GhostTL09

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That older pic was an Aspec

GhostTL09

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ITS is at 320hp, maybe we get TLX’S at 375 now. Is 20hp really that crazy?

Tesla1856

Yeah, some tasteful hood-vents maybe. Let the EV's do their thing, but go all-out V6-ice here.

ELIN

Acura did that to keep up w/the CTR, which it will always be compared against. The TLX-S has no such competition within the Honda/Acura family. Honda made sure of that when they killed off the Accord Turbo 2.0 (it was within the conversation of the V6).

I don't expect any bump in V6 HP as they're probably saving that for gen 3 TLX.

Tony Pac

Agreed! i don't see any power bump or changes. ....

However, we may get a few goodies like wireless Apple Carplay, a similar front grill and style like MDX and 360 camera for US market and finally a digital gauges. Can't ask for more.

Tony Pac

Now the biggest mystery is RDX:

1. Teggy - brand new and ITS is coming this June. Done!
2. TLX - we see come minor or major changes are coming. At least it's confirmed. Done!
3. MDX - we saw a few pics with covered up front. Again, we know Acura will update a few things here and there. Done!
4. ZDX and ZDX TYPE S are coming. It's confirmed for 2024. DONE

WHAT ABOUT RDX? We haven't seen or heard anything about it. Acura is cooking something for sure.....RDX and RDX TYPE S. I believe Acura will reveal and discuss it in late 2023 or early 2024. for 2025 model! Thoughts?

dmski

Type S may get the new hood with heat extractor like ITS. They will add all the tech goodies. Possibly a small hp bump. I have the MDX and tbh the digital tach is LAME. Prefer the current set up on the S. However, maybe they can make it more interesting if they do upgrade it. Given the low sales volumes Acura wants to spend as little as possible on the MMC but they will jack the MSRP again.

Tony Pac

I really don't want digital gauges. This is my personal preference and no matter in which car brand. I hate digital gauges. I think the analog is so much better. Now cars are becoming a computer. New MB E class has Zoom camera and Angry Birds...like seriously??? what's next?

sombasol

i had an MDX Loaner a month ago and i agree, i do not like the digital display, i found it difficult to read and just unnatural looking. I think its the lack of depth to it that throws me off

mvl

Acura's leaked roadmap from a couple years back accurately predicted all models through the 24 MY including ITS, but did not have the ZDX.

My thoughts are that Acura had initially planned the ZDX to be the RDX replacement, as the first of their electrification cutover. Seems like there is still a strong market for an RDX, but with no investment announced by Acura in ICE nor Hybrid, it is possible that RDX will remain minimally changed even though due for a next generation in 25.

I hope Acura reconsiders its EV-only roadmap as I'd like to stay with the brand but see no EV in my future for at least 5 years, if they have any change of heart then the 25 RDX would be the first sign (eg: if they relent to the market forces and put in a hybrid or PHEV for a 25 RDX).

MarcoTLX

I agree this 2023 TLX-S of mines is here to stay 😭

I quite like the animations I just want the animations be correspondent to the model the car is such as having a type-s model in the animations if you’re driving a Type-S

Tesla1856

At least you're objective and honest about it.
However, there are various display technologies and software graphics implementations. Some are better than others. Maybe see (in person) what the other Japanese and even Germans are doing now-days?

I also got used to the nice analog cockpit displays in our Acuras and Hondas. I had my doubts, but the digital cockpit displays in our Audis have no glare, are very bright, and have 3D graphics with appropriate shadows. My wife's old 2020 Q5e had these small (strangely shaped) gas and EV-battery gauges on the dash (apart from the main displays). Even in direct sun-light, they looked analog, but they were actually digital.

sonyfever

TikTok, of course.

sonyfever

My bet has always been summer 2024 for 4G RDX. There should be test mules out there soon if not already.
And don't forget the small SUV that should launch this year.

sonyfever

Also, the new grill is edge-less similar to ITS. I wouldn't bet on HP bump, J30AC is still pretty new! I rather bet MMC MDX Advance gets a detuned Type-S engine at 300hp.

DubPK

It's possible the V6 doesn't survive for the 3rd gen TLX. Electrification is coming and this might be the last new consumer V6 we ever see.

ELIN

I know we keep saying ICB engines are on their way out. As of May 2023:

The following electric vehicles qualify for the full $7,500 federal tax credit:

Cadillac Lyriq
Chevrolet Blazer
Chevrolet Bolt & Bolt EUV
Chevrolet Equinox
Chevrolet Silverado
Ford F-150 Lightning (both standard and extended range battery)
Tesla Model 3
Tesla Model Y (both all-wheel and long range drives)

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/electri...x-credit-list/

The reduction in available credits and a possible regime change in the next election could slow down EV adoption considerably! If I'm Acura, I'm not putting all my eggs into the EV basket. Acura is too small a company and won't survive the wrong hedge.

Tony Pac

I agree some cars have better gauges than the others. There is no doubt about it. But in general, digital gauges aren’t something that impress me. As someone who loves cars, nothing beats analog gauges, actual knobs and buttons. All these gimmicks are cool for a month and two then they are nothing but headache. Again, it’s a personal choice. I am the minority for sure and regardless of what I want. Car manufacturers are taking the path of sticking 2 tablets and calling it a day!

Tony Pac

😂

They missed to integrate Slack and Saleforce as well lol! Probably in MMc!

mvl

I don't recall any MMCs changing powertrain in recent memory. So the 4-cyl and V6 engines of the TLX 6th gen are pretty much likely to stay in 2024 just like the twin powertrains that existed the entire 5th gen. It is amazing how marketing can change a simple addition of a turbo for power and efficiency into groundbreaking new achievements in the 6th gen, but I digress...

MMCs usually upgrade technology and tweak body panels, so that would be my bet for a 2024. The tech upgrades can be substantial, so I still expect a Type S Advance to come out, especially if there is a front camera on these spy shots.

DubPK

Wishful thinking, most of the world has electric vehicle mandates by 2030 or 2035 including Japan, the EU, the UK, China, many many many others. It's coming and it's only a few generations away unless the rest of the world changes their mind.

ELIN

There are only a handful states within the US that have agreed to this. I've learned that w/anything environmental-related, mandates tend to be "soft" and constantly delayed from the initial deadline.

DubPK

The United States doesn't matter if the rest of the world keep that mandate. Honda isn't going to mass produce ICE cars just for the United States when their fleet for the rest of the planet has to be electric.

ELIN

Only time will tell who is right.

Tony Pac

Agreed! However, in 2017 Acura introduced MDX Hybrid wishful thinking bit imagine, Acura does the same with TLX! Boom...another 25-30 HP! I am 995 sure it won't happen though! It will be purely some tech upgrades and grill.

bilirubin

does anyone know if switching the rectangular radar plates for the upcoming, cleaner-looking round one would be possible?

mvl

Every other current Acura has the same radar capabilities without the plate, so this should be feasible.

neuronbob

The Type S is a 360 degree camera away from my buying one. I was sniffing around at the Type S at my local dealer in my preferred spec, but I’m going to hold off a few months given these spy shots. I expect I’ll be able to order a 2024 during the summer. Still don’t like the lack of back seat space, but otherwise I know I will enjoy driving the car.

I was thinking about “downgrading” to an ITS, but the loss of features from my RLX is too much, not even air vents for the rear seat passengers…Oh crap, I’m getting old…

Tesla1856

Fairly common and expected features in a Premium-class vehicle.

RDX10

IMO rear vents shouldn't even be an optional thing in 2023. They should come as standard on ALL vehicles irrespective of size or class. Iirc my 07 RDX was the only vehicle I ever owned without rear vents. Even the 07 Santa Fe I had like 15 years ago had rear seat vents built into the B-pillar.

Paul Kim

I was curious about this as I have a reservation for a TLX Type S PMC. I asked my agent about the refresh and all he could tell me was that Acura corporate confirmed the refresh for later this year but no ETA. He couldn't confirm anything that would be included on the refresh either. I feel a little cheated that i'd be purchasing a PMC that costs more yet is an older model within the same year. All I want is Wireless Apple Car Play and possible 360-degree cam.

ELIN

If you are worried about being "cheated", then a PMC is definitely not for you!

Paul Kim

Haha yeah i'll give you that.

Tony Pac

I was at my dealer as well and my contact told me that they don't know anything about the refresh. it will be a 2024 model but he personally doesn't know anything about the features or upgrades. I think PMC is just special without a few upgrades that Acura will integrate. Honestly, the PMC will be remembered for many years to come. The car is very special and if you take care of it, in 5-10 years, people will envy you it stands out in a very crowded market. Even the BMW M3 doesn't have beautiful and unique features as the PMC does.

GhostTL09

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Now that the Integra is out and slated for June delivery, we should start getting some hints on a release end of June. When typically would cars drop for a 2024 model?

Tony Pac

I would say in fall...September to November or very early in the year like Jan Feb.

sonyfever

TLX needs to live longer as nothing on the horizon carries the torch. So my guess is meaningful technology update, for example full MDX infotainment with the 12" screen. On the powertrain side, I personally think 4G RDX is still on track and should carry the updated 2.0T, so TLX MMC might benefit from that and gets the same engine.

mvl

Acura already announced that a TLX MMR is coming in 2023 (probably for the 2024 model year).

ZDX is going on sale in 1Q24 so that quarter's hype-cycle is taken. And ITS took 2Q23.

The rumored small crossover (probably the ADX) and the TLX MMR are the two remaining items to hype this year. My guess is the ADX in 3Q23 for the back-to-college crowd, leaving the TLX MMR in 4Q23.

DubPK

This adapter for wireless carplay has been basically perfect. The only thing I've noticed is sometimes when interacting with my phone like browsing the web in a parking lot the music might get a little glitchy. Not sure if it's an adapter or iPhone glitch. Either way, I highly recommend this one.

Paul Kim

Thanks, I was actually looking into some of these previously before I heard about the possibility of a refresh. I think if a TLX came stock with the Wireless Apple Car play, that would be a defining factor.