Last week, Acura dropped the buzz word: EV

Based on the short 8 second video, it looks like it's the concept of a SUV. As we all know, sedan market is not doing well. What will be the future of TLX? Will we get a TLX EV or Acura will be a SUV brand?

Thoughts?
https://acuranews.com/en-US/releases...lectrified-era

 

Pretty cool looking for what's basically a reskinned Lyriq.

 

Do you think Acura will use just the battery or entire platform and just badge it as Acura?

 

I believe they already announced they're using the entire platform. Honda is just way too far behind in EV development to even entertain the idea of not reusing their platform. The exterior styling may be different, and at best they might use a Honda/Acura interior. That said, I doubt it will be stubstantially different given that the Hondas are being built by GM in their Ramos Arizpe plant in Mexico where the Blazer is built, and the Acuras are going to be built in their Spring Hill plant in Tennessee where the Lyriq is going to be built. I think this is purely a stop gap solution to make sure they're still relevant in the current market where everyone offers at least one EV while they race to develop their own EV platforms.

 

https://www.thedrive.com/news/this-i...-gm-collab-suv

According to Acura, the Precision Concept is not a joint Honda/GM development but a Honda/Acura development.


​​​​​​​My guess is there is concurrent development within Honda, the short term joint venture and the long term independent inhouse EV which will be all Honda/Acura with a range of EV platforms which will have various modular approach similar to what Tesla has done.

 

Thank you for sharing the article and clarification.

 

i wouldn’t be surprised if they drop the TLX model entirely just look at the RLX it didn’t even make it to its 2nd generation. Mainly cause sales was never that great from the jump compared to the TLX. Would be cool to see a TLX EV doubt I’d be interested in buying one though

 

I doubt they drop the tlx. There are already some spy shots of the MMC version floating around. Acura definitely failed by not continuing the hybrid line up.

 

For sure in the short term, there will be TLX. they cannot let go the R&D they spent. But more for next gen.

 

It's Honda's own fault for not even trying to put something together. They had the MDX hybrid building blocks, could have taken an engineering approach to merge the 2L Turbo with electric motors. Or at least offer one version with proven V6 + electric motors (NA V6 still present in new MDX). It would have given them 2 years of sales versus waiting for GM to do their homework. Considering they don't have that many models, what's one more TLX/MDX trim offered as advanced with hybrid. Similar to Integra with advanced and manual.

 

That hybrid MDX was not selling because of the more expensive price point. Acura had no issues moving the less expensive non-hybrid models. Not sure if a much more expensive full EV model will sell for Acura. They just hit a wall at certain price points and people go with Germans or Tesla.

I think Genesis will have the same issues. Less expensive Hyundai EV models are very popular and the much more expensive Genesis full EV will not sell. Time will tell.

 

My understanding is that the sport hybrid MDX didn't sell well because they didn't make nearly enough of them. Consider that it was only $1500 more for better performance and better efficiency, and it was an absolute steal over a regular MDX.

 

How long is the factory warranty for the hybrid battery pack ? How much is the replacement cost for the battery pack ?

 

8 year warranty. The reliability of the battery pack is not an issue. Battery degredation for hybrids is a complete boogeyman.

 

Tbh I think Acura did a very poor job marketing it. I was talking to someone about MDX Hybrid and this guy knows about cars but had no clue about the Hybrid version. $155 is nothing...I see a lot of Advance models, so it was not the cost. I think it was either the marketing or people preferred to opt in for a much more reliable and proven technology, which is RX Hybrid.

 

Based on an article by Autonews. We might be seeing Acura hybrids in the near future. Which completely contradicts what Honda/ Acura said a few months ago, but I guess plans change.

The article is behind a pay wall so all the important bits are below.

MDX: “It's likely that it will get a redesign in 2026 that will include a mild hybrid variant… The MDX could transform into an all-electric model in 2027.”
RDX: “It will be up for a redesign in 2027 that could include the addition of a hybrid powertrain that uses the same fourth-generation two-motor hybrid-electric system that will power the sixth-generation Honda CR-V.”
CDX: “There are now murmurings that the CDX could be exported from China to the U.S. by 2025. But it would be replaced by an all-electric entry for its second generation.”
TLX: “The sedan will undergo a minor freshening in early 2023 and is due for a redesign in 2026. The TLX will remain a gasoline-only model as Acura begins to electrify its lineup, but it could appear as an EV after 2030.”
Integra: “An Integra Type S could be revealed at the end of the year. Though it's unclear what role the Integra will play in Acura's electric future, a minor freshening in 2025 may introduce a hybrid powertrain, and the car could become all-electric by the end of the decade.”
NSX: “But it is possible that a new NSX could pop up in 2026 with an all-electric powertrain.

Link to article.

 

I question the credibility of this article. For one thing, the CDX no longer exists anymore; in fact Acura doesn't even exist in China anymore.

 

Autonews have been very reliable when it comes to launch and mid cycle refresh of varies vehicles from different automakers. They are the only car website that is present at NADA Conferences. Plus Acura’s Chinese website is still up and you can reserve cars for test drives.
Link.

 

I don't doubt the credibility of Autonews, but I still doubt the credibility of this article. The author cites no sources to support her claims, which have not been reported or suggsted by any other outlet.

 

As pointed out there was a small increase for the SHAWD version of the MDX but there was little demand for the hybrid version, just like other luxury hybrids had lack of demand compared to the same non-hybrid models they were based on in that time period . That was a weird period since the engineers/designers were finding kludgy ways to incorporate the batteries into vehicles that may not have originally been designed for them. Have a neighbor with a RLX SH-AWD and enjoys driving it, wants to keep as long as possible.

IMO, the EV high end luxury stigma was broken by Tesla followed by Porsche and the other Germans who finally jumped in. The Tesla S proved their was certainly a market if approached from the right way. Tesla's EV drivetrain, battery, power management, S/W, chip and infotainment are still class leading by a large margin.

 

+1 agree the mid-2010's Acura hybrid marketing was poor, I think they had the right concept but they promoted it mostly for the the SH-AWD performance approach.

 

I leased an MDX Hybrid for three years and it was awesome. Too bad they did not carry it over to the 2022 redesign.

 

RDX not due for redesign until 2027???? It was released in 2019 shouldn't it be more like 2024?

 

Looks great! Will we hear more about it or just this 2 min? lol

 

Here you go some pictures: https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/...llery/?slide=3

 

https://acuranews.com/en-US/releases...lectrified-era

 

RE: the MDX hybrid you aren't supposed to tow with it and for an SUV that can have a big impact and 26 MPG isn't super impressive. I still think that it was a neat package, especially the 7 sp tranny, and I wish Acura would have stayed on that course.

 

Omgggg!
ZDX & ZDX TYPE S

https://acuranews.com/en-US/releases...lectrified-era

 

I would think Acura's copy/version of this:

https://topelectricsuv.com/news/hond...-release-date/

There are also some GM versions.

 

So is the Precision EV supposed to preview the ZDX or is it not? These two statements seem to be contradictory without doing some serious mental gymnastics.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/this-i...-gm-collab-suv

https://acuranews.com/en-US/releases...lectrified-era