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Old May 1, 2014 | 12:43 PM
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TLX Delayed Production and Push to August now

So I just went to my dealership last night and my friend told me that Acura delayed production and push the sale date from June to August.

So I have a problem here. My lease on my 12 TL up in June and I interested on the TLX and was consider leasing that. Since there is a delay, what are my option? I can extended my lease on my current 12 TL which I don't want to do because I will need to pay my registration fee. So is there any other solution where I can negotiate with my dealership between mid June and August?

Advice would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Old May 1, 2014 | 01:13 PM
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Just pay it, they usually refund what you don't use and extend your lease for 6 months. I would say the longer the wait the better as the deals will increase as the model year goes on and you will make much more back in return.
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Old May 1, 2014 | 01:58 PM
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How much the registration fee can be??? $60?

Even if they say the car is coming in August, there is no guarantee that the dealership will have the color combo you want. Just extend the lease. Your options will be much better in December, when end of year sales happen, not just Acura but other brands too.
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Old May 1, 2014 | 02:16 PM
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$300ish

I might need to see if there is a short lease on Acura

Originally Posted by hadokenuh
How much the registration fee can be??? $60?

Even if they say the car is coming in August, there is no guarantee that the dealership will have the color combo you want. Just extend the lease. Your options will be much better in December, when end of year sales happen, not just Acura but other brands too.
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Old May 1, 2014 | 02:26 PM
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Rent a car for two months?
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Old May 1, 2014 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by hadokenuh
How much the registration fee can be??? $60?

Even if they say the car is coming in August, there is no guarantee that the dealership will have the color combo you want. Just extend the lease. Your options will be much better in December, when end of year sales happen, not just Acura but other brands too.
Our registration here is by weight so most cars are in the ~$300 range and SUVs more. Not an insignificant amount. That said, I'd suggest to the OP that he extend the lease. It will give dealers time to get more inventory, and for Acura to settle on some special lease programs for the TLX. However, I don't think that there will be any specials come December other than Season of Reason APR specials. IMO, end of year specials focus on end of the model year, not calender year, and the TLX will just be getting started.
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Old May 1, 2014 | 04:06 PM
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Our registration here is by weight so most cars are in the ~$300 range and SUVs more. Not an insignificant amount. That said, I'd suggest to the OP that he extend the lease. It will give dealers time to get more inventory, and for Acura to settle on some special lease programs for the TLX. However, I don't think that there will be any specials come December other than Season of Reason APR specials. IMO, end of year specials focus on end of the model year, not calender year, and the TLX will just be getting started.
Wow, I didn't know the registration fee in Canada is that high. They screw you on the car price, and price to drive cars

I was thinking about any specials in December other than dealers are more willing to give good deals given end of year/quarter/whatever targets. Plus the TLX inventory will be plenty by then.
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It may be worth extending the lease for a lot longer. Reason: give the TLX a few months (6 to a year) to see if there are any major bugs. Despite their best efforts, there is always something very annoying with first year production. I am looking at the TLX as a potential replacement for my current TL, but not for another year, for the same reason.
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Old May 1, 2014 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by hadokenuh
Wow, I didn't know the registration fee in Canada is that high. They screw you on the car price, and price to drive cars
Oh no, I'm in Hawaii not Canada, but we get screwed here too. Elsewhere we were talking about the cost to charge an electric car. Our electricity costs almost $0.40 per KWh
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Old May 1, 2014 | 09:59 PM
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Agree with others, probably this time next year is when we will see the better deals as they start to clear out for the next year. For reasons others have stated, 6 months is your best bet initially anyway, as it gives more time for all the trims to hit the ground and plenty of inventory to get the color combo and better deal leverage. 3 months may be cutting it too close and force your hand, most try to avoid those situations.

This way, in 6 months you can see where you are at as well as the car, potential issues, and it's deals and you also might have the room to extend again for a third time, last I knew of with Acura and Honda financial, which can help out a lot. Pretty sure they give you two extension periods up to year max total or something like that. Perhaps someone will chime in to confirm that or you can check in with the lease company just it case it varies by lender.

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Old May 1, 2014 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by winstrolvtec
...last I knew of with Acura and Honda financial, which can help out a lot. Pretty sure they give you two extension periods up to year max total or something like that. Perhaps someone will chime in to confirm that or you can check in with the lease company just it case it varies by lender.
This is correct. Up to two extensions for up to 1 year total. Doing a 6 months extension is easy, just tell them. For the second 6 month extension, they'll send you a new contract to sign. Regardless, you are 'month to month' and can quit anytime if you find something else or the TLX comes in.
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Old May 2, 2014 | 05:44 AM
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I know when I had my Infiniti they would do month to month extension for at least a year.
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Old May 2, 2014 | 08:15 AM
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I just renewed the second "6-month" extension on my TL this week so I'm good till November. However it may not be enough time to see significant inventory or discounts on the TLX which I was hoping would be for sale earlier than August. I may either buy my current car out or switch to another brand. In any event, my advice to the OP would also be to extend the lease.
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Old May 2, 2014 | 10:52 AM
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Or maybe I jump into a MDX LOL
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Old May 3, 2014 | 07:53 AM
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Or maybe I jump into a MDX LOL
I test-drove both MDX and RLX a few months ago and must say that the MDX is a nice ride. In fact, I liked it's ride better than the RLX. It wouldn't be a bad choice but they are popular and deals may be hard to get.
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Old May 4, 2014 | 06:23 PM
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OR get a hoopty and save those monthly payments for a down payment / mods :-D
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Old May 4, 2014 | 07:49 PM
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So how accurate is this "August" claim? A week or two ago we found out it would be "late summer", I believe, which could mean as late as September.
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Old May 5, 2014 | 12:22 AM
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I heard from my friend who works at Honda HQ and said TBD or Late Summer....so......I take my bet its gonna be late summer
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Old May 5, 2014 | 02:13 AM
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What I was told a while back.

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A dealership in OC told me est. October 2014. And he has no info on a 6mt version.
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Old May 5, 2014 | 03:43 AM
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While I understand if this delay is needed to fix problems with the car, this additional delay is going to be bad for Acura. One the one hand, fixing problems is good, on the other hand it makes me more leery of 1st year issues with the car. And I think both TSX and TL production has ended, maybe awhile ago even, it is going to be some bad months for Acura sales. They better hope the MDX and RDX can keep them going until Sep / Oct. That is 6 months away. I does not look like there will be a TLX in my near future. And I'll been even more careful about buying this car knowing that there are issues, but not know what they are. In 6 months any excitement left for this car will be just about gone.

I've been helping my wife shop for a new car these last few weeks. She is looking at the new Mini Cooper. Sure not in the same category of the TLX, but boy that is a fun car to drive. I've never driven a Mini before, these have two new small turbos and they can scoot. Especially the Cooper S with the 2.0L. Put a grin on my face. And the way you can configure so many things with the car you can get a lot of value for under $30K. But the dang thing is so small. Plenty big for my wife though. She will get one but we are going to wait or order in Jun for Jul production which will be a 2015 model year. She might find me borrowing the car a bit more than I borrowed her Civic.

Oh, one cool thing, I could make any changes to the nav while the car was driving. It also has an available HUD. Nice, but she isn't going to get either one.

Anyway, looking into the Mini and how they do business and how the cars can be so customized has opened my eyes a bit. The biggest thing Acura has going for them are value. If the TLX is not a value to me, then why buy it?
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Old May 5, 2014 | 07:30 PM
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Rocket_man,


I've said it before, but with Acura's delay(s), I would've been in another vehicle long ago if it hadn't been for the fact every other vehicle I wanted had "something" go wrong or that I didn't like about it after it was released.


If reliability is one of your more important concerns, as your post seems to imply, are you sure you want to be running around in a Mini? I always heard those things had issues with reliability, but I have no first- (or second-) hand experience.
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Old May 5, 2014 | 08:09 PM
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^^ I tend to agree....Mini's are far from being the most reliable brand and I would be extremely cautious going down that road.
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Old May 6, 2014 | 10:19 AM
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Where was it published that the TLX production was delayed? I thought the only official Acura announcement was that it would be manufactured sometime this Summer (which August is).
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Old May 6, 2014 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by graphicguy
Where was it published that the TLX production was delayed? I thought the only official Acura announcement was that it would be manufactured sometime this Summer (which August is).


https://www.autoblog.com/2014/04/22/...aunch-delayed/
It was supposed to be on sale in dealerships by May/June according to various dealers before the above news.
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Old May 6, 2014 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Rocketsfan
Rocket_man,

If reliability is one of your more important concerns, as your post seems to imply, are you sure you want to be running around in a Mini? I always heard those things had issues with reliability, but I have no first- (or second-) hand experience.
Another agree. I have 2nd hand experience that MINIs are unreliable. Lots of fun and lots of options, but you'll get to know your shop mechanic on a first name basis. A co-worker needed an engine rebuild after 30k+ miles. And a family member's MINI had check-engine lights go on and enter limp mode more than once.

The pattern seems to be the more options you add, the more unreliable it gets. And avoid turbo. I've read that a bare bones MT is still a lot of fun.

Rocket_man... best to do some research:

http://www.truedelta.com/Mini-Cooper/reliability-211
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Old May 6, 2014 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Rocketsfan
Rocket_man,


I've said it before, but with Acura's delay(s), I would've been in another vehicle long ago if it hadn't been for the fact every other vehicle I wanted had "something" go wrong or that I didn't like about it after it was released.


If reliability is one of your more important concerns, as your post seems to imply, are you sure you want to be running around in a Mini? I always heard those things had issues with reliability, but I have no first- (or second-) hand experience.
Originally Posted by weather
^^ I tend to agree....Mini's are far from being the most reliable brand and I would be extremely cautious going down that road.
Originally Posted by WheelMcCoy
Another agree. I have 2nd hand experience that MINIs are unreliable. Lots of fun and lots of options, but you'll get to know your shop mechanic on a first name basis. A co-worker needed an engine rebuild after 30k+ miles. And a family member's MINI had check-engine lights go on and enter limp mode more than once.

The pattern seems to be the more options you add, the more unreliable it gets. And avoid turbo. I've read that a bare bones MT is still a lot of fun.

Rocket_man... best to do some research:

http://www.truedelta.com/Mini-Cooper/reliability-211
This one is my wife's call and it seems at this point there is nothing that is going to changer her mind on the Mini. To make things possibly worse, this is an all new Mini based on BMW's new small car platform with two new turbo engines. So maybe I will get to drive her Mini more.... taking it to and from the dealership!

Still I'd have fun doing it!
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Word on my street is that Acura is fixing the beak and the exhaust tips as well as bolting on the prototype body kits.

Here I come TLX! Wahahahah!
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Old May 7, 2014 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by internalaudit
Word on my street is that Acura is fixing the beak and the exhaust tips as well as bolting on the prototype body kits.

Here I come TLX! Wahahahah!
April fools was 5 weeks ago ;-)
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Old May 9, 2014 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by internalaudit
Word on my street is that Acura is fixing the beak and the exhaust tips as well as bolting on the prototype body kits.

Here I come TLX! Wahahahah!
They claimed they fix the beak with the 2012 TL and then they fixed it again with the TLX - its still there and still beaky.
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Old May 10, 2014 | 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by boe_d
They claimed they fix the beak with the 2012 TL and then they fixed it again with the TLX - its still there and still beaky.
In some people's minds anyway. I don't find it offensive, but the 1st 4G TL was pretty bad. I never had a problem with the 2012 model. If it had better trunk room and folding rear seats I'd probably be driving one now.
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I test-drove both MDX and RLX a few months ago and must say that the MDX is a nice ride. In fact, I liked it's ride better than the RLX. It wouldn't be a bad choice but they are popular and deals may be hard to get.
Looks to be a general thing, RLX sales are down for the 6th straight month. The MDX has sold as many as 6,000 more units in a month compared to MDX.

TLX really needs to be a winner to get Acura back into the sedan business.
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just don't re-register your vehicle. :X
I was in this situation back when my lease was expiring on a 07 Accord. I didn't want to renew because some expenses don't transfer so I just ignored it. I think I went about 6 months - longer than I planned but whatever. I took the risk - not advising this but it just may slip your mind... :X
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Old May 17, 2014 | 02:03 AM
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Leaning toward either a MDX or RDX or Ford Explorer Sport............I dunno.....I have 1 month to decide.......
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Old May 26, 2014 | 02:08 PM
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Lots of delays and general weirdness in Hondas/Acuras releases and refreshes.

From what I understand the RLX SH was supposed to be out in the fall of 13, then it was the first quarter of 14 - now apparently they won't even say when it's supposed to be released. They have totally and utterly blown this release as the the Sport Hybrid should have been released first to have the right psychological impact.

Honda Fit release being pushed back due to a new assembly plant. TLX delayed. Gas guzzling Ridgeline still in production but will be taken out for a year before they release the new one which begs the question - Wth hasn't the new one been in development all along?

Honda/Acura almost behave like a company that's too small and stretched too thin to deal with their product portfolio when in fact they are a global juggernaut with access to billions of development dollars, high IQ talent and state of the art facilities etc.
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Originally Posted by Nari
Honda/Acura almost behave like a company that's too small and stretched too thin to deal with their product portfolio when in fact they are a global juggernaut with access to billions of development dollars, high IQ talent and state of the art facilities etc.
I agree it looks like they're stretched too thin. And while they are a large global company, they are also fully independent which is increasingly rare. Could they be the largest manufacturer WITHOUT a major alliance?
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I agree it looks like they're stretched too thin. And while they are a large global company, they are also fully independent which is increasingly rare. Could they be the largest manufacturer WITHOUT a major alliance?
Nor unified electronics. Their navi systems and audio systems are still separate between the Fit/Civic and Accord/Truck platforms. It used to be worse, but just about everyone else has contracted it out to someone else (MyFordTouch... but also uConnect, which is wonderful and in everything from Darts to Ferraris), or unified every computer platform (BMW has done so, Mercedes is just about to finish doing so, Toyota has done so, as well).
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^^ I think the electronics are somewhat unified if grouped by release date. There seem to be three classes of 'smart' interfaces right now. Original interface dial, interface dial + capacitive touch screen, and the newest, interface dial + resistive touch. Don't forget the upcoming CarPlay for Apple that could also unify things across platforms.

When I referred to independence, I was specifically pondering if they are the biggest without an alliance with another manufacturer like Nissan/Renault, Chrysler/Fiat, etc.
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Old May 27, 2014 | 06:53 PM
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The other reason for the delay may be the shortage of train engines to move cars to cities across North America. It appears that all the train business has gone to transport crude oil from the boom in the Bakken oil field in the northern US. Its too expensive to transport all these cars using trucks. A related article from autoblog: http://www.autoblog.com/2014/04/25/f...ipping-delays/ Maybe that adds to the delays, or may be not, who knows...
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Old May 28, 2014 | 12:28 AM
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A couple of possibly indirectly related stories :

Honda Fit delay caused by "assembly difficulties"
http://www.leftlanenews.com/honda-de...in-mexico.html

Chrysler issuing a TSB to re-flash their 9-speed transmission software
http://www.leftlanenews.com/chrysler...uto-again.html

Funny quote from Marchionne in the previous article :
"I'm never satisfied, but I think I'm OK with its application in the current car," Marchionne said. "It will get better six months from now, trust me."
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