Drove a tech in gray with gray leather. The espresso interior is nice but very dark...darker than I had visioned or from the pix

Had a chance to stop by dealer this morning to check out the TLX. Over all i like it. It does look better in person than in the picture. The 9 speeds ZF is so smooth..that it feel slow..my 04 is rough and brutal compare to the tlx..over all nice and quiet ride. Shifts are undetectable. They only let me drive around for 5 mins since I told them i wasnt going to buy today

i think the gearing toward economy/comfort than performance. I didn't experience the lag like everyone but it does feel a little slow off the line like the car doesn't have any power when i give it the same amount of gas pedal compare to my 04 ,you have to give it a little more gas for it to go compare to my 04 TL. I think this is more of a "throttle response" for the lack of better word. Kinda feel like a BMW now. (More gas pedal travel distance vs the 04 TL)--probably did to to save gas--take a couple mins to get used to it but i drive a lot of different cars before so i can adapt quickly.

The base TLX is great as well....it has big 8 inch lcd screen on top too.

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Thanks for the comparison photos. Its missing the gotta have it factor for me compared to the look of 04 Aspec.

 

Nice comparo of 3G and "5G"

 

I think i am going to buy...just because it is a good value and i know it is a good car....but yeah it doesn't look "wow". I still admire my 04 after 10 years...

I think if the car has fog lights and visible exhaust it will look so much better

 

Thanks for sharing. I have an '06 3G. Even now sometimes I look at my car, especially from the side or back, and think, damn, it's still a sharp looking car. But, I like the look of the TLX as well (from pictures), and I'm happy to hear that most of those who have seen it in person think that it looks even better than the pictures.

 

Great comparison photos- much better visualization once the two cars were aligned the same. I didn't realize how much lower the 3g is to most cars today and even the TLX.

 

Very true, it's the same with an Integra and ILX. The difference in the cowl height is huge!

 

That might be the same car I drove yesterday afternoon!

 

I'll take the back-end of the 3G and the front-end of the 5G. I still love my 3G, but its snoot has always annoyed me.

 

Personally I'd go the other way around :P

The 5G back looks really cool especially with the light pipes, could use some more complexity in the lower bumper [like exhaust tips!!] but still like it.

The 3G front I find a bit boring, that's why I want the 5G on there.

 

Wow that puts things in better perspective. What is weird is the TLX looks really huge compared to the TL. Yet in another thread with a comparison with a TSX from the rear, the TLX looks nearly the same size. I've parked my 3GTL next to my buddy's TSX before and it looks similar in size.

It'll just be a matter of time, I'm sure someone will do it, but it will be interesting to see pics of a 3GTL, 4GTL, TSX and TLX all next to each other.

 

If you want low cowl height, sit inside the 1988 to 1991 Honda Civic hatchbacks. They make sitting inside the Integra seem like you're sitting in a bathtub! A low cowl used to be a real Honda signature (which I loved).

However, applying modern thinking, rear-ending an SUV with one of these early Hondas seem like it could be a real death sentence (by decapitation), though

 

 

I've tried to park them the same but it turned out it wasn't (the different is about 1 ft). I had the door and the mirror line up but for some reason the TLX front look closer to me in the pic--i will try to stop by there tomorrow to take some more pic

Most of the newer cars look boated-bigger than the older car for some reason. Even when i park next to the new civic it look visually bigger (vertically). The TLX is definitely fatter than the TL.

The rear seats is just right for me. I am 5'9 and i have the front seats where i am comfortable and still plenty of room in the back

Also forgot to mention my 04 has Koni and Eibach springs with middle perch on the Koni and they been on for over 10 years and according to firestone my car is much lowered than before because I can no longer get on the alignment ramp without ripping off the side molding. (They have to use some 2X4 to create a ramp to ramps (if that make sense)

I meant to check out the leatherette but i forgot--They had about 8 v6 but they are all tech or advance. Only 1 base and the car was in prepping and getting accessories

 

Damn the 3g's ass looks really fat when compared to the 5G. I checked out the 5G yesterday, didn't test drive, but I have to admit, it looks much better in person. The interior is a sure fire upgrade from the 4G which was a big upgrade from the 3G. The sheet metal keep it in the familia with the genetics of the RLX and ILX slathered all over it..The front en of the 3G was never really all that snazzy, I really think the 3G benefited from the 2G not being all that and a bag of chips in the aesthetics department as it's overall looks won out in the end. The 4G may have pushed the futuristic look to far for some especially with the increase in size. Also leaving off the Type-S badging irked a great deal of people.

 

As promised I went back to the dealer today to take the picture. This time I really try to line them up but the front of the 04 TL has a more pointy shape vs the TLX with a square straight across bumper. Therefore even when they line up at the further point the tlx still appear as if it was in front of the TL

The more I see it the more I like it. Definitely something worth upgrading for folks with 3rd generation TLs.


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The TLX overall is probably a better design than the 3G. I've had my 05 TL for 9 years. The one thing I hate about it is the side profile and that front overhang. The TLX looks like a more substantive car next to the 3G from those pictures.

 

Just about the only things I want in a 3G would be the lack of the 1 second lag in the Auto tranny and the current used market price tag. No offense to current or past owners but I really didn't dig its styling. The first gen TSX really looked very nice to me.

In terms of exterior, I definitely like the TLX better though Acura could have lost that beak/shield. I can live with the design but those mods shown in a past discussion (Ron something) made the car looked even better.

 

RonJon

 

It would probably look less substantial next to a 3G Type-S, since they would both have blacked out headlights, chrome lower grille trims, and lower grilles angled forward. Anyone with a Type-S that can take pics next to a TLX?

 

The looks of the 5G just isn't enough to win me over. Then again, I don't buy new. The rear looks nice and reminds me of a lexus, however, the front is just goofy. Im hoping to grab a used M5/6 or C63 for my next car. Thanks for posting pics to compare to the 3g tho!

 

Finally saw the TLX in person...looks much better.

 

I was going to ask the same thing lol. Curious to see how it compares directly to the Type S.

 

Damn, I knew there was something I forgot to do.

 

Agreed. This 1st year entry model just doesn't cut it for me either. No exhaust tips, strut suspension, no stick shift...needs a lot of help. Just a entry lvl lux sedan, no sport. Maybe it'll be better after they do a true sport model (give us a turbo version a la RealTime's car), but until then, I'll keep my 6-spd type S.

 

Saw one at my local dealer and had to stop by for some pics...







First impressions after looking at it for 5 minutes:

-Bigger then I expected
-Interior is much nicer looking then I anticipated
-Acura should have skipped the 4G and went right from 3G to this
-Rear end needs to be more aggressive

I will probably end up buying one once my warranty expires in 12,000 miles. I just hope between now and then they do make some minor changes to the rear with such things as a lower valance of some sort, exhaust tips....basically what everyone has been saying. To me the rear is the only part of the car lacking anything.

Acura did a good job, and hopefully these things sell as well as the new MDX. I think they will.

 

I agree with you about the rear end. I wish it were a bit more aggressive. That, and I wish the car were a bit lower in stance. I also think the car is the perfect size coming from a 3G. I have driven 4G's as a loaner, and they just seemed too big or boaty. They drove well, just something about them seemed "too big".


I saw another white one today at a DFW dealership and that thing is beautiful from the front.

 

So glad to see people posting side by side pics for comparison (I especially like seeing the two in pearl white together). I still think our 3gen's styling holds up well by today's standards. It's funny, it almost seems as if the TLX is what the 4G TL should have been if Acura had not taken a totally different direction. This reminds me of what Honda did with their 4th and 6th generation Accords. The 6th gen looked very much like a continuation of the 4th gen while the 5th gen seemed like an anomaly.

 

Regular 3g tl maybe, but not the type-s. Its racing-inspired instrument cluster is one of the best looking ones, even to this day

 

The TLX looks like the big brother of the 3G TL, you can see the similarities (in the front at least). I love the side by side pics. I'm usually not a fan of white vehicles but the more I look at this white TLX the more i like it. If they make a Type S version i would buy one in a heartbeat

 

Seeing the front end side-by-side makes you wonder what the hell they were doing with the 4g.

 

Every time I look at the fugly beak, I have LOL. What could have been? Acura wanted to create a signature grille like BMW but the design sux big time. It is so sad really. It is something that they could have easily get rid of. Even the reviewers of the TLX talked about the beak. Acura is so toned deaf and arrogant. Sure the new TLX will sell after the 4G fiasco.

 

They can probably improve on that.

I do not particular like Audi's or Lexus IS F-Sport grills but somehow, people's eyes seem not to focus on those.

Must be the color or the placement of those grills.

 

I think if they made the beak black or body color, no one would bat an eye.

 

Audi is German, no one is going to hate on the grille, Lexus gets German treatment opposed to the other Japanese luxury brands. the 4g showed so much inner haterage amongst Acura supposed loyalist it's probably unprecedented. Everyone with a 3G wanted it to continue forever. Lexus changed and folks were like, I don't like the grill but it's a Lexus. The 4G hands down is a better vehicle, but a bump in size and grill sent folks in to a rage, LOL!!

 

Thats oversimplification dont you think? Its not just the size increase, but also the abrupt styling changes instead of a natural evolution. And that is also exacerbated by the fact the 3g was so stylish and beloved; 3g owners were perfectly within reason to dump on the 4g. Oh and dont forget the price increase too; that is also a major reason why customers stay away from the 4g. An ugly, overpriced Acura? No thanks

 

And what's funny is that Acura actually built the 3G evolution in the TLX and people are hating on it because it's not aggressive enough

 

The TL's 180-degree flip-flopping is really indicative of Acura's lack of identity. In up-sizing and up-pricing the 4G, along with the 09-11 beak, Acura signaled that it was almost looking for a whole new target market from the 3G. Now, several years later, Acura flip-flops again and decides that perhaps the original 3G market is worth pursuing and decides to push the 4G TL market towards the RLX. The only problem is that the RLX sold only 200 cars last month in the whole country, which is beyond embarrassing for a mainstream, non-exotic, mass-market vehicle.

This whole time during the life cycle of the 3G to the 5G, Acura is busy competing with itself, while the financial markets tank (in 08 and 09) and recover, and the competition is pushing out new models in well-defined segments.

 

Who defines these "segments"? I think each manufacturer defines where they want to price the car and then see what the competition is doing.

Acura has always had an identity and was bold enough to try new things. It took balls to be so different and aggressive.

It cracks me up when people talk about identity and it's application to a can manufacturer. What is Ford and Chevy's identity? Nisson and Toyota, Subaru..etc.. ?

/endrambling

 

This really seem true to me. The new TLX seems to be better suited to be called a 3.5G rather than 5G. Sure it has a lot of neat features but it is priced down and has a fair amount of TSX DNA. The TLX is a nice car but it is just not more than the 4G. It is a different car - a 3.5G -