iPhone, Android or WP Phone
iPhone, Android or WP Phone
New car is on the way so it must be time to start planning for a new phone that complements the car. Acura has a strong leaning toward IOS, but that does not preclude use of the others. The TLX does not map your smartphone screen to the information screen so there is no specific advantage there.
All phones should pair easily with automatic import of your contact list. Here are the features as I understand them.
iPhone
- SIRI Eyes Free feature allows voice commands to SIRI without continual pressing of the Talk button. It will read incoming text messages, responding to text messages, create new text messages, and perform other SIRI commands
- “aha” internet radio
- Pandora internet radio (US only)
- Song tagging (US models only for some strange reason)
- control and playback of audio recorded on the phone
Android
- allows Talk function to activate Google Now on the phone. Requires each command to be preceded with pressing the Talk button. Can use voice commands to read incoming text messages, respond to text messages, create new text messages, and perform other Google Now commands
- “aha” internet radio
- Pandora internet radio (US only)
- control and playback of audio recorded on the phone
Windows Phone
- allows Talk function to activate Cortana on the phone. Requires each command to be preceded with pressing the Talk button. Can use voice commands to read incoming text messages, respond to text messages, create new text messages, and perform other Cortana commands
- control and playback of audio recorded on the phone
From my limited research it seems that Google Now and Cortana can be configured to respond to the car's Talk button without touching the phone, but this not possible with SIRI itself without SIRI Eyes Free.
It seems that iPhone has a clear advantage in the US, but only slightly better Canada. Windows Phone is just a step behind both with no “aha” or Pandora, but if you were not using those features then it is similar to Android.
The assumptions are that voice quality over bluetooth is comparable and might depend on the quality of the phone itself.
Am I missing anything or have I made any incorrect statements?
All phones should pair easily with automatic import of your contact list. Here are the features as I understand them.
iPhone
- SIRI Eyes Free feature allows voice commands to SIRI without continual pressing of the Talk button. It will read incoming text messages, responding to text messages, create new text messages, and perform other SIRI commands
- “aha” internet radio
- Pandora internet radio (US only)
- Song tagging (US models only for some strange reason)
- control and playback of audio recorded on the phone
Android
- allows Talk function to activate Google Now on the phone. Requires each command to be preceded with pressing the Talk button. Can use voice commands to read incoming text messages, respond to text messages, create new text messages, and perform other Google Now commands
- “aha” internet radio
- Pandora internet radio (US only)
- control and playback of audio recorded on the phone
Windows Phone
- allows Talk function to activate Cortana on the phone. Requires each command to be preceded with pressing the Talk button. Can use voice commands to read incoming text messages, respond to text messages, create new text messages, and perform other Cortana commands
- control and playback of audio recorded on the phone
From my limited research it seems that Google Now and Cortana can be configured to respond to the car's Talk button without touching the phone, but this not possible with SIRI itself without SIRI Eyes Free.
It seems that iPhone has a clear advantage in the US, but only slightly better Canada. Windows Phone is just a step behind both with no “aha” or Pandora, but if you were not using those features then it is similar to Android.
The assumptions are that voice quality over bluetooth is comparable and might depend on the quality of the phone itself.
Am I missing anything or have I made any incorrect statements?
Great post and interesting topic. I think this thread can really serve people well by discussing user's experiences with their phones. Hopefully people will mention the exact phone they have (and OS) and their experiences with it on the new TLX. Thanks!
Yes, this is great and I'd be interested to hear other's experiences. Since they emphasized Siri eyes free so much I figured Android was SOL. But if the talk button can activate Google now, that would be GREAT as you can run all the voice commands through it - directions, nearby places, play music, texts, etc. I'd love to hear from first hand feedback from people that have tried it.
Just picked up my car late last night (non-tech package...first non-tech package I've got in my last 5 cars...I always ended up Google Maps for navigation) and haven't been able to play with everything yet but here are initial thoughts.
I've got an AT&T LG G3 and my wife has an iPhone and I plan on testing the Siri integration.
Pandora seems to work fine via bluetooth (and album art shows).
Bluetooth for music player on phone works (but doesn't show album art).
Bluetooth using Spotify it doesn't change the display (i.e. it just shows what I last played using the music player).
Plugging phone into USB doesn't register as a media device.
Talk button doesn't launch Google Now (I imagine that's just tech package), but no big deal because I enable "OK Google" hotword detection on my phone and will use that mostly for all phone functions.
I've got an AT&T LG G3 and my wife has an iPhone and I plan on testing the Siri integration.
Pandora seems to work fine via bluetooth (and album art shows).
Bluetooth for music player on phone works (but doesn't show album art).
Bluetooth using Spotify it doesn't change the display (i.e. it just shows what I last played using the music player).
Plugging phone into USB doesn't register as a media device.
Talk button doesn't launch Google Now (I imagine that's just tech package), but no big deal because I enable "OK Google" hotword detection on my phone and will use that mostly for all phone functions.
Just picked up my car late last night (non-tech package...first non-tech package I've got in my last 5 cars...I always ended up Google Maps for navigation) and haven't been able to play with everything yet but here are initial thoughts.
I've got an AT&T LG G3 and my wife has an iPhone and I plan on testing the Siri integration.
Pandora seems to work fine via bluetooth (and album art shows).
Bluetooth for music player on phone works (but doesn't show album art).
Bluetooth using Spotify it doesn't change the display (i.e. it just shows what I last played using the music player).
Plugging phone into USB doesn't register as a media device.
Talk button doesn't launch Google Now (I imagine that's just tech package), but no big deal because I enable "OK Google" hotword detection on my phone and will use that mostly for all phone functions.
I've got an AT&T LG G3 and my wife has an iPhone and I plan on testing the Siri integration.
Pandora seems to work fine via bluetooth (and album art shows).
Bluetooth for music player on phone works (but doesn't show album art).
Bluetooth using Spotify it doesn't change the display (i.e. it just shows what I last played using the music player).
Plugging phone into USB doesn't register as a media device.
Talk button doesn't launch Google Now (I imagine that's just tech package), but no big deal because I enable "OK Google" hotword detection on my phone and will use that mostly for all phone functions.
Here are the instructions from a reddit.com post for car setup.
To just press your car's bluetooth/call button and launch Google Now, follow the instructions below
One note on using this. I've found that the lock screen will occasionally be disabled after using this function. I think it happens when you open Google Now but don't complete the command and just exit to the home screen instead. I've only had this happen a couple of times but it's something to watch out for.
To just press your car's bluetooth/call button and launch Google Now, follow the instructions below
- Download an app called Bluetooth Launch.
- Open that app, ignore the terrible UI, and find the dropdown labeled 'Google Search'.
- Under that dropdown, select 'com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox.VoiceSear chActivity'.
- Exit the app.
- Connect to your car's bluetooth.
- Make sure your phone is unlocked, and hold your car's bluetooth/call button to activate Voice Dialing (you might only need to click the button, depends on your car's stereo).
- When prompted, choose to always complete the action with Bluetooth Launch (NOT with Google Search; this will open the near-useless google voice dialer app).
- Google Now should now open, and if you have the option in Google Now checked it will use your car's Bluetooth mic as input.
One note on using this. I've found that the lock screen will occasionally be disabled after using this function. I think it happens when you open Google Now but don't complete the command and just exit to the home screen instead. I've only had this happen a couple of times but it's something to watch out for.
Hmm, didn't realize you could do the long-press of the talk button. When I do that it says "Your smartphone is not supported". Maybe it's just an LG G3 thing.
I tried Quandry's suggestion, but think that since my phone isn't supported it doesn't matter anyway. FYI, that app seems to use my G3's native resolution because the font is so small I literally had to use a magnifying glass I have to read the text.
I tried Quandry's suggestion, but think that since my phone isn't supported it doesn't matter anyway. FYI, that app seems to use my G3's native resolution because the font is so small I literally had to use a magnifying glass I have to read the text.
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Originally Posted by To just press your car's bluetooth/call button and launch Google Now, follow the instructions below [LIST=1
[*]Download an app called Bluetooth Launch.[*]Open that app, ignore the terrible UI, and find the dropdown labeled 'Google Search'.[*]Under that dropdown, select 'com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox.VoiceSear chActivity'.[*]Exit the app.[*]Connect to your car's bluetooth.[*]Make sure your phone is unlocked, and hold your car's bluetooth/call button to activate Voice Dialing (you might only need to click the button, depends on your car's stereo).[*]When prompted, choose to always complete the action with Bluetooth Launch (NOT with Google Search; this will open the near-useless google voice dialer app).[*]Google Now should now open, and if you have the option in Google Now checked it will use your car's Bluetooth mic as input.[/LIST] You should now be able to hold/click your car's bluetooth/call button to launch Google Now at any time.
Hmm, didn't realize you could do the long-press of the talk button. When I do that it says "Your smartphone is not supported". Maybe it's just an LG G3 thing.
I tried Quandry's suggestion, but think that since my phone isn't supported it doesn't matter anyway. FYI, that app seems to use my G3's native resolution because the font is so small I literally had to use a magnifying glass I have to read the text.
I tried Quandry's suggestion, but think that since my phone isn't supported it doesn't matter anyway. FYI, that app seems to use my G3's native resolution because the font is so small I literally had to use a magnifying glass I have to read the text.
I was not aware of an app to enable the [talk] button on the steering wheel, thanks for posting.
Here are the instructions from a reddit.com post for car setup.
To just press your car's bluetooth/call button and launch Google Now, follow the instructions below
One note on using this. I've found that the lock screen will occasionally be disabled after using this function. I think it happens when you open Google Now but don't complete the command and just exit to the home screen instead. I've only had this happen a couple of times but it's something to watch out for.
To just press your car's bluetooth/call button and launch Google Now, follow the instructions below
- Download an app called Bluetooth Launch.
- Open that app, ignore the terrible UI, and find the dropdown labeled 'Google Search'.
- Under that dropdown, select 'com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox.VoiceSear chActivity'.
- Exit the app.
- Connect to your car's bluetooth.
- Make sure your phone is unlocked, and hold your car's bluetooth/call button to activate Voice Dialing (you might only need to click the button, depends on your car's stereo).
- When prompted, choose to always complete the action with Bluetooth Launch (NOT with Google Search; this will open the near-useless google voice dialer app).
- Google Now should now open, and if you have the option in Google Now checked it will use your car's Bluetooth mic as input.
One note on using this. I've found that the lock screen will occasionally be disabled after using this function. I think it happens when you open Google Now but don't complete the command and just exit to the home screen instead. I've only had this happen a couple of times but it's something to watch out for.
By the way no understatement how awful the interface with that app is. The font is so small you need a magnifying glass - or be someone under 20 to read it. this is near microwriting size.
I think also Iam confused by the requirement to connect to your car's bluetooth...I mean do I need to reconnect it in a different way - the car is already paired automatically with the phone when I start it. Maybe I need to go to the originator of this somehow - I know it is a copy paste from all over the place. Maybe I should give up.
The Nexus 5 is an awesome phone - I know several converts from iphones. Even my son, who still loves all things apple. Most iphones 5 or 6 seem not to hook up to texting in Hondas or Acuras. maybe you have to fiddle with the phone somehow but I have never seen it work. whereas with recent androids it works perfectly out the box. Even blackberries do. My better half's ipad is an infuriating thing. Beats me why they are so popular. We all got IPads at work to replace our PCs and hate them with a passion. almost everyone now brings in their own PC laptops to work on....
Siri eyes free is the most awesome facility and I wish the android world could do the same. But lets face it every platform has its pros and cons. Not to mention how expensive the iphone world is and how easily the screens break.
Siri eyes free is the most awesome facility and I wish the android world could do the same. But lets face it every platform has its pros and cons. Not to mention how expensive the iphone world is and how easily the screens break.
Make that ALL iPhones, but we know that going in. Apple does not fully support MAP which is what is protocol used to enable the text message function (currently it will read but not reply). This may be good or bad depending on your POV, but it is consistent and easy to predict. No fiddling required... LOL.
Yeah, I love my iPad Air2 but I don't use it as a PC replacement. Not having a file system is a huge disadvantage to general purpose computing.
My better half's ipad is an infuriating thing. Beats me why they are so popular. We all got IPads at work to replace our PCs and hate them with a passion. almost everyone now brings in their own PC laptops to work on....
Last edited by Colin; Dec 18, 2014 at 02:24 PM.
I've been thinking about swapping my 2007 RDX for a TLX and I'm really hoping that Android Auto and Apple's Carplay make it into this car this year. Anyone know if the current system in the TLX will be upgradeable to either of them? I think I read that the system in some of the current Hyundais will be upgradeable so it'd be nice if Acura did that as well. Both systems are light years ahead of any OEM Nav/entertainment system and should be upgradeable.
I also have a Nexus 5 and it's a pretty impressive phone considering the price I paid and that it's already over a year old.
I also have a Nexus 5 and it's a pretty impressive phone considering the price I paid and that it's already over a year old.
I am pretty sure that that it is upgradeable, but have a pessimistic view that it will be. Upgrading has not been the tradition in the past but maybe this will be the start of a new trend. It would be welcomed.
I know that both Android Auto and Carplay were supposed to be available on cars in 2014 but it appears both have been delayed. I'm hoping that means Acura, like Hyundai, has used a system which can add them with a software update. The fact that Acura has already released an update for the system is promising. Hopefully, there'll be some news out of CES in a couple of weeks.
In any case, anything is better than the stale system in my 2007 RDX!
In any case, anything is better than the stale system in my 2007 RDX!
The lack of credible information out there is frustrating. Apparently, Pioneer has had aftermarket head units with CarPlay for several months now. Despite this, there are several articles out there saying CarPlay has been delayed until 2015: Apple CarPlay release date delayed until at least 2015 | BGR
I think both companies are tweaking their product some more before they officially release it.
I think both companies are tweaking their product some more before they officially release it.
In the auto world, there is an expectation that you buy a finished product. Customers don't want to be a part of the R&D process (look no farther than these forums). Not to mention there are lives at stake, litigation, and federal oversight.
From what I hear, Apples announcement that H/A would incorporate CarPlay caught H/A off guard. I heard that they were in talks, yes, but nothing was signed and no commitment to a timetable set.
I've been thinking about swapping my 2007 RDX for a TLX and I'm really hoping that Android Auto and Apple's Carplay make it into this car this year. Anyone know if the current system in the TLX will be upgradeable to either of them? I think I read that the system in some of the current Hyundais will be upgradeable so it'd be nice if Acura did that as well. Both systems are light years ahead of any OEM Nav/entertainment system and should be upgradeable.
I also have a Nexus 5 and it's a pretty impressive phone considering the price I paid and that it's already over a year old.
I also have a Nexus 5 and it's a pretty impressive phone considering the price I paid and that it's already over a year old.
Also, I don't like this idea of Honda connect with the really old ice cream sandwich os:
Honda brings Android Ice Cream Sandwich to Civic's dash | Android Central
I have an iPhone 5S with the latest operating system, 8.1.2, and cannot get texts and emails displayed on my TLX Advance.
I called Acura in Torrance and they told me that the iPhone and TLX are not compatible with the features of displaying or responding to texts/emails.
This is counter to my TLX sales brochure which specifically indicates these features are available with a comparable iPhone. I have properly synched blue tooth and also can use Siri, but cannot be notified or see texts/emails in my TLX. Is Acura corporate correct that these features are not available via the iPhone? Thanks.
I called Acura in Torrance and they told me that the iPhone and TLX are not compatible with the features of displaying or responding to texts/emails.
This is counter to my TLX sales brochure which specifically indicates these features are available with a comparable iPhone. I have properly synched blue tooth and also can use Siri, but cannot be notified or see texts/emails in my TLX. Is Acura corporate correct that these features are not available via the iPhone? Thanks.
I have an ANCIENT (by today's standards) Nokia Lumia 810 running Windows Phone 8.1. and I have used it in the following cars with no issues
1. 2014 Subaru Forrester
2. 2010 Ford Taurus
3. 2014 RDX
in all the cars voice commands work with the phone. the Forrester and RDX can handle text message display. WP 8.1's Cortana handles all of the phone's voice commands so I do not need the car's ability to do voice dialing, etc
also if you are having issues with your phone, make sure that it is set to allow for remote SIM operation.
the biggest reason I like WP 8.1 is that even with this 2 year old phone, I can use 128GB micro SDXC cards with it thus allowing me to store HUGE amounts of this on this particular phone.
1. 2014 Subaru Forrester
2. 2010 Ford Taurus
3. 2014 RDX
in all the cars voice commands work with the phone. the Forrester and RDX can handle text message display. WP 8.1's Cortana handles all of the phone's voice commands so I do not need the car's ability to do voice dialing, etc
also if you are having issues with your phone, make sure that it is set to allow for remote SIM operation.
the biggest reason I like WP 8.1 is that even with this 2 year old phone, I can use 128GB micro SDXC cards with it thus allowing me to store HUGE amounts of this on this particular phone.
Last edited by YeuEmMaiMai; Jan 3, 2015 at 06:36 AM.
I have an iPhone 5S with the latest operating system, 8.1.2, and cannot get texts and emails displayed on my TLX Advance.
I called Acura in Torrance and they told me that the iPhone and TLX are not compatible with the features of displaying or responding to texts/emails.
This is counter to my TLX sales brochure which specifically indicates these features are available with a comparable iPhone. I have properly synched blue tooth and also can use Siri, but cannot be notified or see texts/emails in my TLX. Is Acura corporate correct that these features are not available via the iPhone? Thanks.
I called Acura in Torrance and they told me that the iPhone and TLX are not compatible with the features of displaying or responding to texts/emails.
This is counter to my TLX sales brochure which specifically indicates these features are available with a comparable iPhone. I have properly synched blue tooth and also can use Siri, but cannot be notified or see texts/emails in my TLX. Is Acura corporate correct that these features are not available via the iPhone? Thanks.
Here is a quote from the "slick" black TLX sales brochure:
"With a compatible iPhone, you can make and receive calls, select and play music, audibly send and receive text messages, access Maps, and get directions - almost everything you can do with Siri on your connected iPhone."
Doesn't this mean the iPhone should be able to display text messages on the TLX Advance?
"With a compatible iPhone, you can make and receive calls, select and play music, audibly send and receive text messages, access Maps, and get directions - almost everything you can do with Siri on your connected iPhone."
Doesn't this mean the iPhone should be able to display text messages on the TLX Advance?
Here is a quote from the "slick" black TLX sales brochure:
"With a compatible iPhone, you can make and receive calls, select and play music, audibly send and receive text messages, access Maps, and get directions - almost everything you can do with Siri on your connected iPhone."
Doesn't this mean the iPhone should be able to display text messages on the TLX Advance?
"With a compatible iPhone, you can make and receive calls, select and play music, audibly send and receive text messages, access Maps, and get directions - almost everything you can do with Siri on your connected iPhone."
Doesn't this mean the iPhone should be able to display text messages on the TLX Advance?
So it is one or the other but cannot be both? Mirroring is probably all I would want.
Also, I don't like this idea of Honda connect with the really old ice cream sandwich os:
Honda brings Android Ice Cream Sandwich to Civic's dash | Android Central
Also, I don't like this idea of Honda connect with the really old ice cream sandwich os:
Honda brings Android Ice Cream Sandwich to Civic's dash | Android Central
I saw that article about the Honda ICS system. So dumb. They better not try that on the Acura side!
It seemed early on that the manufacturers were choosing one or the other but I have a feeling when they finally do come to market, most car manufacturers will offer both. They'd be alienating half their audience if they didn't.
I saw that article about the Honda ICS system. So dumb. They better not try that on the Acura side!
I saw that article about the Honda ICS system. So dumb. They better not try that on the Acura side!
Not much but apparently Android Auto was demonstrated in the TLX at the Chicago Auto Show: Android Auto: The 2015 Chicago Auto Show | Androidheadlines.com
I think the biggest issue at the moment is that it requires 5.0 or later and last I saw, that represents less than 2% of Android devices. Seems like that's starting to change though as the OEMs finally get their bastardized versions out in the wild.
I think the biggest issue at the moment is that it requires 5.0 or later and last I saw, that represents less than 2% of Android devices. Seems like that's starting to change though as the OEMs finally get their bastardized versions out in the wild.
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