with the house, never realized how expensive they were). He told me unless I had 10k+ burning a hole in my pocket for another SubZ, I should just keep it as it would outlast the newer stuff 3x over.
As for TV's, how long do you expect to really get out of them? Unless you make the mistake of getting the latest and greatest, there are really nice 65" units at CostCo for right around a grand. Doing a quick Google search, this is the first link:
https://www.reviewed.com/televisions...ould-a-tv-last
Seems 5-7yrs is the average lifespan. With the size and quality that these displays have, there's gotta be a compromise somewhere. They might not last as long as the old tube TVs, but do you really want to go back to that era? LoL.
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The 3 Series interior is not small, it's the same size as the outgoing 5 Series. Who wants a huge sport sedan? Not me.
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Definitely interested in testing the TLX when it comes out, while impatiently waiting for the Type-S and still driving a 2015 IS350 so I went and test drove a 2020 S4 Prestige today to see if I could make a low mileage lease work. Virtual Cockpit was quite impressive, very minimal turbo lag, and the low-down push when accelerating was addictive. Only took the car for a test drive for a few miles but found it to be very comfortable. They definitely need a full redesign for the A/S4 for the new touchscreen system to be integrated within the interior layout. The one I test drove had a $64K sticker.
I was very explicit that I was looking to be around $550/month with $5K down before I ever came in for a test drive. I nearly fell out of the chair when the salesman came back with the following 'offer':
36 months - $892.33/month
39 months - 893.42/month
42 months $875.44/month
Pretty piss poor experience with the luxury brand, needless to say, the conversation was over very quickly. Definitely soured my opinion of the brand which is disappointing after how much I liked the car.
I was very explicit that I was looking to be around $550/month with $5K down before I ever came in for a test drive. I nearly fell out of the chair when the salesman came back with the following 'offer':
36 months - $892.33/month
39 months - 893.42/month
42 months $875.44/month
Pretty piss poor experience with the luxury brand, needless to say, the conversation was over very quickly. Definitely soured my opinion of the brand which is disappointing after how much I liked the car.
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Call me crazy, but I think the area right next to the volume knob/seek button is a missed opportunity. Maybe a rectangular slit to store your phone would have been great, in addition to the charging/storage area under your arm (which kind of makes it awkward to get to your phone). Honestly, I think Honda's digital gear selector takes up way too much room ... or, at least the way they design/utilize it. It seems like so much space is wasted on that entire center stack area for the gear selector + drive mode selector. Not to mention it the PITA the whole idea makes it to tow your car if your batter ever dies ... the fact there isn't an override without turning something on the physical transmission is beyond me.
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#217
It's not just you, from the side profile I think it looks quintessentially Honda. I think it's these wheels, they remind me a lot of the wheels Honda has been using recently.
#218
Burning Brakes
1. He said everything nowadays is junk and he sees more repairs on the newer, shiny stuff than the older stuff.
2. As for TV's, how long do you expect to really get out of them?
3. Unless you make the mistake of getting the latest and greatest
4. Seems 5-7yrs is the average lifespan.
2. When you spend $3000 on a TV, more than 10 years would be nice. Problem appeared to be the panel itself (not circuit boards) ... which renders it un-repairable. Earlier in life, I worked as a service technician.
3. Right, better to buy old obsolete stuff. Yes, it was one of the first large Plasmas ... back when DLP rear-projection was the norm (and max LCD size was 17-inches).
4. Yeah, that is lame. Sure, replaced it with a large LG-4K (I know Korean) for $250 (as the old plasma had been moved to workout-room) but that is not the point.
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2. When you spend $3000 on a TV, more than 10 years would be nice. Problem appeared to be the panel itself (not circuit boards) ... which renders it un-repairable. Earlier in life, I worked as a service technician.
3. Right, better to buy old obsolete stuff. Yes, it was one of the first large Plasmas ... back when DLP rear-projection was the norm (and max LCD size was 17-inches).
4. Yeah, that is lame. Sure, replaced it with a large LG-4K (I know Korean) for $250 (as the old plasma had been moved to workout-room) but that is not the point.
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#220
Instructor
If i was to get the new TLX, i would probably go with the Advance. My only issue is, i hate the wood lol. I think the aluminum makes it look more sporty. The wood reminds me of wood paneling in houses.
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Yeah, the styling of the Hondas and Acuras has always been rather conservative. But to me, this is one of the bigger departures.
#223
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Both my 1994 and 2004 Honda Accords had small amounts of (obviously plastic/fake) wood. Same with the old Maxima.
On the other hand, the wood in the new Audi looks real, but it is stained a very-dark black color.
Your options are Tech and/or A-Spec . Pretty sure you can get A-Spec in Ebony leather (but not sure what that looks like exactly).
#224
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Yeah, hard to mistake wood for anything other than wood.
Both my 1994 and 2004 Honda Accords had small amounts of (obviously plastic/fake) wood. Same with the old Maxima.
On the other hand, the wood in the new Audi looks real, but it is stained a very-dark black color.
Your options are Tech and/or A-Spec . Pretty sure you can get A-Spec in Ebony leather (but not sure what that looks like exactly).
Both my 1994 and 2004 Honda Accords had small amounts of (obviously plastic/fake) wood. Same with the old Maxima.
On the other hand, the wood in the new Audi looks real, but it is stained a very-dark black color.
Your options are Tech and/or A-Spec . Pretty sure you can get A-Spec in Ebony leather (but not sure what that looks like exactly).
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At this point, I'm hoping a TLX lease isn't as absurd as what the RDX seemed to be, or at least what I was initially offered when looking at one.
Does anyone have any thoughts on what an SH-AWD Advance might end up costing?
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I know that now and telling them what I'm willing to pay means nothing when they bring that paper out for over $400/month more. Byers Audi just doubled the size of the list of car dealerships I will never do business (Kelly BMW, you are no longer alone).
At this point, I'm hoping a TLX lease isn't as absurd as what the RDX seemed to be, or at least what I was initially offered when looking at one.
Does anyone have any thoughts on what an SH-AWD Advance might end up costing?
At this point, I'm hoping a TLX lease isn't as absurd as what the RDX seemed to be, or at least what I was initially offered when looking at one.
Does anyone have any thoughts on what an SH-AWD Advance might end up costing?
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People who buy Acuras are largely pragmatic and make decisions using their brain rather than their heart. That's great for cars like the RDX where it undercuts the competition by quite a bit and offers more space/utility. However, the problem with the TLX is that if you line it up next to an RDX that costs the same, it's going to be difficult for left-brain folks to justify buying the TLX, especially with the huge incentives the RDX currently has. The RDX has more cargo space, a larger backseat, easier to park and get in and out of, etc. The TLX certainly has the emotional appeal and wins on driving experience, that's for sure, but those things don't really resonate with a lot of Acura buyers.
So, I'm calling it now: it's not going to sell as well the 1G TLX. While this is a better car than the 1G TLX, the 1G was really two cars in one, with one of them competing aggressively on price, and it had a pretty lackluster internal competitor in the 2G RDX. I'll go ahead and bookmark this post so that I can either toot my own horn a couple years from now, or admit I was wrong.
So, I'm calling it now: it's not going to sell as well the 1G TLX. While this is a better car than the 1G TLX, the 1G was really two cars in one, with one of them competing aggressively on price, and it had a pretty lackluster internal competitor in the 2G RDX. I'll go ahead and bookmark this post so that I can either toot my own horn a couple years from now, or admit I was wrong.
A lot of my female friends seem to only want SUV's too.
This is definitely a tough segment. Perhaps that's why Lexus still has not done a FMC for the IS.
lol I haven't had much luck with my Samsung appliances too..my dryer broke down twice already and it was brand new back in 2015...
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Yeah for the MSRP price, those prices aren't real and don't take in account discounts, negotiating the final price etc.
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The white face gauges ALSO look out of place.
Like it was an afterthought
*Designers shootin' the shit*
" Hey, Throwback Thursday y'all, Remember, white face gauges?
"oh yeah, all the COOL and FAST cars had them! "
"OMG ya'll we can evoke sooo much emotion with them in the Aspec model! ASPEC is fast right?"
Like it was an afterthought
*Designers shootin' the shit*
" Hey, Throwback Thursday y'all, Remember, white face gauges?
"oh yeah, all the COOL and FAST cars had them! "
"OMG ya'll we can evoke sooo much emotion with them in the Aspec model! ASPEC is fast right?"
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Last car I can remember that I had with wood was a early '90's Jaguar, great looking wood. Have never ordered wood since as most just does not look good. Even the quality wood looks like plastic.
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Yeah but you can just use the leasehackr calculator to determine what the numbers would look like given the expected sale price and what you think your money factor will be. Residual will likely be very similar to the current TLX. It's all very formulaic; it's not like there's some sort of secret sauce that each manufacturer applies. At the end of the day a lease is just a glorified balloon loan.
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#234
Thats what I’ve been saying for a while now. Buy the accessory spoiler and be done with it. I believe that you can buy from Acura the dash and door wood inserts, but I wouldn’t expect them to be cheap. Better just to pay the extra two grand for the Advance and get all the additional features.
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The benefit of the Type-S will be that you get the performance options AND the top-trim. You don't have to choose between Advance and A-Spec. This was a glaring hole in Acura's strategy, and it will probably make those who want an entry-level luxury car with some performance happy.
It won't be a CT5-V. It won't be an S4. It will also be over $10K cheaper than those cars, optioned similarly.
It won't be a CT5-V. It won't be an S4. It will also be over $10K cheaper than those cars, optioned similarly.
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The benefit of the Type-S will be that you get the performance options AND the top-trim. You don't have to choose between Advance and A-Spec. This was a glaring hole in Acura's strategy, and it will probably make those who want an entry-level luxury car with some performance happy.
It won't be a CT5-V. It won't be an S4. It will also be over $10K cheaper than those cars, optioned similarly.
It won't be a CT5-V. It won't be an S4. It will also be over $10K cheaper than those cars, optioned similarly.
#237
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What's odd about the new TLX is that the best bang for the buck is actually the Advance/Elite top trim. The others are missing options to justify price over an Accord. AWD aside, of course.
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I don't understand why the Type-S doesn't have two trims. A Tech trim for those that want performance on a budget, or for those that don't really care for all the additional features. And a Advance/Elite trim for those that want performance and everything else. It's not like we're asking Acura to split the Type-S into five different trims. Actually never mind. I can answer my own question. Acura is Acura and they do Acura things, for better or for worse.
Kind of sad when we have brands like Genesis whizzing past Acura. Great value, good looking vehicles, proper-wheel drive, and none of this arbitrary "you can have all the goodies on the 2.0T model, but too bad, so sad, you can't have those on the 3.0T". Really, the only thing hurting Genesis at this point is a lack of a dealer infrastructure. And while Acura no doubt have been improving the brand, they're still largely riding on brand recognition. The Type-S was their chance to put themselves on the pedestal and stand out, but even interest in the vehicle seems to be fizzling away.
Kind of sad when we have brands like Genesis whizzing past Acura. Great value, good looking vehicles, proper-wheel drive, and none of this arbitrary "you can have all the goodies on the 2.0T model, but too bad, so sad, you can't have those on the 3.0T". Really, the only thing hurting Genesis at this point is a lack of a dealer infrastructure. And while Acura no doubt have been improving the brand, they're still largely riding on brand recognition. The Type-S was their chance to put themselves on the pedestal and stand out, but even interest in the vehicle seems to be fizzling away.
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I don't understand why the Type-S doesn't have two trims. A Tech trim for those that want performance on a budget, or for those that don't really care for all the additional features. And a Advance/Elite trim for those that want performance and everything else. It's not like we're asking Acura to split the Type-S into five different trims. Actually never mind. I can answer my own question. Acura is Acura and they do Acura things, for better or for worse.
Kind of sad when we have brands like Genesis whizzing past Acura. Great value, good looking vehicles, proper-wheel drive, and none of this arbitrary "you can have all the goodies on the 2.0T model, but too bad, so sad, you can't have those on the 3.0T". Really, the only thing hurting Genesis at this point is a lack of a dealer infrastructure. And while Acura no doubt have been improving the brand, they're still largely riding on brand recognition. The Type-S was their chance to put themselves on the pedestal and stand out, but even interest in the vehicle seems to be fizzling away.
Kind of sad when we have brands like Genesis whizzing past Acura. Great value, good looking vehicles, proper-wheel drive, and none of this arbitrary "you can have all the goodies on the 2.0T model, but too bad, so sad, you can't have those on the 3.0T". Really, the only thing hurting Genesis at this point is a lack of a dealer infrastructure. And while Acura no doubt have been improving the brand, they're still largely riding on brand recognition. The Type-S was their chance to put themselves on the pedestal and stand out, but even interest in the vehicle seems to be fizzling away.
They can even have the base type s be priced under $50k for food marketing.
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1. I don't understand why the Type-S doesn't have two trims. A Tech trim for those that want performance on a budget, or for those that don't really care for all the additional features. And a Advance/Elite trim for those that want performance and everything else.
2. proper-wheel drive,
2. proper-wheel drive,
Here in the states, it sounds like potential buyers are already frowning on $54,000 USD for a Type-S ( and it's estimated 355hp, and only this and why that, etc.).
Not everything, but I thought Canadian models got more features than us here in the states ?
2. Said by the owner of a TLX with SH-AWD . I also appreciate AWD on a sedan, and I don't mind paying for it.