Acura TLX Type-S PMC Edition - Official Reveal
#321
Air Vice Marshal
Hand Assembly
- Hand Assembled at the Performance Manufacturing Center (PMC)
Does anyone know how much actual assembly is done at the PMC other than installing the various accessories?
#323
Air Vice Marshal
The PMC *WAS* the NSX assembly line.
I would think that the TLX's are built on the normal line with some exterior parts that would be replaced anyway being simply left off, then they go the the PMC for those bits and the special PMC paint, which is undoubtedly the main contribution, It's a very special high tech paint that even requires special care from the new owners.
#324
Quick youtube search found below. Looks like the other PMCs undergo pretty extensive hand assembly there too.
https://youtu.be/5BI-D5OlKnk
https://youtu.be/5BI-D5OlKnk
Last edited by mvl; 01-27-2023 at 07:12 PM.
#326
As per usual, my favorite rendition of the PMC is in white. It just looks so much better IMO with those colored wheels and accents.
One "zonk" I noticed is the fuel door. Are all TLX fuel doors recessed in like that? First time I've noticed it while watching the video. Makes the car look not as high quality and makes the lines not flow quite as well.
EDIT: Looking at other TLX videos and Acura's own website, looks like all the fuel doors are flush. I guess this is what "hand assembled" gets you? Still a beautiful car, but come on. Do better.
One "zonk" I noticed is the fuel door. Are all TLX fuel doors recessed in like that? First time I've noticed it while watching the video. Makes the car look not as high quality and makes the lines not flow quite as well.
EDIT: Looking at other TLX videos and Acura's own website, looks like all the fuel doors are flush. I guess this is what "hand assembled" gets you? Still a beautiful car, but come on. Do better.
Last edited by leomio2.0; 02-02-2023 at 10:40 AM.
#327
As per usual, my favorite rendition of the PMC is in white. It just looks so much better IMO with those colored wheels and accents.
One "zonk" I noticed is the fuel door. Are all TLX fuel doors recessed in like that? First time I've noticed it while watching the video. Makes the car look not as high quality and makes the lines not flow quite as well.
EDIT: Looking at other TLX videos and Acura's own website, looks like all the fuel doors are flush. I guess this is what "hand assembled" gets you? Still a beautiful car, but come on. Do better.
One "zonk" I noticed is the fuel door. Are all TLX fuel doors recessed in like that? First time I've noticed it while watching the video. Makes the car look not as high quality and makes the lines not flow quite as well.
EDIT: Looking at other TLX videos and Acura's own website, looks like all the fuel doors are flush. I guess this is what "hand assembled" gets you? Still a beautiful car, but come on. Do better.
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#328
Three Wheelin'
Simply gorgeous!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-eMzyVKJ50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-eMzyVKJ50
Last edited by PhilB81; 02-03-2023 at 07:34 PM.
#329
I see a lot of posts on social media with dealers posting the PMC. Some have 2 on the showroom floor. Are we sure they only made 300 LOL. Also, these were all presold. Wtf would you want your presold car to be sitting on the showroom floor where people will slobber all over them especially when you paid $10K extra for pretty much a fancy paint job.
My car was not PMC and I would not allow it to be on the floor for one second. Lock that shit up and park it in the pickup area only.
My car was not PMC and I would not allow it to be on the floor for one second. Lock that shit up and park it in the pickup area only.
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Now my CAD$64K TLX TYPE S will cost CAD$90K CAD hahaha! Forget it!
#332
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I see a lot of posts on social media with dealers posting the PMC. Some have 2 on the showroom floor. Are we sure they only made 300 LOL. Also, these were all presold. Wtf would you want your presold car to be sitting on the showroom floor where people will slobber all over them especially when you paid $10K extra for pretty much a fancy paint job.
My car was not PMC and I would not allow it to be on the floor for one second. Lock that shit up and park it in the pickup area only.
My car was not PMC and I would not allow it to be on the floor for one second. Lock that shit up and park it in the pickup area only.
#333
My Curva Red is currently sitting at the dealer. Waiting on Black Chrome A to arrive so they can swap out the stupid Chrome A on the trunk lid. Once that's done, I'll pick her up.
Yes, many people have backed out of their deposits because of rates, etc...
Yes, many people have backed out of their deposits because of rates, etc...
#334
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Its probably becauseI’m too poor, but I would have a hard time daily-ing a numbered car. Road rash and door dings would get me so upset. Those PMC colors are all super nice, I’m sure as a result they are hard to match for repairs. I really like the hand built treatment, I asked my dealer to get me on the NSX typeS list, they laughed
Anyways, for an occasion car, I think it’s awesome, I just don’t know that I could do it on a daily, although I really like the PMC.
Anyways, for an occasion car, I think it’s awesome, I just don’t know that I could do it on a daily, although I really like the PMC.
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#335
My wife dailies our RDX PMC. Put full PPF to help but we bought the car to drive it.
She already got rim rash (black PMC rims scratch showing silver) but the dealer has a rim repair service that made it look imperceptably like new.
Service Advisor says they can send the car to the Ohio PMC factory if bodywork is needed. Hope that never happens as that can't be cheap.
She already got rim rash (black PMC rims scratch showing silver) but the dealer has a rim repair service that made it look imperceptably like new.
Service Advisor says they can send the car to the Ohio PMC factory if bodywork is needed. Hope that never happens as that can't be cheap.
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Its probably becauseI’m too poor, but I would have a hard time daily-ing a numbered car. Road rash and door dings would get me so upset. Those PMC colors are all super nice, I’m sure as a result they are hard to match for repairs. I really like the hand built treatment, I asked my dealer to get me on the NSX typeS list, they laughed
Anyways, for an occasion car, I think it’s awesome, I just don’t know that I could do it on a daily, although I really like the PMC.
Anyways, for an occasion car, I think it’s awesome, I just don’t know that I could do it on a daily, although I really like the PMC.
Even with my regular Type-S I’m still a bit conscious about where I drive it and such. But it’s a daily and it’s meant to be driven so I drive it (I’m already at 870 miles in the 2 weeks I have had it lol)
At some point in the summer I’ll do a paint correction and PPF to it.
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I see a lot of posts on social media with dealers posting the PMC. Some have 2 on the showroom floor. Are we sure they only made 300 LOL. Also, these were all presold. Wtf would you want your presold car to be sitting on the showroom floor where people will slobber all over them especially when you paid $10K extra for pretty much a fancy paint job.
My car was not PMC and I would not allow it to be on the floor for one second. Lock that shit up and park it in the pickup area only.
My car was not PMC and I would not allow it to be on the floor for one second. Lock that shit up and park it in the pickup area only.
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This is correct and I saw it for myself on Sunday, apparently it’s 001/100 Curva Red
There is a 10k markup on it though. But someone might find it worth the price to own the very first PMC Type-S built
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#341
Does the regular Type S not have heated steering wheel standard in the US?!! I'm sure it's mandatory in Canada.
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#343
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That’s correct, in the US the heated steering wheel is offered as an option. Let’s not talk about not having surround view cameras - that’s a sore subject for us US TLX-S owners
#344
Car Crazy for Sure!
I agree daily-ing that would have me too conscious about driving it anywhere just cause it’s such a limited car, plus the price is so steep especially with markup it was just not worth it to me, so I just ended up getting a regular Type-S with the HP Wheel and Tire package.
Even with my regular Type-S I’m still a bit conscious about where I drive it and such. But it’s a daily and it’s meant to be driven so I drive it (I’m already at 870 miles in the 2 weeks I have had it lol)
At some point in the summer I’ll do a paint correction and PPF to it.
Even with my regular Type-S I’m still a bit conscious about where I drive it and such. But it’s a daily and it’s meant to be driven so I drive it (I’m already at 870 miles in the 2 weeks I have had it lol)
At some point in the summer I’ll do a paint correction and PPF to it.
in the showroom that is available. $4995 mark up. Less for me. But, I don't like the red with black int. near as much as the blue one.
NOTE: I talked with my Serv/Parts Director about the Copper Wheels/ w/center caps and lugs. They ARE available and he can get them within a week. I didn't get the part #, but, he did
price them to me...with my discount. And I priced the Y spoke opt. Type S wheel that we all know about. Strange....same price! If I hadn't already put on, at purchase of car, my BBS Y spoke
wheels I would order the copper ones. But, those BBS's weren't so cheap! I'm still thinking about it. Of course the copper wheels are the exact same as the "lightweight wheel" we've known,
just powder coated in copper this time.
I also thought about the fancy paint on the PMC and worrying about damage, etc. Even though I don't drive that car so much, it would still be "nervous time" to put on the street.
I have other vehicles to drive, but, still. And, bottom line.....I like my Type S. Drives, handles, performs etc great for my wants/needs. YES....the big issue for all us Type S owners,
is the fact of "no surround camera"...and other items left off that the Advance has....like HUD, etc. I did put on the carbon fiber pieces...except the rear diffuser. I also did the black out
badging. And the Y-spoke style BBS wheels.and my Conti tires. it's just a great car to drive. And it's not a daily driver.
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#345
Car Crazy for Sure!
I think not. There is a vast difference between the extremely limited production of the NSX and the addition of what are basically off the shelf accessories to a production car like the TLX.
The PMC *WAS* the NSX assembly line.
I would think that the TLX's are built on the normal line with some exterior parts that would be replaced anyway being simply left off, then they go the the PMC for those bits and the special PMC paint, which is undoubtedly the main contribution, It's a very special high tech paint that even requires special care from the new owners.
The PMC *WAS* the NSX assembly line.
I would think that the TLX's are built on the normal line with some exterior parts that would be replaced anyway being simply left off, then they go the the PMC for those bits and the special PMC paint, which is undoubtedly the main contribution, It's a very special high tech paint that even requires special care from the new owners.
Acura PMC video that shows the TLX being built and all info, etc. The body is hand fitted, one piece at a time, as all the other pieces. It's dynoed, shake tested, etc. The paint is gone over with special lights
multiple times with techs sitting on a roll around "chair" and it's basically built just like the NSX was...by the exact same Techs that built the NSX. It saved their jobs....for awhile anyway.
#346
Thoughts on Buying a 2023 TLX Type S PMC
Hi Everyone. I find myself in a convoluted situation. I tried to purchase a 2022 TLX Type S last year. I put the deposit down in Dec 2021 but its arrival in Denver was delayed every month, to the point I thought the dealership was screwing with me. "It'll be here in February." "It'll be here in March." "Sorry, it might be here in April." I hung in there but, by May 2022, I asked for my deposit back. The dealership obliged but I still wanted the Type S. I assumed the delays were due to supply chain issues and I'd wait until those issues were resolved.
In the fall of 2022, dealerships I had contacted earlier were sending emails about the 2023 model Type S coming back into stock. Keep in mind I was looking at other performance/luxury cars with AWD but, as a science researcher, I examine every nook and cranny, reviews written, KBB, Edmunds, C&D and on and on. At this point, I know more about the TLX Type S than an Acura salesman. Today (2/7/23), I had to tell a salesman and an Acura Master Mechanic what came with a Type S and Type S PMC. The mechanic actually owned a 2022 Type S and I told him a heated steering wheel was an option when we were talking about the differences between it and the PMC (standard heated steering wheel). The salesman thought the tires on the PMC, as it sat in the showroom, were all-season. It took 30 minutes to convince him, with the help of the Master Mechanic, he was wrong.
Either I'm too much of an Acura enthusiast, simply done a lot of research or there are subtle differences a salesman and mechanic who sell other Acura models don't observe. I've driven a Legend and TL into the ground over the last 30 years. I put $8k into my 2007 TL in the last year in 100K miles maintenance and repairs. The trade in value is $1K. WTF? Arrghh!
March and April, the snowiest months in Colorado, are right around the corner. I need an AWD car now, and one that will be fun to drive in late spring/summer/early fall. While the PMC paint is remarkable in terms of craftsmanship, and a hand-built engine and such are attractive selling points, I don't see the PMC as an advantage in resale. In fact, Edmunds has the RDX PMC, although it's a 2.0 liter turbo, as an overall less attractive car to own financially than the Advanced and base package. Not like I'd sell a new TLX Type S anytime soon, given the way I hold onto reliable vehicles.
So here I am, wondering if I'm reliving 2022 with delays in the standard Type S which is being pushed back by weeks and months for delivery. And there is the Type S PMC in a showroom for two weeks just waiting for someone to take interest. There are also two beautiful NSX's in the same showroom far beyond my budget. Is the Acura TLX Type S PMC worth the extra $10K or so, or should I hold out for the red pearl standard Type S, hoping I'm not going to experience the delays I did in 2022? Thank you for your input.
By the way, neither the Type S or PMC are marked up beyond their MSRP here. Really! The PMC has a number of dealer add-on's (exterior and interior protectants called "The Colorado Package", tinted windows and a few more special attributes). They will also give me all-season tires with the summer tires. Help!
In the fall of 2022, dealerships I had contacted earlier were sending emails about the 2023 model Type S coming back into stock. Keep in mind I was looking at other performance/luxury cars with AWD but, as a science researcher, I examine every nook and cranny, reviews written, KBB, Edmunds, C&D and on and on. At this point, I know more about the TLX Type S than an Acura salesman. Today (2/7/23), I had to tell a salesman and an Acura Master Mechanic what came with a Type S and Type S PMC. The mechanic actually owned a 2022 Type S and I told him a heated steering wheel was an option when we were talking about the differences between it and the PMC (standard heated steering wheel). The salesman thought the tires on the PMC, as it sat in the showroom, were all-season. It took 30 minutes to convince him, with the help of the Master Mechanic, he was wrong.
Either I'm too much of an Acura enthusiast, simply done a lot of research or there are subtle differences a salesman and mechanic who sell other Acura models don't observe. I've driven a Legend and TL into the ground over the last 30 years. I put $8k into my 2007 TL in the last year in 100K miles maintenance and repairs. The trade in value is $1K. WTF? Arrghh!
March and April, the snowiest months in Colorado, are right around the corner. I need an AWD car now, and one that will be fun to drive in late spring/summer/early fall. While the PMC paint is remarkable in terms of craftsmanship, and a hand-built engine and such are attractive selling points, I don't see the PMC as an advantage in resale. In fact, Edmunds has the RDX PMC, although it's a 2.0 liter turbo, as an overall less attractive car to own financially than the Advanced and base package. Not like I'd sell a new TLX Type S anytime soon, given the way I hold onto reliable vehicles.
So here I am, wondering if I'm reliving 2022 with delays in the standard Type S which is being pushed back by weeks and months for delivery. And there is the Type S PMC in a showroom for two weeks just waiting for someone to take interest. There are also two beautiful NSX's in the same showroom far beyond my budget. Is the Acura TLX Type S PMC worth the extra $10K or so, or should I hold out for the red pearl standard Type S, hoping I'm not going to experience the delays I did in 2022? Thank you for your input.
By the way, neither the Type S or PMC are marked up beyond their MSRP here. Really! The PMC has a number of dealer add-on's (exterior and interior protectants called "The Colorado Package", tinted windows and a few more special attributes). They will also give me all-season tires with the summer tires. Help!
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Hi Everyone. I find myself in a convoluted situation. I tried to purchase a 2022 TLX Type S last year. I put the deposit down in Dec 2021 but its arrival in Denver was delayed every month, to the point I thought the dealership was screwing with me. "It'll be here in February." "It'll be here in March." "Sorry, it might be here in April." I hung in there but, by May 2022, I asked for my deposit back. The dealership obliged but I still wanted the Type S. I assumed the delays were due to supply chain issues and I'd wait until those issues were resolved.
In the fall of 2022, dealerships I had contacted earlier were sending emails about the 2023 model Type S coming back into stock. Keep in mind I was looking at other performance/luxury cars with AWD but, as a science researcher, I examine every nook and cranny, reviews written, KBB, Edmunds, C&D and on and on. At this point, I know more about the TLX Type S than an Acura salesman. Today (2/7/23), I had to tell a salesman and an Acura Master Mechanic what came with a Type S and Type S PMC. The mechanic actually owned a 2022 Type S and I told him a heated steering wheel was an option when we were talking about the differences between it and the PMC (standard heated steering wheel). The salesman thought the tires on the PMC, as it sat in the showroom, were all-season. It took 30 minutes to convince him, with the help of the Master Mechanic, he was wrong.
Either I'm too much of an Acura enthusiast, simply done a lot of research or there are subtle differences a salesman and mechanic who sell other Acura models don't observe. I've driven a Legend and TL into the ground over the last 30 years. I put $8k into my 2007 TL in the last year in 100K miles maintenance and repairs. The trade in value is $1K. WTF? Arrghh!
March and April, the snowiest months in Colorado, are right around the corner. I need an AWD car now, and one that will be fun to drive in late spring/summer/early fall. While the PMC paint is remarkable in terms of craftsmanship, and a hand-built engine and such are attractive selling points, I don't see the PMC as an advantage in resale. In fact, Edmunds has the RDX PMC, although it's a 2.0 liter turbo, as an overall less attractive car to own financially than the Advanced and base package. Not like I'd sell a new TLX Type S anytime soon, given the way I hold onto reliable vehicles.
So here I am, wondering if I'm reliving 2022 with delays in the standard Type S which is being pushed back by weeks and months for delivery. And there is the Type S PMC in a showroom for two weeks just waiting for someone to take interest. There are also two beautiful NSX's in the same showroom far beyond my budget. Is the Acura TLX Type S PMC worth the extra $10K or so, or should I hold out for the red pearl standard Type S, hoping I'm not going to experience the delays I did in 2022? Thank you for your input.
By the way, neither the Type S or PMC are marked up beyond their MSRP here. Really! The PMC has a number of dealer add-on's (exterior and interior protectants called "The Colorado Package", tinted windows and a few more special attributes). They will also give me all-season tires with the summer tires. Help!
In the fall of 2022, dealerships I had contacted earlier were sending emails about the 2023 model Type S coming back into stock. Keep in mind I was looking at other performance/luxury cars with AWD but, as a science researcher, I examine every nook and cranny, reviews written, KBB, Edmunds, C&D and on and on. At this point, I know more about the TLX Type S than an Acura salesman. Today (2/7/23), I had to tell a salesman and an Acura Master Mechanic what came with a Type S and Type S PMC. The mechanic actually owned a 2022 Type S and I told him a heated steering wheel was an option when we were talking about the differences between it and the PMC (standard heated steering wheel). The salesman thought the tires on the PMC, as it sat in the showroom, were all-season. It took 30 minutes to convince him, with the help of the Master Mechanic, he was wrong.
Either I'm too much of an Acura enthusiast, simply done a lot of research or there are subtle differences a salesman and mechanic who sell other Acura models don't observe. I've driven a Legend and TL into the ground over the last 30 years. I put $8k into my 2007 TL in the last year in 100K miles maintenance and repairs. The trade in value is $1K. WTF? Arrghh!
March and April, the snowiest months in Colorado, are right around the corner. I need an AWD car now, and one that will be fun to drive in late spring/summer/early fall. While the PMC paint is remarkable in terms of craftsmanship, and a hand-built engine and such are attractive selling points, I don't see the PMC as an advantage in resale. In fact, Edmunds has the RDX PMC, although it's a 2.0 liter turbo, as an overall less attractive car to own financially than the Advanced and base package. Not like I'd sell a new TLX Type S anytime soon, given the way I hold onto reliable vehicles.
So here I am, wondering if I'm reliving 2022 with delays in the standard Type S which is being pushed back by weeks and months for delivery. And there is the Type S PMC in a showroom for two weeks just waiting for someone to take interest. There are also two beautiful NSX's in the same showroom far beyond my budget. Is the Acura TLX Type S PMC worth the extra $10K or so, or should I hold out for the red pearl standard Type S, hoping I'm not going to experience the delays I did in 2022? Thank you for your input.
By the way, neither the Type S or PMC are marked up beyond their MSRP here. Really! The PMC has a number of dealer add-on's (exterior and interior protectants called "The Colorado Package", tinted windows and a few more special attributes). They will also give me all-season tires with the summer tires. Help!
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ELIN (02-08-2023)
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Honda has stated that their production will be 90 percent of what it was previously in 2023. I would wait for the car and color you want-it will come hopefully sooner rather than later in the year. Leasing incentives and other marketing support likely will also filter in at some point-not at the 2020 level, but there nevertheless. No one should pay any ADM at this point as inventory has already begun building for several models.
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Hi Everyone. I find myself in a convoluted situation. I tried to purchase a 2022 TLX Type S last year. I put the deposit down in Dec 2021 but its arrival in Denver was delayed every month, to the point I thought the dealership was screwing with me. "It'll be here in February." "It'll be here in March." "Sorry, it might be here in April." I hung in there but, by May 2022, I asked for my deposit back. The dealership obliged but I still wanted the Type S. I assumed the delays were due to supply chain issues and I'd wait until those issues were resolved.
In the fall of 2022, dealerships I had contacted earlier were sending emails about the 2023 model Type S coming back into stock. Keep in mind I was looking at other performance/luxury cars with AWD but, as a science researcher, I examine every nook and cranny, reviews written, KBB, Edmunds, C&D and on and on. At this point, I know more about the TLX Type S than an Acura salesman. Today (2/7/23), I had to tell a salesman and an Acura Master Mechanic what came with a Type S and Type S PMC. The mechanic actually owned a 2022 Type S and I told him a heated steering wheel was an option when we were talking about the differences between it and the PMC (standard heated steering wheel). The salesman thought the tires on the PMC, as it sat in the showroom, were all-season. It took 30 minutes to convince him, with the help of the Master Mechanic, he was wrong.
Either I'm too much of an Acura enthusiast, simply done a lot of research or there are subtle differences a salesman and mechanic who sell other Acura models don't observe. I've driven a Legend and TL into the ground over the last 30 years. I put $8k into my 2007 TL in the last year in 100K miles maintenance and repairs. The trade in value is $1K. WTF? Arrghh!
March and April, the snowiest months in Colorado, are right around the corner. I need an AWD car now, and one that will be fun to drive in late spring/summer/early fall. While the PMC paint is remarkable in terms of craftsmanship, and a hand-built engine and such are attractive selling points, I don't see the PMC as an advantage in resale. In fact, Edmunds has the RDX PMC, although it's a 2.0 liter turbo, as an overall less attractive car to own financially than the Advanced and base package. Not like I'd sell a new TLX Type S anytime soon, given the way I hold onto reliable vehicles.
So here I am, wondering if I'm reliving 2022 with delays in the standard Type S which is being pushed back by weeks and months for delivery. And there is the Type S PMC in a showroom for two weeks just waiting for someone to take interest. There are also two beautiful NSX's in the same showroom far beyond my budget. Is the Acura TLX Type S PMC worth the extra $10K or so, or should I hold out for the red pearl standard Type S, hoping I'm not going to experience the delays I did in 2022? Thank you for your input.
By the way, neither the Type S or PMC are marked up beyond their MSRP here. Really! The PMC has a number of dealer add-on's (exterior and interior protectants called "The Colorado Package", tinted windows and a few more special attributes). They will also give me all-season tires with the summer tires. Help!
In the fall of 2022, dealerships I had contacted earlier were sending emails about the 2023 model Type S coming back into stock. Keep in mind I was looking at other performance/luxury cars with AWD but, as a science researcher, I examine every nook and cranny, reviews written, KBB, Edmunds, C&D and on and on. At this point, I know more about the TLX Type S than an Acura salesman. Today (2/7/23), I had to tell a salesman and an Acura Master Mechanic what came with a Type S and Type S PMC. The mechanic actually owned a 2022 Type S and I told him a heated steering wheel was an option when we were talking about the differences between it and the PMC (standard heated steering wheel). The salesman thought the tires on the PMC, as it sat in the showroom, were all-season. It took 30 minutes to convince him, with the help of the Master Mechanic, he was wrong.
Either I'm too much of an Acura enthusiast, simply done a lot of research or there are subtle differences a salesman and mechanic who sell other Acura models don't observe. I've driven a Legend and TL into the ground over the last 30 years. I put $8k into my 2007 TL in the last year in 100K miles maintenance and repairs. The trade in value is $1K. WTF? Arrghh!
March and April, the snowiest months in Colorado, are right around the corner. I need an AWD car now, and one that will be fun to drive in late spring/summer/early fall. While the PMC paint is remarkable in terms of craftsmanship, and a hand-built engine and such are attractive selling points, I don't see the PMC as an advantage in resale. In fact, Edmunds has the RDX PMC, although it's a 2.0 liter turbo, as an overall less attractive car to own financially than the Advanced and base package. Not like I'd sell a new TLX Type S anytime soon, given the way I hold onto reliable vehicles.
So here I am, wondering if I'm reliving 2022 with delays in the standard Type S which is being pushed back by weeks and months for delivery. And there is the Type S PMC in a showroom for two weeks just waiting for someone to take interest. There are also two beautiful NSX's in the same showroom far beyond my budget. Is the Acura TLX Type S PMC worth the extra $10K or so, or should I hold out for the red pearl standard Type S, hoping I'm not going to experience the delays I did in 2022? Thank you for your input.
By the way, neither the Type S or PMC are marked up beyond their MSRP here. Really! The PMC has a number of dealer add-on's (exterior and interior protectants called "The Colorado Package", tinted windows and a few more special attributes). They will also give me all-season tires with the summer tires. Help!
Since you live in Colorado, is it fair to say that roads on the whole are heavily salted during winter? Does the special PMC paint make it hardier against corrosive conditions or worse?
I'm not a patient person and like you, I research the hell out of everything. I would have gotten a different car over a year ago!
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Hi Everyone. I find myself in a convoluted situation. I tried to purchase a 2022 TLX Type S last year. I put the deposit down in Dec 2021 but its arrival in Denver was delayed every month, to the point I thought the dealership was screwing with me. "It'll be here in February." "It'll be here in March." "Sorry, it might be here in April." I hung in there but, by May 2022, I asked for my deposit back. The dealership obliged but I still wanted the Type S. I assumed the delays were due to supply chain issues and I'd wait until those issues were resolved.
In the fall of 2022, dealerships I had contacted earlier were sending emails about the 2023 model Type S coming back into stock. Keep in mind I was looking at other performance/luxury cars with AWD but, as a science researcher, I examine every nook and cranny, reviews written, KBB, Edmunds, C&D and on and on. At this point, I know more about the TLX Type S than an Acura salesman. Today (2/7/23), I had to tell a salesman and an Acura Master Mechanic what came with a Type S and Type S PMC. The mechanic actually owned a 2022 Type S and I told him a heated steering wheel was an option when we were talking about the differences between it and the PMC (standard heated steering wheel). The salesman thought the tires on the PMC, as it sat in the showroom, were all-season. It took 30 minutes to convince him, with the help of the Master Mechanic, he was wrong.
Either I'm too much of an Acura enthusiast, simply done a lot of research or there are subtle differences a salesman and mechanic who sell other Acura models don't observe. I've driven a Legend and TL into the ground over the last 30 years. I put $8k into my 2007 TL in the last year in 100K miles maintenance and repairs. The trade in value is $1K. WTF? Arrghh!
March and April, the snowiest months in Colorado, are right around the corner. I need an AWD car now, and one that will be fun to drive in late spring/summer/early fall. While the PMC paint is remarkable in terms of craftsmanship, and a hand-built engine and such are attractive selling points, I don't see the PMC as an advantage in resale. In fact, Edmunds has the RDX PMC, although it's a 2.0 liter turbo, as an overall less attractive car to own financially than the Advanced and base package. Not like I'd sell a new TLX Type S anytime soon, given the way I hold onto reliable vehicles.
So here I am, wondering if I'm reliving 2022 with delays in the standard Type S which is being pushed back by weeks and months for delivery. And there is the Type S PMC in a showroom for two weeks just waiting for someone to take interest. There are also two beautiful NSX's in the same showroom far beyond my budget. Is the Acura TLX Type S PMC worth the extra $10K or so, or should I hold out for the red pearl standard Type S, hoping I'm not going to experience the delays I did in 2022? Thank you for your input.
By the way, neither the Type S or PMC are marked up beyond their MSRP here. Really! The PMC has a number of dealer add-on's (exterior and interior protectants called "The Colorado Package", tinted windows and a few more special attributes). They will also give me all-season tires with the summer tires. Help!
In the fall of 2022, dealerships I had contacted earlier were sending emails about the 2023 model Type S coming back into stock. Keep in mind I was looking at other performance/luxury cars with AWD but, as a science researcher, I examine every nook and cranny, reviews written, KBB, Edmunds, C&D and on and on. At this point, I know more about the TLX Type S than an Acura salesman. Today (2/7/23), I had to tell a salesman and an Acura Master Mechanic what came with a Type S and Type S PMC. The mechanic actually owned a 2022 Type S and I told him a heated steering wheel was an option when we were talking about the differences between it and the PMC (standard heated steering wheel). The salesman thought the tires on the PMC, as it sat in the showroom, were all-season. It took 30 minutes to convince him, with the help of the Master Mechanic, he was wrong.
Either I'm too much of an Acura enthusiast, simply done a lot of research or there are subtle differences a salesman and mechanic who sell other Acura models don't observe. I've driven a Legend and TL into the ground over the last 30 years. I put $8k into my 2007 TL in the last year in 100K miles maintenance and repairs. The trade in value is $1K. WTF? Arrghh!
March and April, the snowiest months in Colorado, are right around the corner. I need an AWD car now, and one that will be fun to drive in late spring/summer/early fall. While the PMC paint is remarkable in terms of craftsmanship, and a hand-built engine and such are attractive selling points, I don't see the PMC as an advantage in resale. In fact, Edmunds has the RDX PMC, although it's a 2.0 liter turbo, as an overall less attractive car to own financially than the Advanced and base package. Not like I'd sell a new TLX Type S anytime soon, given the way I hold onto reliable vehicles.
So here I am, wondering if I'm reliving 2022 with delays in the standard Type S which is being pushed back by weeks and months for delivery. And there is the Type S PMC in a showroom for two weeks just waiting for someone to take interest. There are also two beautiful NSX's in the same showroom far beyond my budget. Is the Acura TLX Type S PMC worth the extra $10K or so, or should I hold out for the red pearl standard Type S, hoping I'm not going to experience the delays I did in 2022? Thank you for your input.
By the way, neither the Type S or PMC are marked up beyond their MSRP here. Really! The PMC has a number of dealer add-on's (exterior and interior protectants called "The Colorado Package", tinted windows and a few more special attributes). They will also give me all-season tires with the summer tires. Help!
My prediction about TYPE S is very positive and it will be remembered as one of the best sedans in the today's market. Next gen, TLX will most likely be a EV and not a V6 Twin scroll with quad exhausts and that handling!
#351
Hi Everyone. I find myself in a convoluted situation. I tried to purchase a 2022 TLX Type S last year. I put the deposit down in Dec 2021 but its arrival in Denver was delayed every month, to the point I thought the dealership was screwing with me. "It'll be here in February." "It'll be here in March." "Sorry, it might be here in April." I hung in there but, by May 2022, I asked for my deposit back. The dealership obliged but I still wanted the Type S. I assumed the delays were due to supply chain issues and I'd wait until those issues were resolved.
In the fall of 2022, dealerships I had contacted earlier were sending emails about the 2023 model Type S coming back into stock. Keep in mind I was looking at other performance/luxury cars with AWD but, as a science researcher, I examine every nook and cranny, reviews written, KBB, Edmunds, C&D and on and on. At this point, I know more about the TLX Type S than an Acura salesman. Today (2/7/23), I had to tell a salesman and an Acura Master Mechanic what came with a Type S and Type S PMC. The mechanic actually owned a 2022 Type S and I told him a heated steering wheel was an option when we were talking about the differences between it and the PMC (standard heated steering wheel). The salesman thought the tires on the PMC, as it sat in the showroom, were all-season. It took 30 minutes to convince him, with the help of the Master Mechanic, he was wrong.
Either I'm too much of an Acura enthusiast, simply done a lot of research or there are subtle differences a salesman and mechanic who sell other Acura models don't observe. I've driven a Legend and TL into the ground over the last 30 years. I put $8k into my 2007 TL in the last year in 100K miles maintenance and repairs. The trade in value is $1K. WTF? Arrghh!
March and April, the snowiest months in Colorado, are right around the corner. I need an AWD car now, and one that will be fun to drive in late spring/summer/early fall. While the PMC paint is remarkable in terms of craftsmanship, and a hand-built engine and such are attractive selling points, I don't see the PMC as an advantage in resale. In fact, Edmunds has the RDX PMC, although it's a 2.0 liter turbo, as an overall less attractive car to own financially than the Advanced and base package. Not like I'd sell a new TLX Type S anytime soon, given the way I hold onto reliable vehicles.
So here I am, wondering if I'm reliving 2022 with delays in the standard Type S which is being pushed back by weeks and months for delivery. And there is the Type S PMC in a showroom for two weeks just waiting for someone to take interest. There are also two beautiful NSX's in the same showroom far beyond my budget. Is the Acura TLX Type S PMC worth the extra $10K or so, or should I hold out for the red pearl standard Type S, hoping I'm not going to experience the delays I did in 2022? Thank you for your input.
By the way, neither the Type S or PMC are marked up beyond their MSRP here. Really! The PMC has a number of dealer add-on's (exterior and interior protectants called "The Colorado Package", tinted windows and a few more special attributes). They will also give me all-season tires with the summer tires. Help!
In the fall of 2022, dealerships I had contacted earlier were sending emails about the 2023 model Type S coming back into stock. Keep in mind I was looking at other performance/luxury cars with AWD but, as a science researcher, I examine every nook and cranny, reviews written, KBB, Edmunds, C&D and on and on. At this point, I know more about the TLX Type S than an Acura salesman. Today (2/7/23), I had to tell a salesman and an Acura Master Mechanic what came with a Type S and Type S PMC. The mechanic actually owned a 2022 Type S and I told him a heated steering wheel was an option when we were talking about the differences between it and the PMC (standard heated steering wheel). The salesman thought the tires on the PMC, as it sat in the showroom, were all-season. It took 30 minutes to convince him, with the help of the Master Mechanic, he was wrong.
Either I'm too much of an Acura enthusiast, simply done a lot of research or there are subtle differences a salesman and mechanic who sell other Acura models don't observe. I've driven a Legend and TL into the ground over the last 30 years. I put $8k into my 2007 TL in the last year in 100K miles maintenance and repairs. The trade in value is $1K. WTF? Arrghh!
March and April, the snowiest months in Colorado, are right around the corner. I need an AWD car now, and one that will be fun to drive in late spring/summer/early fall. While the PMC paint is remarkable in terms of craftsmanship, and a hand-built engine and such are attractive selling points, I don't see the PMC as an advantage in resale. In fact, Edmunds has the RDX PMC, although it's a 2.0 liter turbo, as an overall less attractive car to own financially than the Advanced and base package. Not like I'd sell a new TLX Type S anytime soon, given the way I hold onto reliable vehicles.
So here I am, wondering if I'm reliving 2022 with delays in the standard Type S which is being pushed back by weeks and months for delivery. And there is the Type S PMC in a showroom for two weeks just waiting for someone to take interest. There are also two beautiful NSX's in the same showroom far beyond my budget. Is the Acura TLX Type S PMC worth the extra $10K or so, or should I hold out for the red pearl standard Type S, hoping I'm not going to experience the delays I did in 2022? Thank you for your input.
By the way, neither the Type S or PMC are marked up beyond their MSRP here. Really! The PMC has a number of dealer add-on's (exterior and interior protectants called "The Colorado Package", tinted windows and a few more special attributes). They will also give me all-season tires with the summer tires. Help!
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MarcoTLX (02-08-2023)
#353
AZ Community Team
GVWR is Gross Vehicle Weight Rating and is not the curb weight.
FWIW The Type-S curb weight is 4201lb (according to C&D) which is the standard benchmark for vehicle weights
FWIW The Type-S curb weight is 4201lb (according to C&D) which is the standard benchmark for vehicle weights
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bilirubin (02-15-2023)
#355
Here at service and my dealer has a curva red in their showroom. No adm, no dealer installed accessories on it.
Curva red reminds me of the 90's sports car red, brighter the the reds on most current models.
Curva red reminds me of the 90's sports car red, brighter the the reds on most current models.
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MarcoTLX (02-15-2023)
#359
All pmc runs share the same vin except the last 3 digits match the plaque number. So you can order wheels with the curb weight photo above
Crazy day, but a 130r pmc just got dropped off by a truck today. So the dealer now has two.
Crazy day, but a 130r pmc just got dropped off by a truck today. So the dealer now has two.
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bilirubin (02-16-2023)
#360
Air Vice Marshal
Hi Everyone.
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By the way, neither the Type S or PMC are marked up beyond their MSRP here. Really! The PMC has a number of dealer add-on's (exterior and interior protectants called "The Colorado Package", tinted windows and a few more special attributes). They will also give me all-season tires with the summer tires. Help!
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By the way, neither the Type S or PMC are marked up beyond their MSRP here. Really! The PMC has a number of dealer add-on's (exterior and interior protectants called "The Colorado Package", tinted windows and a few more special attributes). They will also give me all-season tires with the summer tires. Help!
From Acura:
Paint Care- PMC Edition models only
Dust off the vehicle body after you drive. Regularly inspect your vehicle for
scratches on painted surfaces. Scratches on a painted surface may result in
body rust. If you find a scratch, promptly repair it.
Your vehicle's paint requires up to 60 days from the production date to fully
cure. During this time, avoid applying any wax or paint sealant-type products,
as they could hinder the curing process and affect the paint's durability.
You may polish the paint during these 60 days if the polish does not contain
any wax or paint sealant ingredients. Use only clean, high-quality microfiber
towels or pads, as they are a softer material with less change of scratching the
finish. It is absolutely necessary to keep the microfiber towels or pads properly
cleaned and maintained before using on your vehicle.